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Apr 9, 2016 11:47:21   #
BebuLamar
 
RWR wrote:
Right, and it's generally called the same as well, although "exposure fine tuning" is descriptive. I knew a reporter for Xinhua who employed it to modify the DX setting on her Nikon F5, + for negative, - for reversal film. More convenient than going into the Custom menu and changing the ISO manually.


The function to compensate for different light transmission of the focusing screen is done on the Nikon F4 with a screw driver dial in the viewfinder. On the F5 it's custom function 18. Both of these cameras have the regular exposure compensation as well. While they work the same but not exactly the same is that when you adjust the compensation for the focusing screen there is no indication in the viewfinder to tell you what it is set at. It's transparent to the user. The regular EC would display the +/-EV in the viewfinder and or the top LCD.
On most newer DSLRs there is the exposure fine tuning function buried deep in the menu to let you fine tune your meter. This also works the same as EC but not the same.

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Apr 9, 2016 12:03:13   #
marki3rd Loc: Columbus, Indiana
 
Los-Angeles-Shooter wrote:
It is used in the various "auto" and "scene" modes, and IMO is useless when in manual mode.


No so. As mentioned by another here, exposure compensation adjusts the camera's exposure meter. When in any auto exposure mode (P, Tv, Av on Canon), the metered exposure is applied, so the compensation setting modifies the exposure directly. When in Manual Mode (M) one can use the meter reading to adjust exposure controls (Shutter Speed, Aperture or ISO) accordingly. Therefore, Exposure Comensation is taken into consideration and is not useless at all, period!

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Apr 9, 2016 16:51:20   #
floral43
 
bkellyusa wrote:
I am still pretty new to photography at this level but I work very hard at it and study all the time. However, the one thing that still confuses me is Exposure Compensation. I just don't see the need for it. Why would I use Exposure Compensation to adjust exposure when I can simply adjust any parameter such as aperture, shutter speed or ISO as much as I want to anyway.

Please tell me where I am going wrong.

EXPOSURE compensation allows you to over expose or under expose a picture in specific increments from what the camera believes is an ideal exposure, you can set the incremental value in your menu such as plus or minus values ie -2 through +2. f/ stop [1/3 to 1/2 increments] by cutting a full stop into fractions when you stop up or down you have finer control over exposure

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Apr 10, 2016 18:57:31   #
74images Loc: Los Angeles, California
 
I use it a lot on my Camera's since the late 80's & it has been a useful tool.

I shoot in sunlight, cloudy, & indoors without flash, & if the subject is dark, i'll use EXP COMP to lighten up image, or it if its bright to town down images, I also use it with flash also if I'm outdoors or cloudy too.

74images

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Aug 22, 2017 11:22:49   #
Meganephron Loc: Fort Worth, TX
 
dirtpusher wrote:
camera still adjusts for 17% gray. snow woont be white. be gray or blue. without using it.


Exactly

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Aug 22, 2017 11:49:23   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
On my old film Pentax, the "exposure compensation" control {far right side of dial} was just another view of the "ISO setting " control {bottom of dial}



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Aug 22, 2017 14:07:35   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
bkellyusa wrote:
I am still pretty new to photography at this level but I work very hard at it and study all the time. However, the one thing that still confuses me is Exposure Compensation. I just don't see the need for it. Why would I use Exposure Compensation to adjust exposure when I can simply adjust any parameter such as aperture, shutter speed or ISO as much as I want to anyway.

Please tell me where I am going wrong.


No, it is not exactly redundant.

For landscape, I use spot meter mode, read the important highlights (those with details I want to keep) and add 1 stop exposure in manual mode. For active subjects (birds etc) I will pre-set the 1 stop with exposure comp. It is faster and almost as accurate. I will often meter the bright, then hold the shutter down halfway to lock the exposure, then I shoot away.

My approach to setting exposure is based on the zone system, and it is even more flawless than using an incident meter when used for high contrast scenes.

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Aug 22, 2017 14:27:41   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Gene51 wrote:
No, it is not exactly redundant.

For landscape, I use spot meter mode, read the important highlights (those with details I want to keep) and add 1 stop exposure in manual mode. For active subjects (birds etc) I will pre-set the 1 stop with exposure comp. It is faster and almost as accurate. I will often meter the bright, then hold the shutter down halfway to lock the exposure, then I shoot away.

My approach to setting exposure is based on the zone system, and it is even more flawless than using an incident meter when used for high contrast scenes.
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Gene, I think the OP has been gone for awhile.

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Aug 22, 2017 15:02:05   #
Photocraig
 
dirtpusher wrote:
rarely shoot snow without using it.


Snow and beach scenes are those where a consistent overexposure is required to properly capture the light to white tones. Other shooting situations require a consistent and constant underexposure from what the in-camera meter reads--usually of predominantly dark objects or shadows.

While there are other approaches like using ISO or Manual and choosing a + or - stop from the meter indication. But EC is easier for most of us. It also is the basis for the Auto Exposure bracketing function which is used in similar situations and HDR captures. It is among those features that have been on cameras for a long time. Like all else, they can be duplicated, but for frequent users, and there are many, it is a convenience.

So sure, but what else do you want to eliminate? Shutter cocking, Lens aperture pre-exposure?

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Aug 22, 2017 15:05:50   #
Photocraig
 
bkellyusa wrote:
Why wouldn't you just expose for the snow to begin with? That's what kills me about this feature. it doesn't do anything that you wouldn't already have adjust in manual to begin with.


Because it stays consistent when the light changes because of clouds. It is just one less thing to forget. A convenience. Manual works--always has and always will.

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Aug 23, 2017 06:02:09   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
tdekany wrote:
Gene, I think the OP has been gone for awhile.



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Aug 23, 2017 07:28:22   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
tdekany wrote:
Gene, I think the OP has been gone for awhile.

When has that ever ended a discussions here before?

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Aug 23, 2017 08:51:26   #
martinfisherphoto Loc: Lake Placid Florida
 
You continue to challenge all of the reasons given. If you have all the answers why ask the question. Many different styles to photography. If others don't fit your style move on, stay in Manual mode, stop learning, be happy, stop asking questions....
bkellyusa wrote:
Well, the trouble for me with that concept is that if you are in AP mode it adjusts the shutter speed. If you are in SP mode it adjust the aperture. I don't understand why someone would do that rather than just going to manual mode to begin and have full control over everything.

On my A6000 and maybe other cameras the advantage you have is that if you have an ISO range already set you can sort of fine tune the ISO in the steps between the stops with Exposure Compensation. Other than that the use for Exposure Compensation seems limited.
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