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Mar 7, 2016 15:59:00   #
Ernie Misner Loc: Lakewood, WA
 
boberic wrote:
If he doesn't need the 250 bucks, he could buy a perfectly good Hoya filter for $100 and send the extra 150 to me.


Don't knock the HD3 PL filter or price unless you have tried it if you do a lot of outdoor photography. It is much brighter than other PL filters and worth every penny if you are serious about your PL filters. I only paid about $150 for my HD3 filter at B&H, however. That $250 price might be for a 95mm size. or at a different retailer.

My HD3 is so bright that I can leave it on well into night time shooting. That was impossible with older PL filters.

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Mar 7, 2016 16:14:33   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
pjarbit wrote:
I use only L lenses from Canon. It drives me crazy to spend a lot of money on a lens and put junk glass in front of it. Be that as it may, I purchased circular polarizers from monoprice for less than $10.00. I tried side by side (10 dollar filter and Hoya) and could not tell the difference. I threw out the samples but they were the same.

Also, don't use circular polarizer on wide angle lenses. They sky will have dark, non-uniform areas from the polarizer.

You said you are a beginning photographer. Spend 10.00 and see if you like it. If you do, you may want to spend some more money.

http://www.monoprice.com/search/index?keyword=polarizing+filter
I use only L lenses from Canon. It drives me craz... (show quote)

The bold text in your comment sounds like the problem is restricted to circular polarizers. In fact, it could be any screw-in filter that is "thick". True, polarizers are generally thicker because of the need to have a fixed and a rotating component.

My polarizer is relatively thin by design, but they achieved that in part by reducing the amount of thread left in front of the filter glass, and that means my lens cap does not stay on very well. The "screw-in" ring is also thin, so I am careful not to over-tighten the filter when putting it on my lens. I generally just screw it in until it is snug, and then I always rotate the polarizing element in a "tightening" direction so that the filter doesn't unscrew accidentally.

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Mar 7, 2016 17:13:39   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
Ernie Misner wrote:
....Check prices at B&H photo or Adorama though. $250 might be the price for a huge size; normal sizes should be cheaper.....


The OP has the 24-120mm f/4 lens. I have that lens, it's a great lens, and it takes a 77mm filter which is pretty big.

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Mar 7, 2016 17:27:07   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
pjarbit wrote:
....Also, don't use circular polarizer on wide angle lenses. They sky will have dark, non-uniform areas from the polarizer.....


A CP on a wide angle will result in an uneven sky. This is not enough for a CP to never be used on a wide angle. The photographer will have to decide if the advantages of using a CP for the rest of the photo will be overridden by the uneven sky. It is a decision for each individual photographer to decide on a case by case occurrence.

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Mar 7, 2016 17:33:02   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
Mac wrote:
A CP on a wide angle will result in an uneven sky. This is not enough for a CP to never be used on a wide angle. The photographer will have to decide if the advantages of using a CP for the rest of the photo will be overridden by the uneven sky. It is a decision for each individual photographer to decide on a case by case occurrence.


You are correct. And reading your post made me realize that I was referring to vignetting more than uneven sky darkening effects when I said any filter can cause a problem on wide angle lenses.

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Mar 7, 2016 18:39:58   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
JohnFrim wrote:
You are correct. And reading your post made me realize that I was referring to vignetting more than uneven sky darkening effects when I said any filter can cause a problem on wide angle lenses.


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Mar 7, 2016 18:40:40   #
henrycrafter Loc: Orem Utah
 
I have a Hoya circular polarizer that I have used for years. I mainly use it to intensify blue skies that are too light naturally. Get a cheap polarizer or a used one if you can. But whatever you do research the uses and practice with one before you spend huge dollars that you might regret.

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Mar 7, 2016 18:59:40   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
henrycrafter wrote:
I have a Hoya circular polarizer that I have used for years. I mainly use it to intensify blue skies that are too light naturally. Get a cheap polarizer or a used one if you can. But whatever you do research the uses and practice with one before you spend huge dollars that you might regret.


Polarizers have several uses:
- darkening the colour of the sky, mostly at 90 degrees to the sun, and enhancing the contrast with clouds
- controlling reflections from water, glass, metal, foliage, even skin and animal fur
- acting as a neutral density filter

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Mar 7, 2016 19:15:44   #
Ikonomos Loc: Adelaide, South Australia
 
Thanks, very good advice.

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Mar 7, 2016 19:23:55   #
Ikonomos Loc: Adelaide, South Australia
 
Thanks everyone for the great advice.

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Mar 7, 2016 19:23:57   #
Ikonomos Loc: Adelaide, South Australia
 
Thanks everyone for the great advice.

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Mar 7, 2016 19:24:39   #
Ikonomos Loc: Adelaide, South Australia
 
Thanks everyone for the great advice.

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Mar 7, 2016 20:53:10   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
Ok, if you do a lot of outdoors photography, you absolutely need a Polarizing filter, preferably a circular one. That being said, a quick Google indicates that the HD3 is designed for 50 Megapixel cameras. Do you have a 50 Megapixel camera? If no, consider another Hoya.

OBTW, as somebody previously said, putting a cheap filter on an expensive lens is a waste of $$.

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Mar 8, 2016 04:22:06   #
Ernie Misner Loc: Lakewood, WA
 
Mac wrote:
A CP on a wide angle will result in an uneven sky. This is not enough for a CP to never be used on a wide angle. The photographer will have to decide if the advantages of using a CP for the rest of the photo will be overridden by the uneven sky. It is a decision for each individual photographer to decide on a case by case occurrence.


Only if the sky is clear and sunny will it be a problem. I use a PL filter regularly on WA lenses but usually shoot in soft light for the lower contrast and saturated colors. Never rule out a PL filter for WA lenses. Also beware of the PL filter if shooting a series for panoramic stitching as the camera is being rotated with sunny skies.

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Mar 8, 2016 04:26:20   #
Ernie Misner Loc: Lakewood, WA
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Ok, if you do a lot of outdoors photography, you absolutely need a Polarizing filter, preferably a circular one. That being said, a quick Google indicates that the HD3 is designed for 50 Megapixel cameras. Do you have a 50 Megapixel camera? If no, consider another Hoya.

OBTW, as somebody previously said, putting a cheap filter on an expensive lens is a waste of $$.


What Hoya is alluding to is that the quality of the HD3 series is super high and safe for the best of todays sensors and optics. I do not have a 50mp sensor and totally love the results and ease of use of my HD3 polarizer.

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