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May 31, 2016 20:44:17   #
Jeff Smith 1 Loc: Pocono Mountains, PA
 
SharpShooter wrote:
When I read that kind of advice, I usually start to laugh.
If I were at a beach and was gonna play frisbee with the camera, what is sealing gonna help for?!
Sealing is good if you're gonna shoot in open RAIN!!
I've shot at beaches, on boats, wading in the water, dust storms and open rain, and yes, changed lenses in all of the above. Not once has the beach reached up, grabbed the camera out of my hands, thrown it down and rubbed it into the sand! Maybe I've just been lucky!?!?
Just teach her what a neck strap is for and she will likely keep it out of the water and the sand.
Jeez loueeze!!!
SS
When I read that kind of advice, I usually start t... (show quote)

Good to know. I agree with you on neck straps. Mine has saved me many times. Thanks again.

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May 31, 2016 20:45:48   #
Jeff Smith 1 Loc: Pocono Mountains, PA
 
burkphoto wrote:
If taking photography courses, find out whether it's digital or film based. Some professors are still in the Stone Age, or have no computers, no computer skills, or just teach film because they like it...

We're definitely talking digital.

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May 31, 2016 20:48:56   #
Jeff Smith 1 Loc: Pocono Mountains, PA
 
burkphoto wrote:


Thanks. Another possibility!

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May 31, 2016 21:15:17   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
Jeff Smith 1 wrote:
Thanks for your vote. Makes sense.


The only issue with the OMD series will be finding one in your price. You might find an original em5 (used) in the $300 range, but then you'll have another challenge of a weather sealed lens. The 12-50 is so-so and that leaves the 14-150, 12-40, or 12-35 which even used will put you over budget. Now if you don't want a weather sealed lens, you'll be within budget with a used 14-42, 12-32, 40-150, 20, 17, or 45.

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May 31, 2016 22:37:13   #
patrick43 Loc: Los Lunas,NM
 
Jeff Smith 1 wrote:
I'm looking for suggestions for a camera to be used by a student entering college in Maine this fall. She is looking to take a variety of pictures, to include the normal friends, activities and landscapes, but also will need to be able to do closeups (I'm thinking macro or close to it) and "artistic" types of images. One challenging aspect is location -- a lot of time on or near the water or beaches, so a degree of water/sand/dust resistance is important. Another challenge is budget: in the $500 neighborhood.
As an old Nikon SLR guy, I'm not at all familiar with options that might fit the bill, including mirror-less. Any and all suggestions greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance for your help!!
I'm looking for suggestions for a camera to be use... (show quote)


Hi Jeff. I encountered your exact position in January. My granddaughter had just completed her first semester in college and was signing up for her second semester. She plans on majoring in journalism. For one of her classes, the instructor wanted them to have either a camera or tablet. Not a cell phone. The purpose was taking photos of people they interviewed or vegetables or fruit in a super market if they are doing a related story, etc.
I took her my Nikon P7100 and she loves it. Not quite pocket size but almost. Will fit in cargo shorts for instance. Has viewfinder and screen. 7X zoom. (200mm equivalent.) Can shoot aperture, manual, or shutter priority. Scene mode has close up feature that is excellent. Plus or minus 3 adjustment. Built in neutral density filter. Not in production anymore, but I saw one used at KEH a
couple of days ago rated excellent + for $182. Dakota loves hers. Just a thought. patrick
PS. There is an excellent book by David Busch also available that will explain everything about this camera.

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Jun 1, 2016 04:55:50   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
SharpShooter wrote:
When I read that kind of advice, I usually start to laugh.
If I were at a beach and was gonna play frisbee with the camera, what is sealing gonna help for?!
Sealing is good if you're gonna shoot in open RAIN!!
I've shot at beaches, on boats, wading in the water, dust storms and open rain, and yes, changed lenses in all of the above. Not once has the beach reached up, grabbed the camera out of my hands, thrown it down and rubbed it into the sand! Maybe I've just been lucky!?!?
Just teach her what a neck strap is for and she will likely keep it out of the water and the sand.
Jeez loueeze!!!
SS
When I read that kind of advice, I usually start t... (show quote)


I actually consider both you and I either lucky or that we happen to have the cameras that have held up better than a few. I have had my camera out in Great Sand Dunes National Park in a wind storm that took the hair off my legs and sanded my skin raw (used my cheap polarizer to protect my front lense element). You should have seem the sand I needed to empty from my pockets. I have had to wash the salt spray (or coating) off my camera under the slow running water of my hotel room's sink. I spent over an hour in the pouring rain in Mykonos with absolutely no protection for the camera. I have fallen on my camera in Crete such that it required extreme force with improvised tools to get the filter off. I have abused my camera and it is still in perfect working shape (the lense hood has a lot of scrapes).

