Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.

For years I have been using Honestech Fireman 3.0 CD/DVD Burner, for this task. Occasionally, I have had to re-enter the Product Key to get the programme running. Yesterday, I got screen messages saying that Windows had found a problem...(The 'Burn' programme would not run). Incorrect file format (in respect of the SD Card) was also a stumbling block into getting the images from card, to DVD. I removed/ re-installed the Fireman programme, but it still would not perform. However, I persevered, and used 'Copy & Paste' ...and HEY Presto!!!! The 66 images transferred onto the DVD........... Without the help of the 'Purchased Fireman Programme'. Will now have to look into the SD Card anomaly, starting with a delete process in the camera... "Watch this space" Hopefully my information might help others who hit the same problem burning to disc....Regards...

Capture48 Loc: Arizona

You should be formatting the card in camera, not deleting. What is the purpose of the DVD? It is such an old technology.

Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.

Sorry....... I do format the card in camera...that deletes the images, ready for re-use of an empty card. The purpose of the DVD is to store/call up the images for use in Photoshop. After work in Photoshop, the images are transferred to a memory stick, which works in my laptop, and my PC. My best printer is connected to my PC. My latest edition of Photoshop is in my Laptop. As I am the only one using these pieces of equipment, I don't mind using-up my stack of DVD's. Old technology goes with my also old persona.

Capture48 Loc: Arizona

OK, formatting a disk DOES NOT delete images, it only marks that space as usable again. This is why and how things can be recovered with software after formatting.

So I'm a little confused by your workflow...You move photos from camera to DVD, then work on images in PS, and then move to a USB drive. Do I have this correct? This means the DVD is totally useless in this scenario.

Of course you use whatever workflow you like, but if someone asked me "hey I have a ton of time and would like to double or triple the time my workflow takes, how can I do that?" I would present them your workflow!

Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.

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I have much more room on a DVD, to write identification of the subject matter date etc. than on the outside of a memory stick. The memory stick will only contain worked-on finished images ready for printing. The PC which is connected to my Epson Printer, has a rather unreliable DVD drive, but the USB connection accepts the memory stick (and contents) without problems. The DVD's are not totally useless, as you quote. They would be useless, if I did not use them for anything. They are an added storage /filing base, and were paid for some time ago. I spent a number of years beating deadlines as a Press & PR photographer, in the film only days. I can take my retirement days at more steady pace now. Re- your first comments on deleting and formatting ...I agree up to a point, that formatted cards can have the images 'Recovered' with software (I have done that with Recuva). But those images cannot be recovered if the card is used again, to add fresh images.

Capture48 Loc: Arizona

Your DVD is still unless in this scenario, you are simply using it for storage for what amounts to 10 seconds, then it destroyed. Once you work on the photo in PS, it's a different photo than whats on the DVD that you burned and finalized. This has rendered the file and DVD useless.

A simple USB3 drive that can move from PC to PC is cost effective and simpler. You can pick up a 1TB USB drive for $50. A file name can be 256 characters depending on OS, so if you can't describe a file in that length, you may need to look at your naming convention. You also utilize folder names to help differentiate.

As I said use whatever workflow you like I just see an incredible waste of time in your workflow. BTW if you are planning on using your DVD's for long term storage not only do they suffer from data rot, but in your workflow you are storing an out-of-date file. Get a lit match within 100 yards of your DVD and the out-of-date data is also lost.

These are just my observations, if they don't work for you, great. It may be a flaw in my personality, but I can't observe waste and not comment. In my business I can't afford to waste time or money. Even if I was not in business I would want the most efficient workflow possible. If nothing else it would allow me more time to shoot photos.

Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

You do realize that burnable DVDs are not considered archival media - if you are lucky, you might be able to read them 7 years after you burned them. Hard drives are better, and multiple duplicate drives even better yet.

Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.

I can use the DVD's long after their initial burning, days..weeks..yes, even after years, if I have needed to. The stored images are RAW plus Fine Jpegs . I suppose now, I will be told that is the wrong thing to do! Since 2005 I have also had a back-up of an external drive where the finished images are also stored, as duplicates of the images in the PC & Laptop Hard drives. I have even found the answer to the problem in my initial post. So I'm happy about that. And I have still got commercial work negatives going back to 1959.

Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.

[quote=Capture48]Your DVD is still unless in this scenario, you are simply using it for storage for what amounts to 10 seconds, then it destroyed. Once you work on the photo in PS, it's a different photo than whats on the DVD that you burned and finalized. This has rendered the file and DVD useless.


Get a lit match within 100 yards of your DVD and the out-of-date data is also lost.
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Can you explain the " destruction of images within 10 seconds on DVD's ". Sounds like an episode of 'The X Files' fictional programme. Can you also explain the " burning match within 100yards" as another destruction process. When did you learn of these 'Facts' I've never seen them published elsewhere.

OnDSnap Loc: NE New Jersey

This one I have to follow, (X Files fan) :)

Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

Not looking to argue, but there are many studies that indicate that DVDs are not archival, and highly susceptible to environmental conditions.

http://www.uni-muenster.de/Forum-Bestandserhaltung/downloads/iraci.pdf

If there is any question about long term storage of a particular media type, I would refrain from using it.

That being said, the M-Disk seems to significantly improve on the archival qualities of recordable media.

http://www.mdisc.com/

The US DoD after testing, approves of this for their purposes.

redhogbill Loc: antelope, calif

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Capture48 Loc: Arizona

Wait are you saying the X-Files are not real case files????

Look, I've given you the information. All I can do is show you to the water. I have no issue if you want to drink Kool-Aid instead. I'll just wish you good luck and I hope Murphy never visits.

bee7474 Loc: Selah, Wa

Are you using Windows 10? Some of my old programs are not working with 10.

Jim Bob

What the OP wants with a DVD is his own damn business. Keep your idiotic opinions to yourself.