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Aug 31, 2016 00:51:36   #
machia Loc: NJ
 
CAOS sensor exploits extreme dynamic range of existing CCD and CMOS sensors .
So in my opinion the Canon - Nikon wars are ridiculous . First it was megapixels , now wifi etc etc etc .
It should be all about the image , and not image differences that are subtle .
If this new technology is this good , than we all hold in our hands obsolete cameras ?
Canon and Nikon might be laughing all the way to the bank ?
Give me my 25 and 64 ASA Kodachrome back ! LOL
Slides that came out of my old SRT-101 rival anything I've seen today .
And that's a fact .
So my point is , digital is great too , but don't get caught up in the upgrade wars between the big two . Total waste of money in my opinion .

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Aug 31, 2016 00:56:53   #
machia Loc: NJ
 
machia wrote:
CAOS sensor exploits extreme dynamic range of existing CCD and CMOS sensors .
So in my opinion the Canon - Nikon wars are ridiculous . First it was megapixels , now wifi etc etc etc .
It should be all about the image , and not image differences that are subtle .
If this new technology is this good , than we all hold in our hands obsolete cameras ?
Canon and Nikon might be laughing all the way to the bank ?
Give me my 25 and 64 ASA Kodachrome back ! LOL
Slides that came out of my old SRT-101 rival anything I've seen today .
And that's a fact .
So my point is , digital is great too , but don't get caught up in the upgrade wars between the big two . Total waste of money in my opinion .
CAOS sensor exploits extreme dynamic range of exis... (show quote)

The CAOS promises to extract unseen images ! LOL
Wait until this hits the market !
Everyone will empty their pockets for it , and for what ?

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Aug 31, 2016 03:52:23   #
Leicaflex Loc: Cymru
 
I am with you on the Kodachrome 25, it was a cracking film.

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Sep 1, 2016 06:32:57   #
Jackdoor Loc: Huddersfield, Yorkshire.
 
Not my field, but looks as though at best it will be an incremental improvement rather than a game-changer. Where's Rongnongo when you need him?

http://www.jeos.org/index.php/jeos_rp/article/viewFile/15021/1367

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Sep 1, 2016 07:50:46   #
Carl D Loc: Albemarle, NC.
 
The way I see it, digital is striving to have what film has but never will get.

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Sep 1, 2016 11:33:00   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
At the moment, it looks like it exists on paper. Perhaps a cobbled together lab experiment at best. As with photography throughout its history, improvements have been, and will continue to be made. I won't hold my breath waiting for any mentioned pipe dreams. I'll wait until they are in production, and preferably in FX format.
--Bob


machia wrote:
CAOS sensor exploits extreme dynamic range of existing CCD and CMOS sensors .
So in my opinion the Canon - Nikon wars are ridiculous . First it was megapixels , now wifi etc etc etc .
It should be all about the image , and not image differences that are subtle .
If this new technology is this good , than we all hold in our hands obsolete cameras ?
Canon and Nikon might be laughing all the way to the bank ?
Give me my 25 and 64 ASA Kodachrome back ! LOL
Slides that came out of my old SRT-101 rival anything I've seen today .
And that's a fact .
So my point is , digital is great too , but don't get caught up in the upgrade wars between the big two . Total waste of money in my opinion .
CAOS sensor exploits extreme dynamic range of exis... (show quote)

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Sep 1, 2016 12:23:30   #
machia Loc: NJ
 
Carl D wrote:
The way I see it, digital is striving to have what film has but never will get.

To my eye , a good low ASA film like the old Kodachrome 25 and 64 had a depth and tonality that I don't see in digital . Digital can produce some beautiful and striking images , but something is missing . Just my opinion .

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Sep 1, 2016 13:08:34   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Carl D wrote:
The way I see it, digital is striving to have what film has but never will get.


Digital has exceeded the capabilities of film for some time, now. It's why Kodak disintegrated into a shadow of its former incarnation. (They invented many of the digital technologies, but could not figure out how to market them!)

It isn't just about absolute image quality... It's about practical usability of the image. Although... these days, most new full frame, APS-C, and m43 digital cameras exceed or rival what I did with films before 2005.

The biggest reasons most people stay with film are cost, learning curves, and fear. A generation of pros and their labs left the business over the last 15 years, because they couldn't or wouldn't make the transition.

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Sep 1, 2016 13:33:24   #
machia Loc: NJ
 
burkphoto wrote:
Digital has exceeded the capabilities of film for some time, now. It's why Kodak disintegrated into a shadow of its former incarnation. (They invented many of the digital technologies, but could not figure out how to market them!)

