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Aug 23, 2016 09:33:51   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
No other candidate-in recent times-Has had as many reasons to be excluded from running for office than Hillary. No matter if she was prosecuted or even questioned by a congressional committee, these facts alone woud have disqualified anyone from running for office. Whether or not you are a Clinton supporter you must ask yourself- Why is she immune. I have no answer for this question. The FBI director intimated that if she were a private citizen (which she is) she would not be granted a security clearence- Why is she immune? It has nothing to do with the office she is running for, if she was running for mayor of a local county she would be disqualified, Why is she immune? With all the evidence in her background- why is she immune. Anyone else, ANYONE else if her name were anything other than Clinton Which is not a requireent for office would be disqualified- Why is she immune? WHY IS SHE IMMUNE? Any number of candidates have been excluded for much lesser considerations. So I ask for the final time WHY IS SHE IMMUNE?

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Aug 23, 2016 09:38:11   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
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boberic wrote:
No other candidate-in recent times-Has had as many reasons to be excluded from running for office than Hillary. No matter if she was prosecuted or even questioned by a congressional committee, these facts alone woud have disqualified anyone from running for office. Whether or not you are a Clinton supporter you must ask yourself- Why is she immune. I have no answer for this question. The FBI director intimated that if she were a private citizen (which she is) she would not be granted a security clearence- Why is she immune? It has nothing to do with the office she is running for, if she was running for mayor of a local county she would be disqualified, Why is she immune? With all the evidence in her background- why is she immune. Anyone else, ANYONE else if her name were anything other than Clinton Which is not a requireent for office would be disqualified- Why is she immune? WHY IS SHE IMMUNE? Any number of candidates have been excluded for much lesser considerations. So I ask for the final time WHY IS SHE IMMUNE?
No other candidate-in recent times-Has had as many... (show quote)

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Aug 23, 2016 09:49:20   #
tradio Loc: Oxford, Ohio
 
It's the mentality of people that will vote for her because she is a woman. Maybe it's people who refuse to vote for Trump. Maybe it's because anyone who comes close to bringing down the house is found in a park with a staged suicide. It's the biggest crime family since Tony Soprano's gang.

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Aug 23, 2016 09:52:20   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
boberic wrote:
No other candidate-in recent times-Has had as many reasons to be excluded from running for office than Hillary. No matter if she was prosecuted or even questioned by a congressional committee, these facts alone woud have disqualified anyone from running for office. Whether or not you are a Clinton supporter you must ask yourself- Why is she immune. I have no answer for this question. The FBI director intimated that if she were a private citizen (which she is) she would not be granted a security clearence- Why is she immune? It has nothing to do with the office she is running for, if she was running for mayor of a local county she would be disqualified, Why is she immune? With all the evidence in her background- why is she immune. Anyone else, ANYONE else if her name were anything other than Clinton Which is not a requireent for office would be disqualified- Why is she immune? WHY IS SHE IMMUNE? Any number of candidates have been excluded for much lesser considerations. So I ask for the final time WHY IS SHE IMMUNE?
No other candidate-in recent times-Has had as many... (show quote)


Got your panties in a bunch over this one, don't ya?
1. Being questioned or even convicted of a crime does not preclude someone from running for President.
2. If she were a private citizen she would not have been given top secret clearance because she would not have had a "need to know". If you understood that one phrase, it would all be much clearer for you.
3. Finally, she isn't immune. It's just that nothing has been proven. Sort of like your hero Donny. He's been accused of running an escort service, defrauding students at Trump University and cheating on his taxes just to name a few. We know he's a racist, a misogynist and all around cheat when it comes to paying contractors for the work they performed. But alas, he has not been convicted.
So to turn your phrase. Why is he immune?

