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Feb 26, 2016 22:34:43   #
Keenan Loc: Central Coast California
 
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-worst-business-deals-2016-2

The leading theory behind the triumph of presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump is that voters are attracted by the promise of having a successful businessman running the country.

Government needs the discipline and accountability that only a take-no-prisoners CEO can provide, someone uniquely focused on, well, making America great again.

There’s a lot wrong with this theory: government isn’t a business, for one.

But to accept it, you must first agree that Donald Trump is a successful businessman, which he’s said enough to will the nation into believing it.

A cursory examination of just one part of Trump’s corporate empire reveals that he’s more like a late-night infomercial charlatan, exploiting the weak and the vulnerable for his own devises. He’s also not all that good at it.

If you were to pick the worst possible time in American history to start a mortgage company, April 2006 would get a lot of consideration. That’s when The Donald held a press conference at Trump Tower for Trump Mortgage, right at the peak of the housing bubble.

Just one month later, Ameriquest, one of the largest subprime lenders in the country, closed all its retail offices, an early warning of the collapse to come.

But that April, Trump was characteristically upbeat, vowing that Trump Mortgage would become the nation’s top home lender. He told Maria Bartiromo, “I think it's a great time to start a mortgage company,” adding, “who knows about financing better than I do?”

Trump hired as chief executive of Trump Mortgage a man named E.J. Ridings, a friend of his son Donald Jr. Ridings boasted on the corporate website of being a “top executive at one of Wall Street's most prestigious investment banks” with 15 years of financial industry experience.

All of that turned out to be false; he was a registered stockbroker with Dean Witter Reynolds for a total of six days, and an entry-level loan originator at a boutique mortgage company for a little over a year. Ridings gamely ignored the embarrassing disclosures, telling Money magazine, “Trump Mortgage is going to be huge.”

REUTERS/Jim Young

Six top executives left Trump Mortgage in the first six months. An initial sales goal of $3 billion in the first year was soon downgraded to under $1 billion. By August 2007, Trump Mortgage closed, one of hundreds of failed lenders in the wake of the housing crash.

Unsurprisingly, Trump distanced himself from the implosion, saying he only licensed his name to it, and that “the mortgage business is not a business I particularly liked or wanted to be part of in a very big way.”

Despite that coolness, Trump allowed his name to be licensed by First Meridian Mortgage for a second company, renamed Trump Financial.

That too went out of business; the company reverted back to its original name. First Meridian was subsequently accused of illegally fabricating mortgage assignments to foreclose on properties, and employing robo-signers to execute those faulty assignments.

Trump was not done with the mortgage collapse, however. Twenty years earlier, he helped save a woman’s farm from foreclosure. But a remarkable Los Angeles Times column in December 2007 shows that Trump saw the latest iteration of foreclosure crisis not as a tragedy, but a business opportunity.

Trump University, The Donald’s learning institute, touted in ads that “investors nationwide are making millions in foreclosures… and so can you!” David Lazarus, the Times author, attended a free seminar about the scheme (which was only a preview of a 3-day workshop costing $1,495).

The instructor, himself a foreclosure victim, explained that students should scoop up soon-to-be-foreclosed properties from homeowners at a discount, and sell them to another buyer at a higher price, making a fortune.

This would be pretty terrible advice in normal times for anyone without a high level of working capital, in case they get stuck with one of the properties.

But it’s completely insane advice to give in late 2007, when foreclosures were everywhere, buyers scarce, and nobody in their right mind would pay high prices for a foreclosed property. People who followed this tactic would be guaranteed to fail.

Reuters / Eduardo Munoz

And that’s apart from the moral atrocity of seeing a flood of foreclosures and immediately thinking of a way to get rich off it. “There are unbelievable opportunities for making money,” Trump himself told Lazarus. “There are very few buyers and lots of sellers,” he added, inadvertently explaining why a scheme predicated on eventually selling a home to another buyer is doomed.

Trump University held seminars and workshops like this all over the country as the foreclosure crisis raged, making $40 million in revenue from 2005-2010, $5 million of which went to Trump himself.

Multiple allegations that Trump University ripped off clients led to three separate lawsuits, one by New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman and two class action suits in California.

In fact, Trump will likely have to take the witness stand in one of these trials later this year; he already delivered a pre-trial deposition, which one plaintiff has used to prove that the GOP front-runner threatened to put her into financial ruin if she continued to pursue the case.

Practically everything that might concern you about a Trump presidency is available in these interlocking stories.