It isn't just about absolute image quality... It's about practical usability of the image. Although... these days, most new full frame, APS-C, and m43 digital cameras exceed or rival what I did with films before 2005.

The biggest reasons most people stay with film are cost, learning curves, and fear. A generation of pros and their labs left the business over the last 15 years, because they couldn't or wouldn't make the transition.
Digital has exceeded the capabilities of film for ... (show quote)

Yes , I fully understand and appreciate the convenience of digital . But my personal preference is film . Subsequently I shoot both .

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Sep 1, 2016 13:45:14   #
Carl D Loc: Albemarle, NC.
 
I disagree Bob. Digital will never achieve the look of film, especially when you get to 4x5 negatives. As far as learning curves go, I think the film shooters have to know more than digital shooters by the fact we have to know how certain settings are going to effect the shot until after its developed. Digital shooters can get instant gratification and correct the problem right there, which tells me that they don't even have to be close and then get a "do over". What kind of skill is that? I have no fear of digital, I own two Sony's. As far as Kodak is concerned, they went down due to their own infighting in the board room and certain family members. I got that straight from the horses mouth, a relative of mine who was very high up the Kodak corporate ladder.

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Sep 1, 2016 14:17:32   #
machia Loc: NJ
 
Carl D wrote:
I disagree Bob. Digital will never achieve the look of film, especially when you get to 4x5 negatives. As far as learning curves go, I think the film shooters have to know more than digital shooters by the fact we have to know how certain settings are going to effect the shot until after its developed. Digital shooters can get instant gratification and correct the problem right there, which tells me that they don't even have to be close and then get a "do over". What kind of skill is that? I have no fear of digital, I own two Sony's. As far as Kodak is concerned, they went down due to their own infighting in the board room and certain family members. I got that straight from the horses mouth, a relative of mine who was very high up the Kodak corporate ladder.
I disagree Bob. Digital will never achieve the loo... (show quote)

Being that the Kodak R&D invented the digital camera , they should be the camera mega giant now . I heard that it was its CEO at the time who sat on the technology because they had so much invested in film .
As far as digital , it's convenient , but while post production , live view , etc etc etc are all nice tools , the gratification that you get when looking at an imagine created by your eye is really something , because it is true art .

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Sep 1, 2016 14:36:05   #
Erik_H Loc: Denham Springs, Louisiana
 
I am perfectly content with the IQ I'm getting with my current digital cameras. I don't see a new sensor tech improving it enough to warrant spending what I'm sure will be a lot of money on
All that aside, lately I'm shooting more with my FT2 and FE than my digital bodies anyway.

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Sep 1, 2016 15:04:00   #
Reinaldokool Loc: San Rafael, CA
 
machia wrote:
CAOS sensor exploits extreme dynamic range of existing CCD and CMOS sensors .
So in my opinion the Canon - Nikon wars are ridiculous . First it was megapixels , now wifi etc etc etc .
It should be all about the image , and not image differences that are subtle .
If this new technology is this good , than we all hold in our hands obsolete cameras ?
Canon and Nikon might be laughing all the way to the bank ?
Give me my 25 and 64 ASA Kodachrome back ! LOL
Slides that came out of my old SRT-101 rival anything I've seen today .
And that's a fact .
So my point is , digital is great too , but don't get caught up in the upgrade wars between the big two . Total waste of money in my opinion .
CAOS sensor exploits extreme dynamic range of exis... (show quote)


Isn't CAOS, the Evil Empire???

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Sep 1, 2016 15:11:19   #
Kuzano
 
machia wrote:

Canon and Nikon might be laughing all the way to the bank ?


MIGHT??

MIGHT???

You can bet your sweet ASS, they are. We are a captive market and totally clueless. We don't read the manuals and we definitely don't learn the features of our camera's when they come knocking on the door with their new "revolutionary" technology.

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Sep 1, 2016 16:32:33   #
n3eg Loc: West coast USA
 
Kuzano wrote:
MIGHT??

MIGHT???

You can bet your sweet ASS, they are. We are a captive market and totally clueless. We don't read the manuals...


You can bet your sweet ASA, they are.

A few of my old Kodak digital cameras shoot ISO 50. One of my m43 cameras goes down to 125 and the other two only to 200. It only bothers me when I'm trying to use that 50mm Super Takumar at f/1.4.

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