Yes it’s true, the 750 takes a sharper and better picture than the 810. I initially did this test with a D600 and a D800e and have repeated it with a D750 and a D810 (both of which I own.)
To take full advantage of the 810’s 36MP, the body needs to be on a very heavy, very stable tripod. Such a 20 pound tripod must be standing on a very stable floor. Any vibration of the floor from foot traffic or outside auto traffic is not permissible. Given that kind of studio environments the 810’s 36MP of pixels will produce a sharper image.
But, what happens when you’re hand holding an 810 vs. a 750? What happens when you’re in the field with a 5 pound tripod? That’s what I was testing because that’s the kind of pics I’m now taking.
After testing with hundreds of field pics, my subjective evaluation, is that the pics from a 750 are equal to or sharper than the same subject taken at the same time with my 810. Why? The pixel pitch of the 810 is so fine that the very slightest of camera body movement blurs the image over several pixels. In the thickness of a single sheet of copy paper the 810’s sensor has about 25 pixels. The movement of just 1/25 of the thickness of a sheet of thin paper puts the image over 2 or 3 pixels instead of one. The larger pixels on the 750 are less likely to be blurred over a couple a couple of pixels with the same amount of body movement for a given exposure.
I’m sure this post will offend some 810 owners who bought a body based upon pixel count but, rest assured the 810 beats the 750 in a very stable studio environment. Just make sure that there are no earth quake tremors while you’re shooting.
Gene51
Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
ah, have you downsampled the images from the 810 to the same resolution as the D750? you might be in for a surprise.
Hand held D810 with a Nikkor 200-500 by my wife...who is 66 years young
From someone that never post photos, we just what, spread the rumor. Welcome to Ugly Hedgehog, you should fit right in..........
i'm 75, shakey and handhold my 810 up to 200mm.
it does just fine.
crank the shutter up to 1/1000 and let the good times roll.
Bologna — and that's all I have to say about that.
bdk
Loc: Sanibel Fl.
interesting , I dont think its accurate, maybe in your situation but not for most of us.
Dan De Lion wrote:
Yes it’s true, the 750 takes a sharper and better picture than the 810. I initially did this test with a D600 and a D800e and have repeated it with a D750 and a D810 (both of which I own.)
To take full advantage of the 810’s 36MP, the body needs to be on a very heavy, very stable tripod. Such a 20 pound tripod must be standing on a very stable floor. Any vibration of the floor from foot traffic or outside auto traffic is not permissible. Given that kind of studio environments the 810’s 36MP of pixels will produce a sharper image.
But, what happens when you’re hand holding an 810 vs. a 750? What happens when you’re in the field with a 5 pound tripod? That’s what I was testing because that’s the kind of pics I’m now taking.
After testing with hundreds of field pics, my subjective evaluation, is that the pics from a 750 are equal to or sharper than the same subject taken at the same time with my 810. Why? The pixel pitch of the 810 is so fine that the very slightest of camera body movement blurs the image over several pixels. In the thickness of a single sheet of copy paper the 810’s sensor has about 25 pixels. The movement of just 1/25 of the thickness of a sheet of thin paper puts the image over 2 or 3 pixels instead of one. The larger pixels on the 750 are less likely to be blurred over a couple a couple of pixels with the same amount of body movement for a given exposure.
I’m sure this post will offend some 810 owners who bought a body based upon pixel count but, rest assured the 810 beats the 750 in a very stable studio environment. Just make sure that there are no earth quake tremors while you’re shooting.
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Hi,
On a course run by a professional photographer specifically for the D810 he showed us "targets" he had shot hand held, compared with when using a tripod. The improvement using the tripod was really surprising . How this translates into everyday hand held images I do not know but suspect that you may have hit on a basic truth here.
