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Feb 19, 2016 18:45:47   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
There is a fight brewing between Apple and the Dept of Justice to extract data from an I-phone 5c. The phone is the property of the County of San Bernardino in California. They handed it over to the FBI. The FBI can't get past the passcode Apple created. Donald Trump says to boycott Apple if they don't comply. This battle could go to Supreme Court if Apple continues to say No.

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Feb 19, 2016 18:48:37   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
In the past Apple has unlocked phones, now suddenly they won't!

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Feb 19, 2016 18:49:32   #
NoSocks Loc: quonochontaug, rhode island
 
mas24 wrote:
There is a fight brewing between Apple and the Dept of Justice to extract data from an I-phone 5c. The phone is the property of the County of San Bernardino in California. They handed it over to the FBI. The FBI can't get past the passcode Apple created. Donald Trump says to boycott Apple if they don't comply. This battle could go to Supreme Court if Apple continues to say No.


Boycot Apple? I'd rather cut off an arm.

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Feb 19, 2016 18:51:04   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
Complete info on this subject can be found on www.techcrunch.com

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Feb 19, 2016 18:58:47   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
It is a much bigger issue than this one phone. The government chose this case because they expect public support. If they really wanted this phone handled they would have contacted Apple secretly and quietly got it done.

The goverment wants the courts to validate a 200 year old law to allow them to get into any encrypted information and be able to force the manufacturers to enable that for them. The manufacturers couldn't afford to do that for every device a court warrent can be obtained on...so this would force them to make a "back door" and give the key to the government.

I'm surprised Trump screwed up on this one.

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Feb 19, 2016 19:45:04   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
What would surprise me is if Apple, or someone on their team, didn't build in a back door. A lot of other tech companies have done that in the past.

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Feb 19, 2016 19:55:08   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
NoSocks wrote:
Boycot Apple? I'd rather cut off an arm.


In order to boycott Apple I would first have to buy something from them. I have just never liked their company attitude or the way people with their products take on a "I am more with it then you." attitude. Also their pricing. Their reputation for stability etc comes from using only a limited number of suppliers so the OS only needs to work with a limited number of variables compared to PCs. A PC built with well chosen components is just as stable and probably cheaper. A well built gaming or power user PC runs rings around them.

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Feb 19, 2016 22:05:07   #
SnappyHappy Loc: Chapin, SC “The Capitol of Lake Murray”
 
mas24 wrote:
There is a fight brewing between Apple and the Dept of Justice to extract data from an I-phone 5c. The phone is the property of the County of San Bernardino in California. They handed it over to the FBI. The FBI can't get past the passcode Apple created. Donald Trump says to boycott Apple if they don't comply. This battle could go to Supreme Court if Apple continues to say No.


My first reaction to this news was that in instances where a crime has been obviously committed, lives lost and national security put at risk, the idea of forcing the provision of information needed to complete an FBI investigation was a no brainier. Then I remembered this is not the only current high profile FBI investigation where national security has been put at risk and written statues ignored (crimes committed). If a pound of flesh is to be extracted of Apple as the administrator of the required information in case one, what should be done with other high profile administrator who's investigation seems to be moving more like a slow speed chase? Just sayin'

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Feb 19, 2016 23:39:21   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
SnappyHappy wrote:
My first reaction to this news was that in instances where a crime has been obviously committed, lives lost and national security put at risk, the idea of forcing the provision of information needed to complete an FBI investigation was a no brainier. Then I remembered this is not the only current high profile FBI investigation where national security has been put at risk and written statues ignored (crimes committed). If a pound of flesh is to be extracted of Apple as the administrator of the required information in case one, what should be done with other high profile administrator who's investigation seems to be moving more like a slow speed chase? Just sayin'
My first reaction to this news was that in instanc... (show quote)


Apple has nothing to do with the crime or any possible information.

Next they'll want to charge the car rental company with complicity in the crime.

Our country came about because the government of England was behaving this way; e.g. Impressing seamen into their service. Much of our constitution is to protect us from such abuse.

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Feb 20, 2016 04:23:20   #
TucsonCoyote Loc: Tucson AZ
 
MtnMan wrote:
............... Much of our constitution is to protect us from such abuse.

I'm glad somebody noticed.....not that I particularly like Apple.!

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Feb 20, 2016 09:23:00   #
Checkmate Loc: Southern California
 
mas24 wrote:
There is a fight brewing between Apple and the Dept of Justice to extract data from an I-phone 5c. The phone is the property of the County of San Bernardino in California. They handed it over to the FBI. The FBI can't get past the passcode Apple created. Donald Trump says to boycott Apple if they don't comply. This battle could go to Supreme Court if Apple continues to say No.

Then the libs on the SC will support the terrorists and Apple.

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Feb 20, 2016 09:27:45   #
BigBear Loc: Northern CT
 
robertjerl wrote:
In the past Apple has unlocked phones, now suddenly they won't!


They did unlock devices in the past, however, they did not turn over software to another entity let alone the government.

If the government got the codes, who knows what may happen. It isn't like their security is really good.

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Feb 20, 2016 10:42:38   #
SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA
 
robertjerl wrote:
In order to boycott Apple I would first have to buy something from them. I have just never liked their company attitude or the way people with their products take on a "I am more with it then you." attitude. Also their pricing. Their reputation for stability etc comes from using only a limited number of suppliers so the OS only needs to work with a limited number of variables compared to PCs. A PC built with well chosen components is just as stable and probably cheaper. A well built gaming or power user PC runs rings around them.
In order to boycott Apple I would first have to bu... (show quote)


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Feb 20, 2016 11:20:44   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, Colorado
 
I'm actually in favor of Apple, although I have a Samsung. Why doesn't the FBI simply give the phone to Apple, let them unlock that particular device and give it back? It's not about that though, the Fed want's the software to unlock each and every Iphone. Government overreach? You betcha!

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Feb 20, 2016 11:27:03   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
robertjerl wrote:
In the past Apple has unlocked phones, now suddenly they won't!



It's very hard to be the market leader in selling technology to terrorists if they think Apple will share their info!

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