There’s the poor instinct and business acumen; the partnerships with lying con artists and cronies; the denial of accountability for failure; the preying upon the weak, whether foreclosure victims or poor dupes that took his seminars; and the open threats of retaliation.

And you can go beyond the mortgage industry to find these red flags in Trump’s corporate past, with millions in losses and questionable associates. About the only thing Trump is good at is getting on TV, and using that celebrity to license his name around the world.

If we’re going to believe that government would be better run as a business, we should at least look at the business of the man who wants to run the government.

And what we end up seeing from Trump’s mortgage and foreclosure dalliances strikes me as so outstandingly awful it would be amusing – if it weren’t coming from someone with an even-money shot at the presidency.

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Feb 26, 2016 22:37:29   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
lol i read that. as Fats Domino would say.ain't that a shame. an an upstanding pres canidate.. lol :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Feb 26, 2016 22:41:16   #
SBW
 
Keenan wrote:
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-worst-business-deals-2016-2

The leading theory behind the triumph of presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump is that voters are attracted by the promise of having a successful businessman running the country.


And what we end up seeing from Trump’s mortgage and foreclosure dalliances strikes me as so outstandingly awful it would be amusing – if it weren’t coming from someone with an even-money shot at the presidency.


What a load of crap post from an insignificant hater and a born loser.

You have no accomplishments in you life. None. Pure loser.



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Feb 27, 2016 07:20:33   #
Opus Loc: South East Michigan
 
When it comes to high end New York City Real Estate Donald Trump is the undisputed king. When it come to playing a part on a reality show he excels. Basically everything else he has touched has gone belly up. It doesn't matter. He can release his tax returns even during an audit but he won't, It doesn't matter. His tax plan will balloon the deficit even more, it doesn't matter. He is a New York liberal posing as a conservative, it doesn't matter. He changes religions as often as he changes wives, it doesn't matter. He hires illegals, it doesn't matter. He claims he will learn all about the things the President should know after he is elected, it doesn't matter. He doesn't really have an plans on how he will accomplish anything, it does not matter. His beliefs change based on what party he is courting at the moment, it doesn't matter.

I could go on for hours, it will not matter. People have made up their minds. Trump has appealed to either their fears, prejudices, or anger and little things like facts or his history don't matter. I have posted a lot of stuff about Trump on UHH, I don't bother any more. The Republican party created Trump the candidate by failing to do anything over the past two years. The Democrats provided the perfect reason for somebody like Trump to rise because they offered us nothing but Hillary. Her history of lying has caused people, rightly so, not to trust her. Bernie Sanders, who I believe is a good man, was never a viable option. The super delegates basically let the party power structure pick the nominee and he was an outsider. Also he asks for pie in the sky stuff that is not realistic.

Nope, the Trump is not going to lose the nomination by being voted down, the game is over. Cruz, who cannot possibly be elected POTUS but will not drop out. I don't know why Kasich and Carson are even running anymore, they never caught on. The only way he doesn't get the nomination is a brokered convention. The question then becomes do the Republicans have the common sense to nominate somebody who can beat Hillary?

If Trump is elected POTUS he owes a great debt of gratitude to Obama. Obama appealed to peoples desire for change. Not much did. Now people want a change in a different direction, thus we have Trump.

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Feb 27, 2016 07:50:29   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Keenan wrote:
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-worst-business-deals-2016-2

The leading theory behind the triumph of presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump is that voters are attracted by the promise of having a successful businessman running the country.

Government needs the discipline and accountability that only a take-no-prisoners CEO can provide, someone uniquely focused on, well, making America great again.

There’s a lot wrong with this theory: government isn’t a business, for one.

But to accept it, you must first agree that Donald Trump is a successful businessman, which he’s said enough to will the nation into believing it.

A cursory examination of just one part of Trump’s corporate empire reveals that he’s more like a late-night infomercial charlatan, exploiting the weak and the vulnerable for his own devises. He’s also not all that good at it.

If you were to pick the worst possible time in American history to start a mortgage company, April 2006 would get a lot of consideration. That’s when The Donald held a press conference at Trump Tower for Trump Mortgage, right at the peak of the housing bubble.

Just one month later, Ameriquest, one of the largest subprime lenders in the country, closed all its retail offices, an early warning of the collapse to come.

But that April, Trump was characteristically upbeat, vowing that Trump Mortgage would become the nation’s top home lender. He told Maria Bartiromo, “I think it's a great time to start a mortgage company,” adding, “who knows about financing better than I do?”

