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Apr 2, 2016 23:46:48   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
canon Lee wrote:
what in your estimation is a "real photographer"? I shoot at times when warranted 2.8mm, does this mean I am a real photographer or not? Should I stop using it in very low light scenarios? There are all types of photographers, I for one earn my living as a photographer, & I use all types of lenses in my business. With today's higher ISO even a beginner would take great shots with F4. So if they use F4 and get great shots does that make them real photographers?


You've been trolled... Real photographers MAKE IMAGES PEOPLE ENJOY OR LEARN FROM. Period. Good equipment just makes making those images easier.

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Apr 3, 2016 00:32:24   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Today's cameras reduce image noise more than before.

This fact permits you to shoot at f/4 instead of /2.8 because the extra stop of light becomes unnecessary to reduce image noise.

Save your money. Do not buy f/2.8 lenses unless you can justify that larger aperture for doing your photography.
tbone1130 wrote:
I'm looking at upgrading my lenses to 2.8 lenses but lately have seen some comments that with todays cameras and the increased iso settings that 2.8 lenses are less necessary if that makes sense. Whats the opinions on spending the extra costs for the more expensive lenses. Is there that big of a difference? Thanks

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Apr 3, 2016 00:32:27   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Today's cameras reduce image noise more than before.

This fact permits you to shoot at f/4 instead of /2.8 because the extra stop of light becomes unnecessary to reduce image noise.

Save your money. Do not buy f/2.8 lenses unless you can justify that larger aperture for doing your photography.
tbone1130 wrote:
I'm looking at upgrading my lenses to 2.8 lenses but lately have seen some comments that with todays cameras and the increased iso settings that 2.8 lenses are less necessary if that makes sense. Whats the opinions on spending the extra costs for the more expensive lenses. Is there that big of a difference? Thanks

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Apr 3, 2016 04:25:36   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
tbone1130 wrote:
I'm looking at upgrading my lenses to 2.8 lenses but lately have seen some comments that with todays cameras and the increased iso settings that 2.8 lenses are less necessary if that makes sense. Whats the opinions on spending the extra costs for the more expensive lenses. Is there that big of a difference? Thanks


In some lighting conditions it can make a huge difference.
I shoot classical concerts, indoor with available light.
I was using older bodies, usually at maximum ISO, or near maximum ISO, with f2 or faster primes (wide open).
The one time shooting with a 70-200 F4 (no IS/VR) resulted in lots of failures due to shooting hand held at the shutter speed on the "edge".

With the high ISO improvement with newer bodies I have now switched to a pair of f2.8 zoom lenses (on 2 bodies). A much more efective solution.

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Apr 3, 2016 07:09:53   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
tbone1130 wrote:
I'm looking at upgrading my lenses to 2.8 lenses but lately have seen some comments that with todays cameras and the increased iso settings that 2.8 lenses are less necessary if that makes sense. Whats the opinions on spending the extra costs for the more expensive lenses. Is there that big of a difference? Thanks


I wouldn't spend anything until I understood more about why an aperture of f/2.8 is desirable over f/4 or not.


My advice?

Use your camera...use it, use it, use it....then when it won't do something specific that you need it to, only then think about changing something.

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Apr 3, 2016 11:14:08   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
rpavich wrote:
I wouldn't spend anything until I understood more about why an aperture of f/2.8 is desirable over f/4 or not.


My advice?

Use your camera...use it, use it, use it....then when it won't do something specific that you need it to, only then think about changing something.


This is excellent advice!

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Apr 4, 2016 01:13:50   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Mark7829 wrote:
Good boken is also the result in the number and type of aperture blades (rounded is preferred).


Nope. I've had several lenses with 9 rounded blades and the bokeh is less than desirable - Nikon 28-70 F2.8, 35 1.4, Sigma 150 F2.8. All are rounded, 9 blade. And I have other slower lenses that have great bokeh - 300mm and 600 mm f4. Though nothing compares with my 90mm F2 Summicron. It had 11 blades, maybe straight. Boy do I miss that lens.

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Apr 5, 2016 15:10:06   #
canon Lee
 
burkphoto wrote:
You've been trolled... Real photographers MAKE IMAGES PEOPLE ENJOY OR LEARN FROM. Period. Good equipment just makes making those images easier.


:thumbup:

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