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Jun 27, 2016 17:28:53   #
Los-Angeles-Shooter Loc: Los Angeles
 
What country are you in? Any discussion of "rights" or the law depends on that question.

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Jun 27, 2016 17:49:54   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
amfoto1 wrote:
I sell digital files all the time. It's no big deal and demand for it is increasing every year. But there are some very important considerations and licensing procedures.

First question is, what is her intended use? Personal or commercial?

If she just wants freedom to print them herself, using the printer of her choice to make a big print to display on her wall at home (and even reprint in the future), that's personal use. Displaying a smaller version on a personal website or sharing it somewhere online also would be personal use. I license this type of usage perpetually, non-transferrable and non-exclusively, with copyright remaining mine. I never sell "all rights" or ever, EVER transfer copyright ownership.

For personal use, I offer two sizes: "Low resolution" that are plenty for 4x5 or 4x6 prints, maybe 5x7 or online sharing and display (1200x1500 or 1200x1800 max), $8 apiece.. And "high resolution" big enough to make 8x10 to 8x12 size or slightly larger (usually about 2400x3000 or 2400x3600 pixels) for $18 apiece. If larger number of digital files are purchased at the same time, I offer some volume discounts, too. All images sold this way are "marked" with a small, unobtrusive "signature", with copyright info and license details embedded in the image EXIF and, optionally, as a plain txt file. The license also allows for third party to provide printing services or host the image on behalf of the licensee. Any other usage, transfer of usage rights, or modification of the image other than minor re-sizing requires additional, written approval of the the copyright owner (me!), which would only be given after negotiating additional payment.

30x40 inches @ 300 ppi is huge, though... and really makes me kinda suspicious that she might have a more commercial intention with the images. I'd be asking more questions. Lots more!

Using the image in one calendar to hang over her desk = personal usage. Using the image in a press run of 100 or 1000 or 10,000 calendars that will be sold = commercial usage. Using the image to make a dozen or twenty postcards to send to friends = personal usage. Using the image to make 10,000 or 100,000 postcards to sell = commercial usage. Using the file to make a 30x40 print to frame and hang on her living room wall = personal usage. Using it to offer up to 30x40 prints for sale on certain websites or in a local gallery = commercial usage.

Rates for commercial usage (including one-time editorial usage) are higher... much higher in some cases depending upon the type of use, quantities, any sort of exclusivity, rights of renewal, etc.

If her intentions are commercial, far more details about exact use of the image needs to be known, before any sort of price could be negotiated and determined. It could be structured as a single fee, up front... or as a per-item royalty on sales... or a combination of the two.

30x40 inches @ 300 ppi is doable... as noted up-rezzing will certainly be needed, but I disagree with previous response. I think that, assuming the image itself is a high quality capture, with care it could be done. However, for printing purposes 300 ppi is generally overkill. Printers I work with are happy with 170 ppi for prints that large... 5100x6800, or about 35 MP. There would be no discernible improvement in quality, merely by providing 300 ppi. vs 240 ppi... and little to be gained over 170 ppi with many printing processes for a very large print that will necessarily be viewed from some distance. $50 seems reasonable, for personal usage only such as I license, and considering the extra post-processing work that would be needed to make a 9000x12000 pixel file. If you end up making it that large, it might need to be burned it to disk and delivered or mailed, due to the size, rather than sent via a download (something like Dropbox might work... can't say for sure since I've never had reason to deal with that large a file).
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You can up-rez all you want but the fact is that a 30x40 image doesn't need 300 ppi - it needs only about 64 ppi - or 1920x2560 - to appear sharp, when you take viewing distance into consideration. Unless you are an eagle or a hawk, your eyes cannot resolve the fine detail in an 30x40 image printed at 300 ppi, compared to one printed at 64 ppi, when viewed at about 5 ft.

You can disagree with me all you want, but these are facts based on scientific measurement and recognized in the print industry. Only photographers think they need 300 ppi for everything. A 108 mp file is completely unnecessary. If you don't believe me, take a look at the iPhone 6 billboards around town - done with an 8 mp camera, or 12 mp if it shows an iPhone 6s image. You can uprez all you want, but what you can't do is produce fine detail that is not in the original image. It might look marginally better than an image that has not been uprezzed, but, again, at a normal viewing distance, the differences would be insignificant. Print labs will generally complain if you don't send them an image with enough pixels, but trust me, I have had some very nice images printed to 40x60 from uncropped Nikon D70s (6mp) that have sold in galleries and art shows. Most print labs use a RIP that optimizes the image for their equipment in any case, better than any uprezzing program you might load on your computer.

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Jun 27, 2016 19:15:34   #
DebAnn Loc: Toronto
 
Why don't you offer her the 30 x 40 print yourself? Then you can control the outcome and she can't produce multiple copies. It might be a bit more work but at least you control the job and don't give your digital files away.

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Jun 27, 2016 19:47:37   #
DebAnn Loc: Toronto
 
Why don't you offer her the 30 x 40 print yourself? Then you can control the outcome and she can't produce multiple copies. It might be a bit more work but at least you control the job and don't give your digital files away.

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Jun 28, 2016 20:23:06   #
DJO
 
mmatus wrote:
I have a customer who wants to buy three digital files? Do I lose all ownership of those files? She wants large files(30 x40) @300 dpi, so she can resize and print.
The weddings and Senior Portages I have done I have never released (My choice) the digital files. What is everyone opinion about selling digital files? If I want to do this I would charge $50 per file. Thanks for your time.


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My opinion is don't do it, at least not for portrait clients. In the long run you will loose money and it's poor precedent. Common practice while I was working was that for commercial clients to purchase ownership outright, the fee was 2x to 3x the photographer's day rate. I considered that to be fair. I suppose you could try it with a portrait client. If your sitting fee for the session was $600.00, tell the client they can have the entire lot of digital files for $1800.00. That would be, of course, without correction, retouching, or post production of any kind.

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