Unfortunately, some of my friends under the same circumstances have had their amateur or pro sealed cameras fail even while trying to protect the cameras from the very same elements. This is why cameras like the TG-4 exist. I would "fear" the elements even less if I was using such a camera.

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Jun 1, 2016 10:24:31   #
Jeff Smith 1 Loc: Pocono Mountains, PA
 
Cdouthitt wrote:
The only issue with the OMD series will be finding one in your price. You might find an original em5 (used) in the $300 range, but then you'll have another challenge of a weather sealed lens. The 12-50 is so-so and that leaves the 14-150, 12-40, or 12-35 which even used will put you over budget. Now if you don't want a weather sealed lens, you'll be within budget with a used 14-42, 12-32, 40-150, 20, 17, or 45.

Thanks for your insights, Clint.

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Jun 1, 2016 10:26:22   #
Jeff Smith 1 Loc: Pocono Mountains, PA
 
patrick43 wrote:
Hi Jeff. I encountered your exact position in January. My granddaughter had just completed her first semester in college and was signing up for her second semester. She plans on majoring in journalism. For one of her classes, the instructor wanted them to have either a camera or tablet. Not a cell phone. The purpose was taking photos of people they interviewed or vegetables or fruit in a super market if they are doing a related story, etc.
I took her my Nikon P7100 and she loves it. Not quite pocket size but almost. Will fit in cargo shorts for instance. Has viewfinder and screen. 7X zoom. (200mm equivalent.) Can shoot aperture, manual, or shutter priority. Scene mode has close up feature that is excellent. Plus or minus 3 adjustment. Built in neutral density filter. Not in production anymore, but I saw one used at KEH a
couple of days ago rated excellent + for $182. Dakota loves hers. Just a thought. patrick
PS. There is an excellent book by David Busch also available that will explain everything about this camera.
Hi Jeff. I encountered your exact position in Janu... (show quote)


Thanks Patrick. I'll check it out.

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Jun 1, 2016 10:26:52   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
Jeff Smith 1 wrote:
Thanks for your insights, Clint.


Now don't get me wrong...I love my OMD...and they have them refurbished right now for $719...but that's really going to stretch your budget once you add a lens.
http://www.getolympus.com/us/en/outlet/reconditioned-cameras.html

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Jun 1, 2016 10:28:35   #
Jeff Smith 1 Loc: Pocono Mountains, PA
 
wdross wrote:
I actually consider both you and I either lucky or that we happen to have the cameras that have held up better than a few. I have had my camera out in Great Sand Dunes National Park in a wind storm that took the hair off my legs and sanded my skin raw (used my cheap polarizer to protect my front lense element). You should have seem the sand I needed to empty from my pockets. I have had to wash the salt spray (or coating) off my camera under the slow running water of my hotel room's sink. I spent over an hour in the pouring rain in Mykonos with absolutely no protection for the camera. I have fallen on my camera in Crete such that it required extreme force with improvised tools to get the filter off. I have abused my camera and it is still in perfect working shape (the lense hood has a lot of scrapes).

Unfortunately, some of my friends under the same circumstances have had their amateur or pro sealed cameras fail even while trying to protect the cameras from the very same elements. This is why cameras like the TG-4 exist. I would "fear" the elements even less if I was using such a camera.
I actually consider both you and I either lucky or... (show quote)


Perhaps you are indeed lucky, or perhaps live right. I can't otherwise imagine how your camera survived those conditions. Thanks for sharing your experience.

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Jun 1, 2016 10:29:42   #
Jeff Smith 1 Loc: Pocono Mountains, PA
 
Cdouthitt wrote:
Now don't get me wrong...I love my OMD...and they have them refurbished right now for $719...but that's really going to stretch your budget once you add a lens.
http://www.getolympus.com/us/en/outlet/reconditioned-cameras.html

Yes, a bit out of the range, but thanks for the thoughts anyway.

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