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Mar 23, 2016 10:51:04   #
Voss
 
This is a follow-up from the discussion in "Walk on By" by blackest. I'd like to argue in favor of this as a legitimate Street topic, illustrating our humanity if you will.

The subject is not identifiable; he represents a class of persons. (During this walk, I saw ten or twenty more persons in similar straits within a few blocks of here.) There is no attempt to demean him; rather, it is to illustrate his condition. And the real point of the photo is to contrast the facilities available to those with money (Covered Patio Upstairs) with those who have none (covered sidewalk downstairs).

I would not attempt to speak with him because I'm well familiar with the events that lead to this state, and because for the purpose of this photo, he is not an individual--he is a representative.

As usual, comments and criticism are welcome.



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Mar 23, 2016 12:21:50   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
Nice photo; I like its starkness. I see no reason to question whether or not it qualifies as a street photo. Good job.

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Mar 23, 2016 12:27:38   #
Voss
 
jaymatt wrote:
Nice photo; I like its starkness. I see no reason to question whether or not it qualifies as a street photo. Good job.


Thanks, jaymatt.

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Mar 23, 2016 13:12:38   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
Voss wrote:
I'd like to argue in favor of this as a legitimate Street topic, illustrating our humanity if you will.

The subject is not identifiable; he represents a class of persons. (During this walk, I saw ten or twenty more persons in similar straits within a few blocks of here.) There is no attempt to demean him; rather, it is to illustrate his condition.

The picture absolutely is Street Photography. The question is whether it is ethical Street, or a crutch. It might be a crutch used to make a dramatic photograph that will catch a viewer's eye. The crutch might be the emotional appeal to viewers.

I don't know if there is any way that a crutch is provided for the subject though.

Here's a ditty that describes "his condition", and how that relates to "our humanity".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCdfYkUPvTs

Jesus was a Capricorn
He ate organic food
He believed in love and peace
And never wore no shoes

Long hair, beard and sandals
And a funky bunch of friends
Reckon may just nail Him up
If He come down again

'Cause everybody's gotta have somebody to look down on
Prove they can be better than at any time they please
Someone doin' somethin' dirty, decent folks can frown on
You can't find nobody else, then help yourself to me


Get back, John

Eggheads cursin', rednecks cussin'
Hippies for their hair
Others laugh at straights who laugh at
Freaks who laugh at square

Some folks hate the Whites
Who hate the Blacks who hate the Klan
Most of us hate anything that
We don't understand

'Cause everybody's gotta have somebody to look down on
Prove they can be better than at any time they please
Someone doin' somethin' dirty, decent folks can frown on
But you can't find nobody else, then help yourself to me


Help yourself brother
Help yourself (Incomprehensible)
Help yourself brother

Lyrics written by Kris Kristofferson

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Mar 24, 2016 06:53:20   #
waegwan Loc: Mae Won Li
 
Voss wrote:
This is a follow-up from the discussion in "Walk on By" by blackest. I'd like to argue in favor of this as a legitimate Street topic, illustrating our humanity if you will.

The subject is not identifiable; he represents a class of persons. (During this walk, I saw ten or twenty more persons in similar straits within a few blocks of here.) There is no attempt to demean him; rather, it is to illustrate his condition. And the real point of the photo is to contrast the facilities available to those with money (Covered Patio Upstairs) with those who have none (covered sidewalk downstairs).

I would not attempt to speak with him because I'm well familiar with the events that lead to this state, and because for the purpose of this photo, he is not an individual--he is a representative.

As usual, comments and criticism are welcome.
This is a follow-up from the discussion in "W... (show quote)


It is an interesting shot Voss. The covered patio sign amplifies the man's condition. I like the long lead in to the crux of the scene but at the same time I wonder if the folks in the far background might at drama if they were closer. Anyway I think you got the shot and the PP just about right. :thumbup:

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Mar 24, 2016 07:08:57   #
waegwan Loc: Mae Won Li
 
Apaflo wrote:
The picture absolutely is Street Photography. The question is whether it is ethical Street, or a crutch. It might be a crutch used to make a dramatic photograph that will catch a viewer's eye. The crutch might be the emotional appeal to viewers.

I don't know if there is any way that a crutch is provided for the subject though.

Here's a ditty that describes "his condition", and how that relates to "our humanity".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCdfYkUPvTs

Jesus was a Capricorn
He ate organic food
He believed in love and peace
And never wore no shoes

Long hair, beard and sandals
And a funky bunch of friends
Reckon may just nail Him up
If He come down again

'Cause everybody's gotta have somebody to look down on
Prove they can be better than at any time they please
Someone doin' somethin' dirty, decent folks can frown on
You can't find nobody else, then help yourself to me


Get back, John

Eggheads cursin', rednecks cussin'
Hippies for their hair
Others laugh at straights who laugh at
Freaks who laugh at square

Some folks hate the Whites
Who hate the Blacks who hate the Klan
Most of us hate anything that
We don't understand

'Cause everybody's gotta have somebody to look down on
Prove they can be better than at any time they please
Someone doin' somethin' dirty, decent folks can frown on
But you can't find nobody else, then help yourself to me


Help yourself brother
Help yourself (Incomprehensible)
Help yourself brother

Lyrics written by Kris Kristofferson
The picture absolutely is Street Photography. The... (show quote)


That is a good one by Kristofferson, it reminds me a little of Everyday People by Sly and the Family Stone. :)

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Mar 24, 2016 07:27:59   #
Voss
 
waegwan wrote:
It is an interesting shot Voss. The covered patio sign amplifies the man's condition. I like the long lead in to the crux of the scene but at the same time I wonder if the folks in the far background might at drama if they were closer. Anyway I think you got the shot and the PP just about right. :thumbup:


Thanks, waegwan.

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Mar 24, 2016 08:15:42   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
waegwan wrote:
That is a good one by Kristofferson, it reminds me a little of Everyday People by Sly and the Family Stone. :)

Everyday People hit on "different strokes for different folks", and boy they meant all different strokes and all different folks. They covered the whole range!

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