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Apr 10, 2016 17:58:13   #
Garyminor Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
I have imported several files from a folder into Lightroom. Some were imported as a group first, then others were imported later. They are all named the same, except that each has a different number suffix.

When I display them using Windows Explorer, They display in proper order by filename (numerical suffix).

When I display them in the Library module, Grid or Loupe, most of them are in order by filename. However, a couple are out of order. They are not at the beginning or end, but just a few positions from where they should be.

Can anyone tell me how to get them in order by filename?

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Apr 10, 2016 18:17:25   #
LarryFB Loc: Depends where our RV is parked
 
Garyminor wrote:
I have imported several files from a folder into Lightroom. Some were imported as a group first, then others were imported later. They are all named the same, except that each has a different number suffix.

When I display them using Windows Explorer, They display in proper order by filename (numerical suffix).

When I display them in the Library module, Grid or Loupe, most of them are in order by filename. However, a couple are out of order. They are not at the beginning or end, but just a few positions from where they should be.

Can anyone tell me how to get them in order by filename?
I have imported several files from a folder into L... (show quote)


In the library mode, go under view, click on sort, then choose the sorting order you want. Most likely you will select "by file name." It's that simple

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Apr 10, 2016 19:32:38   #
Garyminor Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
LarryFB wrote:
In the library mode, go under view, click on sort, then choose the sorting order you want. Most likely you will select "by file name." It's that simple


That's exactly what I needed. Thanks.

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Apr 11, 2016 08:36:01   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
Garyminor wrote:
I have imported several files from a folder into Lightroom. Some were imported as a group first, then others were imported later. They are all named the same, except that each has a different number suffix.

When I display them using Windows Explorer, They display in proper order by filename (numerical suffix).

When I display them in the Library module, Grid or Loupe, most of them are in order by filename. However, a couple are out of order. They are not at the beginning or end, but just a few positions from where they should be.

Can anyone tell me how to get them in order by filename?
I have imported several files from a folder into L... (show quote)


Everyone needs to try reading the #%&(!@#$ manual just once.

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Apr 11, 2016 09:46:35   #
mrtobin Loc: North East Ohio
 
BobHartung wrote:
Everyone needs to try reading the #%&(!@#$ manual just once.


And what #%&(!@#$ manual are you suggesting?

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Apr 11, 2016 11:14:59   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
BobHartung wrote:
Everyone needs to try reading the #%&(!@#$ manual just once.


Well, Lightroom doesn't come with a #%&(!@#$ manual.

But there are some excellent books that folks might want to invest in... as well as online tutorials and classes.

Problem is, something that "only costs $10 a month" seems like it should be simple and easy to use. Lightroom certainly isn't. It's a powerful and complex program that has a significant learning curve... of course Photoshop that you get along with LR is probably 4X as complex and challenging to learn to use really well.

I have some sympathy for folks who need to ask a quick question or two about how to use these programs... we all end up in those situations from time to time. However I also think there are an awful lot of people who buy into the $10 a month Adobe CC scheme who really shouldn't... don't really need the advanced capabilities of LR and PS, only buy it because the subscription seems cheap (for now). They might be a lot better off... and able to handle all their needs a lot more efficiently... with something like Elements, which also has considerable user support built-in (which is almost completely lacking from LR and PS).

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Apr 11, 2016 12:52:40   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
amfoto1 wrote:
Well, Lightroom doesn't come with a #%&(!@#$ manual.

But there are some excellent books that folks might want to invest in... as well as online tutorials and classes.

Problem is, something that "only costs $10 a month" seems like it should be simple and easy to use. Lightroom certainly isn't. It's a powerful and complex program that has a significant learning curve... of course Photoshop that you get along with LR is probably 4X as complex and challenging to learn to use really well.

I have some sympathy for folks who need to ask a quick question or two about how to use these programs... we all end up in those situations from time to time. However I also think there are an awful lot of people who buy into the $10 a month Adobe CC scheme who really shouldn't... don't really need the advanced capabilities of LR and PS, only buy it because the subscription seems cheap (for now). They might be a lot better off... and able to handle all their needs a lot more efficiently... with something like Elements, which also has considerable user support built-in (which is almost completely lacking from LR and PS).
Well, Lightroom doesn't come with a #%&(!@#$ m... (show quote)


Okay. We agree on a couple of things, but this is a very basic part of the program that every user must know.

