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Jul 28, 2016 00:27:55   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
RWR wrote:
I'm talking about setting the white balance in the camera, before the shoot.


OH! I thought you were referring to making the adjustments afterword in post!

Yes I agree, adjust WB in camera makes sense, saves time later.

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Jul 28, 2016 00:36:42   #
RWR Loc: La Mesa, CA
 
JD750 wrote:
OH! I thought you were referring to making the adjustments afterword in post!

Yes I agree, adjust WB in camera makes sense, saves time later.

When shooting digital, I'll do anything to minimize post processing!

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Jul 28, 2016 00:54:43   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
RWR wrote:
When shooting digital, I'll do anything to minimize post processing!


Me too! LOL.

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Jul 28, 2016 00:55:39   #
TheDman Loc: USA
 
RWR wrote:
I'm talking about setting the white balance in the camera, before the shoot.


Also quicker and far more accurate to do in post.

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Jul 28, 2016 01:00:45   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
TheDman wrote:
Also quicker and far more accurate to do in post.


??

Did you read the replies directly preceding this?

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Jul 28, 2016 02:43:09   #
RWR Loc: La Mesa, CA
 
TheDman wrote:
Also quicker and far more accurate to do in post.

No doubt it's quick, easy and more precise to do in post, and for portraits, fashion and especially catalog photography and interior work is the best way to go. Most of what I do is in the mountains and desert, 6x7 and 6x9 transparency film, so an A2 or B2 filter is fine. With digital, the in-camera white balance comes close enough, no need for precise colors. I seldom use a CPU lens on my Nikon Df, so automatic white balance is out, it's usually set on 5200K.

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Jul 28, 2016 05:27:30   #
TheDman Loc: USA
 
JD750 wrote:
??

Did you read the replies directly preceding this?


Yep

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Jul 28, 2016 07:04:00   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
amfoto1 wrote:
Actually, yes it is a joke... even if unintended.

At Internet resolutions and sizes, you're unlikely to see the difference. Those sample images are way too small to offer anything definitive.

Also, a high quality, multi-coated filter is not likely to give any "issues" with a shot such as those in the samples: reasonable lighting conditions and the filter protected from any light directly striking it.

Poorer quality filters can effect image sharpness, amp up chromatic aberration, even interfere with auto focus.

High quality, multi-coated filters generally avoid those types of issues... But even the best can cause or increase veiling and ghost flare effects if strong oblique light strikes them.

They are simple facts:

1. Unlike film, digital imaging does not require UV filtration. It's already built into the camera itself.

2. Lenses are a lot tougher and harder to damage than people think.

3. It's sort of silly to think that a thin piece of glass is going to provide much, if any, "protection". Actually, the opposite can be true. A broken filter can cause damage.

4. Lens caps and lens hoods... most made of "high impact plastic" and bayonet mounted these days... both do a far better job protecting lenses than filters do. Somewhat ironically, if using a filter it's even more important to use the cap and hood, to protect the filter from damage and oblique light!

5. Lens hoods also have potential to improve image quality, might even help metering and autofocus work better... and so long as a hood is matched to a lens and properly attached, cannot possibly have any negative effects on images. The only reason to not use a lens hood is when needing to be so close that it gets in the way. Otherwise, it's just plain laziness to not use one.

6. Anything between the lens and the subject is going to have some effect on every image... be it Schott glass, window glass, a chain-link fence or just plain atmosphere.

7. Fans of "protection" filters will argue to the grave for their use, with no real evidence to support their claims.

8. There is more evidence of the opposite... that filters do little or no good protecting a lens. For example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0CLPTd6Bds

9. It's easy to store filters in your bag and have them handy, ready to use in certain situations such as blowing sand.

10. Damaged lenses can be repaired, sometimes at less or little more than the cost of a quality filter.

11. There are some rare occasions when a UV filter might help reduce visible atmospheric "blue haze" in images.

12. Who cares? It's their images that might be compromised for no good reason... not mine. So I like it when a competitor uses a filter! The cheaper and crappier, the better!
Actually, yes it is a joke... even if unintended. ... (show quote)


Much of what you say is true, but you are overlooking some positive aspects. Filters are not the panacea but they do protect against certain types of damage that hoods do not.

A couple of examples are air born abrasives and cleaning abrasion. The affects of a good filter will not be noticeable beyond lab testing in nearly all shooting conditions.

#12 makes the most sense. Its irrelevant what others do or not. There is evidence on both sides of the issue so it comes down to personal choice.

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Jul 28, 2016 07:56:06   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
joer wrote:
... There is evidence on both sides of the issue so it comes down to personal choice.



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Jul 28, 2016 18:48:35   #
mcveed Loc: Kelowna, British Columbia (between trips)
 
The cure for boredom is curiosity. Bob was just curious about how many people he could suck into a discussion of this long dead and buried subject. By the way, there is no cure for curiosity.

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Jul 29, 2016 00:30:59   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
mcveed wrote:
The cure for boredom is curiosity. Bob was just curious about how many people he could suck into a discussion of this long dead and buried subject. By the way, there is no cure for curiosity.


Apparently there is a cure for cats.

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Jul 29, 2016 03:43:56   #
mcveed Loc: Kelowna, British Columbia (between trips)
 
JD750 wrote:
Apparently there is a cure for cats.


Somebody should tell the Italians. At night the Coliseum is swarming with them.

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