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Aug 23, 2016 10:06:04   #
nakkh Loc: San Mateo, Ca
 
"Has had as many made up / fake reasons to be excluded from running for office than Hillary"

-FTFY
you're welcome
boberic wrote:
No other candidate-in recent times-Has had as many reasons to be excluded from running for office than Hillary. No matter if she was prosecuted or even questioned by a congressional committee, these facts alone woud have disqualified anyone from running for office. Whether or not you are a Clinton supporter you must ask yourself- Why is she immune. I have no answer for this question. The FBI director intimated that if she were a private citizen (which she is) she would not be granted a security clearence- Why is she immune? It has nothing to do with the office she is running for, if she was running for mayor of a local county she would be disqualified, Why is she immune? With all the evidence in her background- why is she immune. Anyone else, ANYONE else if her name were anything other than Clinton Which is not a requireent for office would be disqualified- Why is she immune? WHY IS SHE IMMUNE? Any number of candidates have been excluded for much lesser considerations. So I ask for the final time WHY IS SHE IMMUNE?
No other candidate-in recent times-Has had as many... (show quote)

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Aug 23, 2016 10:08:19   #
nakkh Loc: San Mateo, Ca
 
Frank T wrote:
Got your panties in a bunch over this one, don't ya?
1. Being questioned or even convicted of a crime does not preclude someone from running for President.
2. If she were a private citizen she would not have been given top secret clearance because she would not have had a "need to know". If you understood that one phrase, it would all be much clearer for you.
3. Finally, she isn't immune. It's just that nothing has been proven. Sort of like your hero Donny. He's been accused of running an escort service, defrauding students at Trump University and cheating on his taxes just to name a few. We know he's a racist, a misogynist and all around cheat when it comes to paying contractors for the work they performed. But alas, he has not been convicted.
So to turn your phrase. Why is he immune?
Got your panties in a bunch over this one, don't y... (show quote)


Don't forget about the secret donations to NAMBLA...
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Aug 23, 2016 10:23:50   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Frank T wrote:
Got your panties in a bunch over this one, don't ya?
1. Being questioned or even convicted of a crime does not preclude someone from running for President.
2. If she were a private citizen she would not have been given top secret clearance because she would not have had a "need to know". If you understood that one phrase, it would all be much clearer for you.
3. Finally, she isn't immune. It's just that nothing has been proven. Sort of like your hero Donny. He's been accused of running an escort service, defrauding students at Trump University and cheating on his taxes just to name a few. We know he's a racist, a misogynist and all around cheat when it comes to paying contractors for the work they performed. But alas, he has not been convicted.
So to turn your phrase. Why is he immune?
Got your panties in a bunch over this one, don't y... (show quote)


Actually we DON'T know all of these things about Trump. All we KNOW is that since he started running for the office of President, Liberals have SAID he he is a racist, misogynist, cheated on his taxes, defrauded students etc. There is no proof of any of that happening. Other people close to him, women, Hispanics, black people, students and so on give a totally different picture of Donald Trump than Liberals do.

It is the same political BS as when Harry Reid told people that Mitt Romney hasn't paid his taxes for 10 years. There was absolutely no proof but reporters and Liberals jumped on the chance to smear Romney and it worked for the unethical Obama. Of course Romney had paid his taxes but that made no difference once Harry Reid made the statement.

In reality, while is being sued in court, it is a civil matter. Some of his students have complained about the courses they paid to take. Other students have commended the Trump University and said it was money well spent. When you are a Billionaire it is only standard fare that people will file law suits because you have deep pockets. In a report I heard on television statistics were shown that while Trump has been sued in court numerous times, he has also won the majority of times. Many big money organizations are sued and pay out money just to make the suit go away. NYC for example might be sued for someone falling over a crack in a sidewalk. Rather than go to court the city offers a payment of $5000.00 and the person takes the money. Rather than pay out the nose for these suits Trump will fight them and usually win. Why don't Liberals report these things as they happen?

As for Hillary being immune, Liberals and Hillary can tell us all the time that she didn't send classified emails, didn't delete anything but personal emails from her server etc. but that has all been proven to be a lie by FBI Director, James Comey. Yet Hillary STILL lies saying Comey made a mistake, and so on and on and on. She sticks to her story when logical people would finally admit, yes, she was a liar.

Even though she was not prosecuted most people would have to admit that Hillary isn't fit to be in the Presidential office simply because it has been proven by the FBI that she is not capable of handling Top Secret information in a secure manner. If applying for a security job today in the Federal government she would not be hired because she would not be given a security clearance. Yet Liberals will vote for her to be our President, the one person who knows the most secure of Top Secret information.

