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Canon EOS-1DX Mk II available for preorder
Feb 2, 2016 18:32:14   #
houdel Loc: Chase, Michigan USA
 
Let the battle of the Titans begin! Canon has set the preorder price for their new EOS-1DX Mk II at $6,299 less a $300 instant rebate bringing the net cost down to $5,999, half a large less than that the new Nikon D5. I wonder how Nikon will respond.

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Feb 2, 2016 19:08:09   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
houdel wrote:
Let the battle of the Titans begin! Canon has set the preorder price for their new EOS-1DX Mk II at $6,299 less a $300 instant rebate bringing the net cost down to $5,999, half a large less than that the new Nikon D5. I wonder how Nikon will respond.


Nikon won't respond.

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Feb 2, 2016 19:25:37   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
houdel wrote:
Let the battle of the Titans begin! Canon has set the preorder price for their new EOS-1DX Mk II at $6,299 less a $300 instant rebate bringing the net cost down to $5,999, half a large less than that the new Nikon D5. I wonder how Nikon will respond.


Once one compares the specs, there is no need to respond.

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Feb 2, 2016 20:19:34   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
MT Shooter wrote:
Once one compares the specs, there is no need to respond.


I know you are extremely knowledgeable about these two brands and strongly favor Nikon, but perhaps we should wait until both cameras are actually available for comparison before we draw conclusions on which might be superior. You better than most should know that specs alone are are not always a good gauge to use. Would it, for instance, make a difference that the D5's ISO goes to 3.2 million if the Canon 1Dx II was cleaner at a more logical 25600 and 51200? Does it really make a difference that the LCD resolution is 2 million for the D5 and only 1.6 million on the Canon? Practically speaking does it make a real difference that the D5 can capture a burst of 200 raw files and the Canon only 170? I'm not suggesting the D5 won't be superior. I don't know at this point. But I sure wouldn't want to base that decision solely on the specs. Not even the 153 focus points vs 61 will necessarily be the game changer. In the end it will be image quality and the AF system that tells the tale.

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Feb 3, 2016 12:11:33   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
I agree with you here. But in my opinion, MT has always had biased opinions. Which doesn't make a lot of sense to me because he sells cameras and I don't think it's good salesmanship to favor one product over another "as much as he does." (I know he's reading this so I want him to see that) I've even read some of his replies where he seems to bash Canon. True, he has come back with another reply stating that he was kidding or that we should have been able to see that he wasn't serious or something like that.

I must admit that I favor Canon over Nikon. I also favor the PC over the Mac and Ford over Chevy. But it's mainly because I know those platforms better than the others. But I don't discourage others from buying what they want. But if any of my friends ask me what they should buy, I tell em it's their money and they should buy what they feel is best for them. But I also tell them if they ask for my help with how to use their new computer or new camera that I won't be much help if they buy a Nikon or Mac because I don't know how to use them as well as I know the products that I use everyday.

I imagine that both camera bodies will be great. It doesn't matter to me which platform a person chooses to buy. Afterall, it's their money. I remember all the reviews over the Canon 70D and Nikon's D7100 (I think). They were very close in specs and I felt they were splitting hairs over how many focal points one has over the other and how accurate the colors were and the noise is and the megapixels etc. My point is that there are many cameras out there that might not have superior specs over another brand or model, but they can produce a fine print. I've got a picture on my wall that I got from a friend who was shooting a Nikon P600 bridge camera. I love the picture and it makes a fine wall hanger.

mwsilvers wrote:
I know you are extremely knowledgeable about these two brands and strongly favor Nikon, but perhaps we should wait until both cameras are actually available for comparison before we draw conclusions on which might be superior. You better than most should know that specs alone are are not always a good gauge to use. Would it, for instance, make a difference that the D5's ISO goes to 3.2 million if the Canon 1Dx II was cleaner at a more logical 25600 and 51200? Does it really make a difference that the LCD resolution is 2 million for the D5 and only 1.6 million on the Canon? Practically speaking does it make a real difference that the D5 can capture a burst of 200 raw files and the Canon only 170? I'm not suggesting the D5 won't be superior. I don't know at this point. But I sure wouldn't want to base that decision solely on the specs. Not even the 153 focus points vs 61 will necessarily be the game changer. In the end it will be image quality and the AF system that tells the tale.
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Feb 3, 2016 13:12:46   #
RRS Loc: Not sure
 
jeep_daddy wrote:
I agree with you here. But in my opinion, MT has always had biased opinions. Which doesn't make a lot of sense to me because he sells cameras and I don't think it's good salesmanship to favor one product over another "as much as he does." (I know he's reading this so I want him to see that) I've even read some of his replies where he seems to bash Canon. True, he has come back with another reply stating that he was kidding or that we should have been able to see that he wasn't serious or something like that.

I must admit that I favor Canon over Nikon. I also favor the PC over the Mac and Ford over Chevy. But it's mainly because I know those platforms better than the others. But I don't discourage others from buying what they want. But if any of my friends ask me what they should buy, I tell em it's their money and they should buy what they feel is best for them. But I also tell them if they ask for my help with how to use their new computer or new camera that I won't be much help if they buy a Nikon or Mac because I don't know how to use them as well as I know the products that I use everyday.

I imagine that both camera bodies will be great. It doesn't matter to me which platform a person chooses to buy. Afterall, it's their money. I remember all the reviews over the Canon 70D and Nikon's D7100 (I think). They were very close in specs and I felt they were splitting hairs over how many focal points one has over the other and how accurate the colors were and the noise is and the megapixels etc. My point is that there are many cameras out there that might not have superior specs over another brand or model, but they can produce a fine print. I've got a picture on my wall that I got from a friend who was shooting a Nikon P600 bridge camera. I love the picture and it makes a fine wall hanger.
I agree with you here. But in my opinion, MT has ... (show quote)


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Feb 3, 2016 13:13:21   #
RRS Loc: Not sure
 
mwsilvers wrote:
I know you are extremely knowledgeable about these two brands and strongly favor Nikon, but perhaps we should wait until both cameras are actually available for comparison before we draw conclusions on which might be superior. You better than most should know that specs alone are are not always a good gauge to use. Would it, for instance, make a difference that the D5's ISO goes to 3.2 million if the Canon 1Dx II was cleaner at a more logical 25600 and 51200? Does it really make a difference that the LCD resolution is 2 million for the D5 and only 1.6 million on the Canon? Practically speaking does it make a real difference that the D5 can capture a burst of 200 raw files and the Canon only 170? I'm not suggesting the D5 won't be superior. I don't know at this point. But I sure wouldn't want to base that decision solely on the specs. Not even the 153 focus points vs 61 will necessarily be the game changer. In the end it will be image quality and the AF system that tells the tale.
I know you are extremely knowledgeable about these... (show quote)


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