Adobe has an online manual and adequate tutorials.

https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom.html.

Also try Laura Shoe http://laurashoe.com/.

Too often there are inane questions asked when the OP has not lifted a finger to search for the answer themselves. When you expend the energy to find your own answer you are much more likely to remember it in the future.

So at lease go to these sites and spend a little time learning what is a very powerful post processing program. It you don't like it then use something else or acquire in jpeg and just send everything to Walgreens to get printed.

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Apr 11, 2016 13:15:10   #
Garyminor Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
BobHartung wrote:
Everyone needs to try reading the #%&(!@#$ manual just once.


I have read Scott Kelby's Lightroom CC from cover to cover, more than once. This question is not covered. I also spent a fair amount of time trying to solve this on my own.

It seemed to be a reasonable next step to post the question on this forum. I got a polite and accurate response. Then I got your response. You didn't suggest a manual or other source. You can do better!

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Apr 11, 2016 14:58:59   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
Garyminor wrote:
I have read Scott Kelby's Lightroom CC from cover to cover, more than once. This question is not covered. I also spent a fair amount of time trying to solve this on my own.

It seemed to be a reasonable next step to post the question on this forum. I got a polite and accurate response. Then I got your response. You didn't suggest a manual or other source. You can do better!


Scott Kelby is not where you need to go.

Go to Google: Type in "image order in Lightroom grid view" (without the quote marks) and the first response was
http://blogs.adobe.com/jkost/2012/02/lr3-how-do-you-change-the-order-of-images-before-renaming.html
The second is:
http://blogs.adobe.com/jkost/tag/custom-sort-order
or
http://www.peachpit.com/guides/content.aspx?g=lightroom&seqNum=155

Up on my soapbox.

All of these are free. If you know how to post to this site, you also know how to perform a Google search and read a little on your own. In my opinion, you just didn't want to expend any energy to find you own answer. Just like too many school kids today, you wanted to be spoon fed.

Off my soapbox.

You will always find that there is more than one way to tackle a problem if you research a little on your own rather than get fed a few scraps, that may not make a coherent whole, by a bunch of people, each of whom has figured out his/her own way to work with the program.

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Apr 11, 2016 16:59:37   #
INshooter Loc: Indiana
 
BobHartung wrote:
Scott Kelby is not where you need to go.

Go to Google: Type in "image order in Lightroom grid view" (without the quote marks) and the first response was
http://blogs.adobe.com/jkost/2012/02/lr3-how-do-you-change-the-order-of-images-before-renaming.html
The second is:
http://blogs.adobe.com/jkost/tag/custom-sort-order
or
http://www.peachpit.com/guides/content.aspx?g=lightroom&seqNum=155

Up on my soapbox.

All of these are free. If you know how to post to this site, you also know how to perform a Google search and read a little on your own. In my opinion, you just didn't want to expend any energy to find you own answer. Just like too many school kids today, you wanted to be spoon fed.



Off my soapbox.

You will always find that there is more than one way to tackle a problem if you research a little on your own rather than get fed a few scraps, that may not make a coherent whole, by a bunch of people, each of whom has figured out his/her own way to work with the program.
Scott Kelby is not where you need to go. br br Go... (show quote)


For Pete's sake if you don't like his question then ignore it and let polite people answer him. No one is forcing you to do any research for him. Or to give any answer. Now, Off my soapbox. :)

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Apr 11, 2016 20:23:33   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
INshooter wrote:
For Pete's sake if you don't like his question then ignore it and let polite people answer him. No one is forcing you to do any research for him. Or to give any answer. Now, Off my soapbox. :)


My posts were meant to
1) castigate the OP for seemingly not really trying to answer his own question,
and
2) show the OP that there are many other sources of information than Scott Kelby and that they are available free except for a little searching effort and time.

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Apr 12, 2016 04:08:11   #
Captkirk Loc: Masterton, Wairarapa, New Zealand
 
BobHartung wrote:
My posts were meant to
1) castigate the OP for seemingly not really trying to answer his own question,
and
2) show the OP that there are many other sources of information than Scott Kelby and that they are available free except for a little searching effort and time.