Some of Hillary and Bill's problems might be chalked up to the, Vast Right Wing Conspiracy, as Hillary called it. But certainly not 40 or so years worth of problems. Surely anybody taking an honest look at both Clintons would admit that something is not right here.

Dennis

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Aug 23, 2016 10:33:13   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Oh let's see. The Trump organization was sued successfully for racial discrimination in that they refused to rent/sell apartments to African Americans. That might be because he's a racist? .
A judge just recently stated that Trump University engaged in behaviors designed to defraud people. Oh yeah, that was the American judge with a Mexican name who Trump said couldn't be fair because he was a Latino. That might be because he's a racist.
So here's a plan. Instead of regurgitating this Hillary email bullshitathon, why not look at the real issues that they'll be dealing with as President. Let's see a debate about the issues and about policies. I know that puts Donny at a disadvantage because he doesn't know policies, foreign relations or economics. But what the hell, with some Nachos and Beer it might be a fun evening.

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Aug 23, 2016 10:43:00   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Yuh gotta stay 2 inches from the line. Lol

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Aug 23, 2016 11:32:50   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Frank T wrote:
Got your panties in a bunch over this one, don't ya?
1. Being questioned or even convicted of a crime does not preclude someone from running for President.
2. If she were a private citizen she would not have been given top secret clearance because she would not have had a "need to know". If you understood that one phrase, it would all be much clearer for you.
3. Finally, she isn't immune. It's just that nothing has been proven. Sort of like your hero Donny. He's been accused of running an escort service, defrauding students at Trump University and cheating on his taxes just to name a few. We know he's a racist, a misogynist and all around cheat when it comes to paying contractors for the work they performed. But alas, he has not been convicted.
So to turn your phrase. Why is he immune?
Got your panties in a bunch over this one, don't y... (show quote)


OK but that does not answer my question. I was not talking about trump. If a person was not qualified to be an FBI agent because he was very careless with national security items he should not be trusted with the most classified items in the gov. and therefore is not qualified to be president. That fact alone would disqualify any other candidate, regardless of party. Things don't have to be proven- just the hint of scandal has disqualified any number of potential candidates. Obvious lying to congress would be grounds for any other candidate to be ousted from office. So I repeat my question, which you have yet to answer, Why is she immune?

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Aug 23, 2016 12:06:01   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Frank T wrote:
Oh let's see. The Trump organization was sued successfully for racial discrimination in that they refused to rent/sell apartments to African Americans. That might be because he's a racist? .
A judge just recently stated that Trump University engaged in behaviors designed to defraud people. Oh yeah, that was the American judge with a Mexican name who Trump said couldn't be fair because he was a Latino. That might be because he's a racist.
So here's a plan. Instead of regurgitating this Hillary email bullshitathon, why not look at the real issues that they'll be dealing with as President. Let's see a debate about the issues and about policies. I know that puts Donny at a disadvantage because he doesn't know policies, foreign relations or economics. But what the hell, with some Nachos and Beer it might be a fun evening.
Oh let's see. The Trump organization was sued suc... (show quote)


My point is that you go through all of that regarding Trump but nothing about Hillary's problems with security clearances, lying then as well as right now over the same information. Is Trump the most ideal candidate? No of course he is not. I wish the GOP had somebody better who didn't have any glaring faults. But if you are going to judge Trump on the remarks of one judge then maybe you should also consider that Obama has had numerous decisions he made struck down by judges. Do you not have anything at all showing Hillary in a bad light? Obama? Or are they both absolutely perfect people who will do a bang up job? Obviously Obama sure hasn't so far and indication are that Hillary won't either.

Dennis

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Aug 23, 2016 12:16:53   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Neither is an ideal candidate. Hillary falls within the frame work of not being mentally ill or insane. Trump on the other hand crossed that bridge a long time ago. He's a two year old trapped in a man's body.

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Aug 23, 2016 12:40:27   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Frank T wrote:
Neither is an ideal candidate. Hillary falls within the frame work of not being mentally ill or insane. Trump on the other hand crossed that bridge a long time ago. He's a two year old trapped in a man's body.


