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Jul 24, 2016 12:26:48   #
Papa j Loc: Cary NC
 
OnDSnap wrote:
Unfortunately there is always risk when it comes to electronics...faulty equipment, surges, carelessness, misfortunes, mother nature, is my way better than yours...not necessarily, the so called "Cloud" it's just a bunch of computers all susceptible to failure. In my eyes, I suppose it depends on what you stand to lose should something go wrong. My wife says I'm paranoid when it comes to my work, backups and security. Am I 100% protected, absolutely not. Do I feel secure... yes. An once of prevention is worth a ton of sorrow for sure.
I have set up backup systems for many that didn't have any in place, unfortunately when it was to late, they paid for it and I don't mean in cost for my services, mostly lost data and or down time when they could be doing business something a bit more enjoyable. Usually cause they didn't take the time to set up some sort of backup...not doing anything is a tough learning curve. It's not if something can fail, more like when will it. Could be as simple as creating a restore point or just a systems backup, an initial snap shot of a new computer OS when first turned on. Which I think is one of the most important and the one most over looked, they to often think, ahh! new computer, what can go wrong, what's to back up? Anything is better than nothing.
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Thanks Jersey

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Jul 24, 2016 13:53:45   #
jimmya Loc: Phoenix
 
Papa j wrote:
I have LR CC and 40,000 photos. These are backed up on 3 external Seagates hard drives. I am relatively new at Cc and this back up process. In the past I simply exported all my photos as a catalog to each external drive, I have 2 in my home and 1 off site. My question is does the new export as a catalog over write the existing one or does it make a new one ? Can anyone suggest a better way to back up my photos. Thanks in advance to your on going assistance

Joe


All I do is file all photos in a folder that's numbered, so far I have 34 and about to start folder 35. When 34 is full I'll burn to DVD and label it then file in a zip up disc folder and store in my closet. So far no problems with any of the discs I've made over the years.

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Jul 24, 2016 14:00:42   #
Papa j Loc: Cary NC
 
jimmya wrote:
All I do is file all photos in a folder that's numbered, so far I have 34 and about to start folder 35. When 34 is full I'll burn to DVD and label it then file in a zip up disc folder and store in my closet. So far no problems with any of the discs I've made over the years.


thanks jimmya

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Jul 24, 2016 22:31:26   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
To begin with, I would suggest that you set Lightroom to backup your catalog every time you close it. You can bypass the backup, if you want to and haven't really done anything but look, but it's good procedure. When I import my photos, they are written to an external drive connected to my iMac AND an external NAS at the same time! Both of these devices are configured in RAID 1. My external NAS, backs itself up to another external NAS, on its own a few times a day. In addition to this, I periodically ( bad here, only once a month) take hard drives to a friends house and bring a copy of his stuff back with me. Am considering cloud storage as well. Just my suggestions. Best of luck!

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Jul 25, 2016 06:47:54   #
Papa j Loc: Cary NC
 
cjc2 wrote:
To begin with, I would suggest that you set Lightroom to backup your catalog every time you close it. You can bypass the backup, if you want to and haven't really done anything but look, but it's good procedure. When I import my photos, they are written to an external drive connected to my iMac AND an external NAS at the same time! Both of these devices are configured in RAID 1. My external NAS, backs itself up to another external NAS, on its own a few times a day. In addition to this, I periodically ( bad here, only once a month) take hard drives to a friends house and bring a copy of his stuff back with me. Am considering cloud storage as well. Just my suggestions. Best of luck!
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THANKS

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Jul 25, 2016 12:33:52   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
OnDSnap wrote:
the so called "Cloud" it's just a bunch of computers all susceptible to failure.


Companies like Dropbox, Google, Microsoft, Apple, etc spend BILLIONS each year to protect sensitive data. I think you can take the risk.

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Jul 25, 2016 12:49:52   #
Papa j Loc: Cary NC
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Companies like Dropbox, Google, Microsoft, Apple, etc spend BILLIONS each year to protect sensitive data. I think you can take the risk.


Thanks

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Jul 25, 2016 15:52:42   #
brucewells Loc: Central Kentucky
 
Papa j wrote:
I'm sorry perhaps I did not phrase my question correctly. I do back up my LR catalog once a week on exit.. I know this is not my photo back up . I used a tube video tutorial which instructed me to open LR in Library I selected the folder all my photos are in and righ clicked and selected export these photos as a catalog to my external drive I know they are on my external I checked get info and35,000 + items are there 2+ TB of space. My question is if I redo those steps will I create a 2nd backup or will it just update the existing backup

J
I'm sorry perhaps I did not phrase my question cor... (show quote)


My guess is you'd create a second copy of exported catalog and images. The first thing that pops into my mind is whether you shoot raw. The exported images are very likely JPG. If you shoot raw, then should you have a disk failure, those raw images will be gone. On your external drive, you'll have all those images as JPGs. If you're okay with that, then I guess this will work.

The second thing that comes to mind is the amount of time devoted to that export. Your method will not check to see if a particular image is already on the external drive, so it will export it again. And again, take a long time.

True backup software determines which files have not yet been backed up and backs up only the images that haven't been. The time it takes to do this is substantially shorter than copying all the images every time.

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Jul 25, 2016 16:53:20   #
Papa j Loc: Cary NC
 
brucewells wrote:
My guess is you'd create a second copy of exported catalog and images. The first thing that pops into my mind is whether you shoot raw. The exported images are very likely JPG. If you shoot raw, then should you have a disk failure, those raw images will be gone. On your external drive, you'll have all those images as JPGs. If you're okay with that, then I guess this will work.

The second thing that comes to mind is the amount of time devoted to that export. Your method will not check to see if a particular image is already on the external drive, so it will export it again. And again, take a long time.

True backup software determines which files have not yet been backed up and backs up only the images that haven't been. The time it takes to do this is substantially shorter than copying all the images every time.
My guess is you'd create a second copy of exported... (show quote)


Thanks Bruce I do shoot raw and 3 you tube videos claim that the exported catalog photos are raw not JPEG. I would love a back up software that would only update changes and new photos.

Joe

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Jul 26, 2016 00:53:16   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
Papa j wrote:
Thanks Bruce I do shoot raw and 3 you tube videos claim that the exported catalog photos are raw not JPEG. I would love a back up software that would only update changes and new photos.

Joe


The "catalog" contains no photos, only information about them. It absolutely needs to be backed up. The actual photos, taken by your camera in whatever format, are stored in a location(s) that you tell Lightroom to store them in. These also absolutely need to be backed up. Lightroom will handle backing up its catalog automatically, if you let it, but additional backup is always a good idea. There are several good programs, some platform dependent, that do a varied job of assisting you with backup. To get it right, you need to give it some thought and you'd be better off if you did that before you had a major problem!

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Jul 26, 2016 00:59:59   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
Papa j wrote:
Tclaim that the exported catalog photos are raw not JPEG. I would love a back up software that would only update changes and new photos.Joe


You select the format for exporting in Lightroom: JPG, DNG (RAW) or TIFF.

Acronis True Image is $50 from NewEgg, will do incremental backups of targeted folders to network connected or USB storage.

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Jul 26, 2016 06:04:50   #
OnDSnap Loc: NE New Jersey
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Companies like Dropbox, Google, Microsoft, Apple, etc spend BILLIONS each year to protect sensitive data. I think you can take the risk.


Good for them, You take the risk...

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