Its not your job or mine to castigate the OP. OK, maybe he doesn't think like you and I and try Uncle Google for an answer. You will have noticed that he very quickly got a pleasant and simple answer to his question for which he thanked the person. Seems to me you are trying to act like some schoolteacher scolding a wayward child. Try to remember that we all started somewhere and have learned as we go on.

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Apr 12, 2016 11:08:35   #
Brian in Whitby Loc: Whitby, Ontario, Canada
 
Garyminor wrote:
I have read Scott Kelby's Lightroom CC from cover to cover, more than once. This question is not covered. I also spent a fair amount of time trying to solve this on my own.

It seemed to be a reasonable next step to post the question on this forum. I got a polite and accurate response. Then I got your response. You didn't suggest a manual or other source. You can do better!


Scott Kelby writes excellent books on making photographs but writing software manuals is not his forte.

On the other hand, I have found Lightroom to be quite intuitive but every once in a while I find I need help. Adobe's online help files are a mess. When I go for help from Lightroom, I expect to get help on Lightroom not on Photoshop or half a dozen other software packages that Adobe offers.

For that kind of thing a single searchable document dedicted to one piece of software would be helpful.
Manals are not always helpful. If you want tk learn how to do some task for example, replace a dull sky, manuals will not tell you how to do it. For something like that, you need an instructional book, eithr a hard copy or an e-book. A video might help with an overview but I have found they don't work well for me. I need to go back over things a few times and go through the instructions step by step. For that, a book is the best solution.

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Apr 12, 2016 23:18:00   #
Garyminor Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
BobHartung wrote:
My posts were meant to
1) castigate the OP for seemingly not really trying to answer his own question,
and
2) show the OP that there are many other sources of information than Scott Kelby and that they are available free except for a little searching effort and time.


Being lazy wasn’t the reason for my post. I didn’t realize how good a resource Google was for this type of question. If I had, it would be easier to use Google instead of crafting a comprehensive post, and I wouldn’t have been castigated for seemingly not really trying to answer my own question.

Perhaps my post should have been “Where can I find information concerning…”, rather than “how do I ….” In that case, your second response containing three links to resources would have been more appropriate. I noticed that none of these was a manual. Even the response of "Go to Google: Type in "image order in Lightroom grid view" would of been all I needed.

I have spent several hours reading on line tutorials on Lightroom. None of them addresses this problem. It isn’t that I didn’t want to expend any energy to find my own answer, it's just that I didn’t know how.

I’d like to point out that the title of my post was clear and informative, rather than a general “I need help”. I understand that is one of your pet peeves. Also, I described the problem clearly and completely. I've tried to be a good forum member.

Second, I wasn’t looking for a long and involved tutorial. LarryFG’s response was a single line.

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Apr 13, 2016 12:33:27   #
INshooter Loc: Indiana
 
Garyminor wrote:
Being lazy wasn’t the reason for my post. I didn’t realize how good a resource Google was for this type of question. If I had, it would be easier to use Google instead of crafting a comprehensive post, and I wouldn’t have been castigated for seemingly not really trying to answer my own question.

Perhaps my post should have been “Where can I find information concerning…”, rather than “how do I ….” In that case, your second response containing three links to resources would have been more appropriate. I noticed that none of these was a manual. Even the response of "Go to Google: Type in "image order in Lightroom grid view" would of been all I needed.

I have spent several hours reading on line tutorials on Lightroom. None of them addresses this problem. It isn’t that I didn’t want to expend any energy to find my own answer, it's just that I didn’t know how.

I’d like to point out that the title of my post was clear and informative, rather than a general “I need help”. I understand that is one of your pet peeves. Also, I described the problem clearly and completely. I've tried to be a good forum member.

Second, I wasn’t looking for a long and involved tutorial. LarryFG’s response was a single line.
Being lazy wasn’t the reason for my post. I didn’t... (show quote)

I think the purpose of forums like this one is to answer questions like yours. What other purpose is there for a forum if not for all to learn. Occasionally you get people like BobHartung who, for some unknown reason, make statements like he made which only discourage one from asking questions. I told him what I thought earlier. So I hope we will all overlook "casitgations" from fatherly folks who feel the need to "castigate".

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