Trump hired as chief executive of Trump Mortgage a man named E.J. Ridings, a friend of his son Donald Jr. Ridings boasted on the corporate website of being a “top executive at one of Wall Street's most prestigious investment banks” with 15 years of financial industry experience.

All of that turned out to be false; he was a registered stockbroker with Dean Witter Reynolds for a total of six days, and an entry-level loan originator at a boutique mortgage company for a little over a year. Ridings gamely ignored the embarrassing disclosures, telling Money magazine, “Trump Mortgage is going to be huge.”

REUTERS/Jim Young

Six top executives left Trump Mortgage in the first six months. An initial sales goal of $3 billion in the first year was soon downgraded to under $1 billion. By August 2007, Trump Mortgage closed, one of hundreds of failed lenders in the wake of the housing crash.

Unsurprisingly, Trump distanced himself from the implosion, saying he only licensed his name to it, and that “the mortgage business is not a business I particularly liked or wanted to be part of in a very big way.”

Despite that coolness, Trump allowed his name to be licensed by First Meridian Mortgage for a second company, renamed Trump Financial.

That too went out of business; the company reverted back to its original name. First Meridian was subsequently accused of illegally fabricating mortgage assignments to foreclose on properties, and employing robo-signers to execute those faulty assignments.

Trump was not done with the mortgage collapse, however. Twenty years earlier, he helped save a woman’s farm from foreclosure. But a remarkable Los Angeles Times column in December 2007 shows that Trump saw the latest iteration of foreclosure crisis not as a tragedy, but a business opportunity.

Trump University, The Donald’s learning institute, touted in ads that “investors nationwide are making millions in foreclosures… and so can you!” David Lazarus, the Times author, attended a free seminar about the scheme (which was only a preview of a 3-day workshop costing $1,495).

The instructor, himself a foreclosure victim, explained that students should scoop up soon-to-be-foreclosed properties from homeowners at a discount, and sell them to another buyer at a higher price, making a fortune.

This would be pretty terrible advice in normal times for anyone without a high level of working capital, in case they get stuck with one of the properties.

But it’s completely insane advice to give in late 2007, when foreclosures were everywhere, buyers scarce, and nobody in their right mind would pay high prices for a foreclosed property. People who followed this tactic would be guaranteed to fail.

Reuters / Eduardo Munoz

And that’s apart from the moral atrocity of seeing a flood of foreclosures and immediately thinking of a way to get rich off it. “There are unbelievable opportunities for making money,” Trump himself told Lazarus. “There are very few buyers and lots of sellers,” he added, inadvertently explaining why a scheme predicated on eventually selling a home to another buyer is doomed.

Trump University held seminars and workshops like this all over the country as the foreclosure crisis raged, making $40 million in revenue from 2005-2010, $5 million of which went to Trump himself.

Multiple allegations that Trump University ripped off clients led to three separate lawsuits, one by New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman and two class action suits in California.

In fact, Trump will likely have to take the witness stand in one of these trials later this year; he already delivered a pre-trial deposition, which one plaintiff has used to prove that the GOP front-runner threatened to put her into financial ruin if she continued to pursue the case.

Practically everything that might concern you about a Trump presidency is available in these interlocking stories.

There’s the poor instinct and business acumen; the partnerships with lying con artists and cronies; the denial of accountability for failure; the preying upon the weak, whether foreclosure victims or poor dupes that took his seminars; and the open threats of retaliation.

And you can go beyond the mortgage industry to find these red flags in Trump’s corporate past, with millions in losses and questionable associates. About the only thing Trump is good at is getting on TV, and using that celebrity to license his name around the world.

If we’re going to believe that government would be better run as a business, we should at least look at the business of the man who wants to run the government.

And what we end up seeing from Trump’s mortgage and foreclosure dalliances strikes me as so outstandingly awful it would be amusing – if it weren’t coming from someone with an even-money shot at the presidency.
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-worst... (show quote)


And what's so wrong with failure.? It's not the failure that matters. It's what you do after the failure that counts. Ever heard of---when you fall off a horse (a failure) you gotta get back on. Personal experience. I got fired from my first job, (failure) I had a 6 year old son, a wife, and a mortgage. Through a little luck and networking and being in the right place at the right time. I got a new job which I loved and lasted for 30 years. I got back on the horse. One more thing-- you are wrong-- Government is very much a business.

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Feb 27, 2016 07:56:56   #
Keenan Loc: Central Coast California
 
boberic wrote:
And what's so wrong with failure.? It's not the failure that matters. It's what you do after the failure that counts. Ever heard of---when you fall off a horse (a failure) you gotta get back on. Personal experience. I got fired from my first job, (failure) I had a 6 year old son, a wife, and a mortgage. Through a little luck and networking and being in the right place at the right time. I got a new job which I loved and lasted for 30 years. I got back on the horse.


