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May 7, 2012 00:24:25   #
ahzwizerd2 Loc: Willowbrook, ca
 
I want to reframe a antique picture to a bigger frame but the picture has stuck to the glass on one of the corners .
Does anybody know how to seperate the photograph from the glass without destroying the photo?

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May 7, 2012 00:26:49   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
Is it important to preserve that corner, or can you lose it and frame in an oval mat?

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May 7, 2012 01:19:57   #
14kphotog Loc: Marietta, Ohio
 
Could you touch the back of the photo with a damp cloth, not too much water?

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May 8, 2012 05:37:07   #
thegrimreeper Loc: England U.K.
 
I have had this problem before and solved it by removing the frame then completely immerse the glass and image in cold water and wait for it to float off, Do not try to dab or force dry. I was sceptical but it worked and no damage to the image

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May 8, 2012 06:09:20   #
LGilbert Loc: Earth
 
ahzwizerd2 wrote:
...the picture has stuck to the glass on one of the corners . Does anybody know how to seperate the photograph from the glass without destroying the photo?


The original picture, after processing and washing, was a wet piece of paper that was carefully dried using a photographic dryer that stretched the picture over a curved metallic surface that did not stick to it, thus preventing ripples by applying a single gentle curl to the picture while it dried. Soaking the picture and glass in water will ultimately float the picture clear of the glass, probably without damage, however a proper paper drier should be available to dry it evenly again. You can try gently wetting it from the back with a very small sponge in the very center of the attached area and immediately cease applying water the moment the water has spread to the edges of the attached area and it releases, but you run the risk of a water spot or distorted surface as the liquid will spread laterally driving a contamination stain before it.

It would be better to not subject the print to a full soak without proper drying equipment so the question remains as to whether the picture could be recropped via matting to hide this corner. I do not recommend cutting the corner or trimming the picture as the rule of conservation/restoration is to do as little damage as possible to the original and to use procedures that are reversible (ie. you are not removing anything permanently). If the picture can be rematted without ruining the composition much then, perhaps, gentling separating it from the glass with a razor would minimize the damage that the removal process causes. Either way, gentle water application or razor, there is a danger of damage to the area of attachment.

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May 8, 2012 10:22:56   #
WAL
 
If this is a hand tinted picture i would think twice before soaking it. You may want to scan or copy it with a camera before doing any thing. If it's larger than your scanner you can scan it in sections and assemble it in a photo program.

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May 8, 2012 11:11:49   #
Blake Loc: Alfred NY
 
thegrimreeper wrote:
I have had this problem before and solved it by removing the frame then completely immerse the glass and image in cold water and wait for it to float off, Do not try to dab or force dry. I was sceptical but it worked and no damage to the image


Hey grimreeper,
Welcome to the club. I didn't know the grimreeper was a sergeant in the Horse guard, Nice avatar
Blake

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May 8, 2012 13:23:24   #
ggttc Loc: TN
 
It depends on how much of the corner is stuck....is it an inch or two...I think all of the above are solutions...but I would hesitate to submerge the whole photo...i would try submerging the corner...but as said above...if you do get it unstuck...drying is going to be a problem...In MHO...cropping might be the best answer

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May 8, 2012 15:52:20   #
MIKE GALLAGHER Loc: New Zealand
 
thegrimreeper wrote:
I have had this problem before and solved it by removing the frame then completely immerse the glass and image in cold water and wait for it to float off, Do not try to dab or force dry. I was sceptical but it worked and no damage to the image


Remember that photos (old, real ones) were made in water and liquid chemicals, and another soaking won't hurt. Just do as 'thegrimreeper' says. Hang the retrieved photo up to drip-dry.
Mike

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May 8, 2012 17:16:14   #
Debby910 Loc: Floida
 
ahzwizerd2 wrote:
I want to reframe a antique picture to a bigger frame but the picture has stuck to the glass on one of the corners .
Does anybody know how to seperate the photograph from the glass without destroying the photo?


I am a scrapbooker and I use a product called UN-DU to remove glue from the back of photos or to unglue a photo from one place and reglue to another place on a page. Basically it's an adhesive remover. Dries very quickly (seconds) and doesn't damage the photo.

However; I have never used it on a very old photo.

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May 8, 2012 22:00:55   #
Blake Loc: Alfred NY
 
Blake wrote:
thegrimreeper wrote:
I have had this problem before and solved it by removing the frame then completely immerse the glass and image in cold water and wait for it to float off, Do not try to dab or force dry. I was sceptical but it worked and no damage to the image


Hey grimreeper,
Welcome to the club. I didn't know the grimreeper was a sergeant in the Horse guard, Nice avatar
Blake


Grimreeper,
Sorry me ole trouble and strife tells me that I am mistaken that your uniform is not the horse guards Please forgive a sepo. She is a Londoner

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May 8, 2012 23:03:59   #
MIKE GALLAGHER Loc: New Zealand
 
Debby910 wrote:
ahzwizerd2 wrote:
I want to reframe a antique picture to a bigger frame but the picture has stuck to the glass on one of the corners .
Does anybody know how to seperate the photograph from the glass without destroying the photo?


I am a scrapbooker and I use a product called UN-DU to remove glue from the back of photos or to unglue a photo from one place and reglue to another place on a page. Basically it's an adhesive remover. Dries very quickly (seconds) and doesn't damage the photo.

However; I have never used it on a very old photo.
quote=ahzwizerd2 I want to reframe a antique pict... (show quote)

That's unsticking a picture from behind. You could've used a chisel! This one has the print side stuck to the glass. Use WATER.
Mike

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May 9, 2012 15:30:24   #
ahzwizerd2 Loc: Willowbrook, ca
 
Yes it is important to keep the corner it is a family picture
I wonder if I soak the picture in water would it release without damageing the photo

Bill41 wrote:
Is it important to preserve that corner, or can you lose it and frame in an oval mat?

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May 9, 2012 15:32:50   #
ahzwizerd2 Loc: Willowbrook, ca
 
Thanks for commenting I'll try that
14kphotog wrote:
Could you touch the back of the photo with a damp cloth, not too much water?

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May 9, 2012 15:35:13   #
ahzwizerd2 Loc: Willowbrook, ca
 
Good thought Thanks
ggttc wrote:
It depends on how much of the corner is stuck....is it an inch or two...I think all of the above are solutions...but I would hesitate to submerge the whole photo...i would try submerging the corner...but as said above...if you do get it unstuck...drying is going to be a problem...In MHO...cropping might be the best answer

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