Hi,
Forgot to mention that, referring to my last post , the professional did say that at high shutter speeds there would be no problem but did say that possibly a 1/1000 on a D750 may need to be 1/2000 on a D810. He did not and could not make a definitive statement but wanted us to consider the principle . It does make sense that at low shutter speeds the lower pixel count is going to be easier to get sharp photos. However , I suppose that in practical terms it depends how much you are pixel peaking.
ggttc wrote:
Hand held D810 with a Nikkor 200-500 by my wife...who is 66 years young
That first bird photo is all I need to know about the "lack"? of sharpness of the hand held Nikon D810.
Dan De Lion wrote:
Yes it’s true, the 750 takes a sharper and better picture than the 810. I initially did this test with a D600 and a D800e and have repeated it with a D750 and a D810 (both of which I own.)
To take full advantage of the 810’s 36MP, the body needs to be on a very heavy, very stable tripod. Such a 20 pound tripod must be standing on a very stable floor. Any vibration of the floor from foot traffic or outside auto traffic is not permissible. Given that kind of studio environments the 810’s 36MP of pixels will produce a sharper image.
But, what happens when you’re hand holding an 810 vs. a 750? What happens when you’re in the field with a 5 pound tripod? That’s what I was testing because that’s the kind of pics I’m now taking.
After testing with hundreds of field pics, my subjective evaluation, is that the pics from a 750 are equal to or sharper than the same subject taken at the same time with my 810. Why? The pixel pitch of the 810 is so fine that the very slightest of camera body movement blurs the image over several pixels. In the thickness of a single sheet of copy paper the 810’s sensor has about 25 pixels. The movement of just 1/25 of the thickness of a sheet of thin paper puts the image over 2 or 3 pixels instead of one. The larger pixels on the 750 are less likely to be blurred over a couple a couple of pixels with the same amount of body movement for a given exposure.
I’m sure this post will offend some 810 owners who bought a body based upon pixel count but, rest assured the 810 beats the 750 in a very stable studio environment. Just make sure that there are no earth quake tremors while you’re shooting.
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I keep hearing this but it's a complete nonsense. Camera shake will degrade detail in any image, the degradation is a direct result of the shake and nothing to do with pixel pitch. In the unlikely event that the degree of camera shake were exactly the same in the images from the D750 and D810, the image from the D810 may possibly be degraded down to the level of the D750 but it will never be worse. In other words the camera shake affecting the D810 may obscure the fine detail that the D750 is incapable of resolving but any shake beyond that will affect both images equally.
Hi,
Thats really interesting , trouble is that people like me get information that we dont really understand and then really on that info.
I use a D810 mostly hand held and just make an effort to keep the shutter speed up because of "fear" . It would really be nice to see documented tests .
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
Dan De Lion wrote:
Yes it’s true, the 750 takes a sharper and better picture than the 810. I initially did this test with a D600 and a D800e and have repeated it with a D750 and a D810 (both of which I own.)
To take full advantage of the 810’s 36MP, the body needs to be on a very heavy, very stable tripod. Such a 20 pound tripod must be standing on a very stable floor. Any vibration of the floor from foot traffic or outside auto traffic is not permissible. Given that kind of studio environments the 810’s 36MP of pixels will produce a sharper image.
But, what happens when you’re hand holding an 810 vs. a 750? What happens when you’re in the field with a 5 pound tripod? That’s what I was testing because that’s the kind of pics I’m now taking.
After testing with hundreds of field pics, my subjective evaluation, is that the pics from a 750 are equal to or sharper than the same subject taken at the same time with my 810. Why? The pixel pitch of the 810 is so fine that the very slightest of camera body movement blurs the image over several pixels. In the thickness of a single sheet of copy paper the 810’s sensor has about 25 pixels. The movement of just 1/25 of the thickness of a sheet of thin paper puts the image over 2 or 3 pixels instead of one. The larger pixels on the 750 are less likely to be blurred over a couple a couple of pixels with the same amount of body movement for a given exposure.
I’m sure this post will offend some 810 owners who bought a body based upon pixel count but, rest assured the 810 beats the 750 in a very stable studio environment. Just make sure that there are no earth quake tremors while you’re shooting.
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I am sure Nikon would be interested in your unscientific, undocumented, yet extremely opinionated results. You should notify them, really.
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