Even if that was true, which it certainly isn't, it would not make him insane or mentally ill. Another way to look at Trump that his haters refuse to acknowledge is that, say what you will, he IS a successful business man who has made Billions of dollars. If he has filed bankruptcy four times it should be to his credit that he has regrouped and built himself back up once again. Most people are not judges on their successes while doing well but moreso on their ability to be down and then get back up. It would seem Trump has done that time and again according to Liberals. Trump is criticized about not releasing his tax returns. My understanding is he said he would release them. It isn't election time quite yet and I expect he will release them in due time. As I recall a court waited three years for Hillary to release her Rose Law Firm papers that miraculously were found on a hall table where they had sat for the three years unnoticed by anyone in the Clinton household. Amazing she was able to find them at all under the circumstances. They must have been totally covered with dust in that time.

It is a bit disingenuous (I believe that is the word I am wanting to use) that Hillary is afforded mistakes, verbal gaffes, outright lies etc. time and again while Trump is held responsible to every single syllable and decision he has made from high school on. But isn't that the way with Liberal thinking. George Bush was deemed a bad choice because he apparently missed some flight training in his fighter jet squadron. Yet Bill Clinton, a confirmed draft dodger was worshipped for his non military service. It would help us Liberal non believers if the goal posts weren't constantly changed to afford the Liberal candidate the upper hand.

Dennis

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Aug 23, 2016 13:13:47   #
green Loc: 22.1749611,-159.646704,20
 
boberic wrote:
OK but that does not answer my question. I was not talking about trump. If a person was not qualified to be an FBI agent because he was very careless with national security items he should not be trusted with the most classified items in the gov. and therefore is not qualified to be president. That fact alone would disqualify any other candidate, regardless of party. Things don't have to be proven- just the hint of scandal has disqualified any number of potential candidates. Obvious lying to congress would be grounds for any other candidate to be ousted from office. So I repeat my question, which you have yet to answer, Why is she immune?
OK but that does not answer my question. I was no... (show quote)
we have laws, we have the idea that you are innocent until proven guilty. If she was guilty of 1/2 the crap she's accused of, don't you think someone could pin something on her? The right wingers throw up a lot of crap...hoping 1/10 of it will get traction.

You don't have to prove Hillary started ISIS, you just want the discussion to happen. I'm starting to think everything bad I hear about the Clinton's is just a bunch of lies... why did they wait 2 years until it was obvious she was running for president to start the endless Benghazi investigations?

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Aug 23, 2016 13:26:35   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
green wrote:
we have laws, we have the idea that you are innocent until proven guilty. If she was guilty of 1/2 the crap she's accused of, don't you think someone could pin something on her? The right wingers throw up a lot of crap...hoping 1/10 of it will get traction.

You don't have to prove Hillary started ISIS, you just want the discussion to happen. I'm starting to think everything bad I hear about the Clinton's is just a bunch of lies... why did they wait 2 years until it was obvious she was running for president to start the endless Benghazi investigations?
we have laws, we have the idea that you are innoce... (show quote)


Don't the Left Wingers do the exact same thing? How about Harry Reid saying Romney didn't pay his taxes. How about Liberals bringing up that Romney shut down tons of factories putting people out of work, how about the absolute lie that Romney killed a lady by taking her health insurance away from her. Absolutely none of that was true. While Romney may have shut factories that put people out of work, the factory was going out of business to begin with.

Obviously Hillary and Obama did not start ISIS. But what they did do is allow a situation to happen where ISIS could start. Nobody thinks Hillary or Obama actually went to Syria to form ISIS. They did nothing to stop it either though. In fact Obama as of maybe six months ago stated he still did not have a strategy to combat ISIS. Yet he is out on the golf course on a regular basis. I guess he is looking for divine guidance from Allah or Valerie Jarrett, whoever is more powerful now.

As for Hillary being indicted, when you have a Democratic Presidential candidate, a Democratic President, a Democratic DOJ head and then Bill Clinton talking to the DOJ head it tends to show that all are working together to NOT indict Hillary. Hillary is still lying about her emails even though she apologized for making a mistake. More emails were just discovered yesterday that she lied about. I guarantee if this was all on the Republican side you would most likely be the first one to yell FOUL. Please don't tell me that Liberals would simply sit back and say to themselves, Well, I guess Trump wasn't guilty of those things after all.

Dennis

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