It is quite a feat for someone to be able to spin all of the con artistry, scamming, dishonest, corrupt behavior described above as merely business failure. I'm impressed.

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Feb 27, 2016 08:04:09   #
SBW
 
Keenan wrote:
It is quite a feat for someone to be able to spin all of the con artistry, scamming, dishonest, corrupt behavior described above as merely business failure. I'm impressed.


Coming from a loser fool like you that is pretty funny. You would not know success if it bit you in the ass. If you are not making mistakes and failing from time to time then you are not even trying.

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Feb 27, 2016 14:49:54   #
Checkmate Loc: Southern California
 
Keenan wrote:
It is quite a feat for someone to be able to spin all of the con artistry, scamming, dishonest, corrupt behavior described above as merely business failure. I'm impressed.

Like Obama.

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Feb 27, 2016 15:41:23   #
Keenan Loc: Central Coast California
 
Checkmate wrote:
Like Obama.


Well, without being able to back this up with any evidence from the real world, which is usually the case with your useless blather, then the answer is "NO, wrong again"

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Feb 27, 2016 16:06:36   #
SBW
 
Keenan wrote:
Well, without being able to back this up with any evidence from the real world, which is usually the case with your useless blather, then the answer is "NO, wrong again"


Evidence? You ask for evidence asshole? You want evidence? Just look around you, you blind prick. Eight years ago they could have put together a search committee to find the most unqualified person on earth to be President of the US and hussein obama is who they would have come up with. It is gutter trash like you that elected him and it is parasite gutter trash like you that has kept him there. The damage that hussein obama and you and your filthy ilk have done to this country may be beyond repair. Evidence, my ass. YOU are the evidence you imbecile.

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Feb 27, 2016 16:32:15   #
Zophman Loc: Northwest
 
Keenan: will you admit that Trump has had more successes than failures?

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Feb 27, 2016 16:42:34   #
Keenan Loc: Central Coast California
 
Zophman wrote:
Keenan: will you admit that Trump has had more successes than failures?


Trump was very successful at becoming a Billionaire (by swindling, conning, hustling, corrupting, using, scamming, and occasionally just being a greedy ruthless businessman)

Hitler was also VERY successful for about 10 years as well.

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Feb 27, 2016 16:53:54   #
Zophman Loc: Northwest
 
Keenan wrote:
Trump was very successfully at becoming a Billionaire (by swindling, conning, hustling, corrupting, using, scamming, and occasionally just being a greedy ruthless businessman)

Hitler was also VERY successful for about 10 years as well.


You are making some pretty broad and demeaning accusations that I don't think you can substantiate. Can you? Have you ever been a business owner at any level? How do you jump to the "Hitler analogy" so fast? I could say the same about you.

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Feb 27, 2016 16:57:28   #
Keenan Loc: Central Coast California
 
Zophman wrote:
You are making some pretty broad and demeaning accusations that I don't think you can substantiate. Can you? Have you ever been a business owner at any level? How do you jump to the "Hitler analogy" so fast? I could say the same about you.


Have you even bothered to read the article above? The above should have been enough to provide you with enough evidence. You are in denial. There is a lot more that this article didn't even have time to go into regarding Trump's history of con artistry if you really wanted to know about it. But it appears that you don't because you are a Trump supporter and would rather just sweep this all under the rug.

I see this a lot with Trump supporters. Their gullibility factor is usually off the charts.

It was a very similar phenomena with Hitler's supporters as well, by the way.

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Feb 27, 2016 17:09:19   #
Zophman Loc: Northwest
 
Keenan wrote:
Have you even bothered to read the article above? The above should have been enough to provide you with enough evidence. You are in denial. There is a lot more that this article didn't even have time to go into regarding Trump's history of con artistry if you really wanted to know about it. But it appears that you don't because you are a Trump supporter and would rather just sweep this all under the rug.

I see this a lot with Trump supporters. Their gullibility factor is usually off the charts.

It was a very similar phenomena with Hitler's supporters as well, by the way.
Have you even bothered to read the article above? ... (show quote)


Your biased position has blinded you. That coupled with your vile demeanor truly classifies you as an asshole. Your propaganda against Republican candidates and all conservatives is just like Hitler's propaganda against Jews, minorities, disabled and other classes Hitler deemed "not pure". Ergo I can say you are just like Hitler.

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