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Apr 18, 2012 14:59:28   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
I'm going to visit Howe Caverns tomorrow. I haven't been there in years, so I thought it's time for a return trip. Basically, it's a large cave system with colored lights here and there. I'm thinking wide angle zoom with the SB600 flash. I realize the flash will wipe out those colored lights.

I'm willing to hear any suggestions about lenses and lighting. I have a 12-24, and some Nikon 18mm-and-up zooms. I plan to bring a monopod, too. I'd rather not bring two cameras, as it can be a bit tight down there.

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Apr 18, 2012 15:07:14   #
notnoBuddha
 
Sounds like you have some pretty good ideas. Having never been there I have no idea of how bright the lights are. You may get away with cranking your ISO up to 1600 {maybe higner} and bracing your monopod against something to make it as steady as possible, and using the fastest lens you have. You may want to least try some without any additional lighting - you may be surprised. Okay, maybe not - but you won't be out of much

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Apr 18, 2012 15:10:56   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
It's not very bright down there. I guess they want you to remember that you're way underground. That's a good idea about the ISO.

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Apr 18, 2012 16:45:17   #
renomike Loc: Reno, Nevada
 
jerryc41 wrote:
It's not very bright down there. I guess they want you to remember that you're way underground. That's a good idea about the ISO.


Do they allow flash? Some place don't.

Mike

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Apr 18, 2012 17:44:51   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
renomike wrote:
jerryc41 wrote:
It's not very bright down there. I guess they want you to remember that you're way underground. That's a good idea about the ISO.


Do they allow flash? Some place don't.

Mike

Yes, they do.

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Apr 18, 2012 18:58:15   #
vinnya Loc: connecticut
 
i take it they allow the monopod also i new you could use flash. been along time since i was there

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Apr 18, 2012 19:22:23   #
Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA
 
This was from a small local cave quite crowded conditions - hand held (is set at max) some lighting so I shot bracketing - this was a spur of the moment trip but I am going back when it warms up some around here.
vinnya wrote:
i take it they allow the monopod also i new you could use flash. been along time since i was there

stalagmite shot
stalagmite shot...

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Apr 18, 2012 19:34:46   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Harvey wrote:
This was from a small local cave quite crowded conditions - hand held (is set at max) some lighting so I shot bracketing - this was a spur of the moment trip but I am going back when it warms up some around here.
vinnya wrote:
i take it they allow the monopod also i new you could use flash. been along time since i was there

Very nice. I'm playing with my stuff now to make sure it's ready when I get there.

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Apr 18, 2012 21:47:26   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I'm going to visit Howe Caverns tomorrow. I haven't been there in years, so I thought it's time for a return trip. Basically, it's a large cave system with colored lights here and there. I'm thinking wide angle zoom with the SB600 flash. I realize the flash will wipe out those colored lights.

I'm willing to hear any suggestions about lenses and lighting. I have a 12-24, and some Nikon 18mm-and-up zooms. I plan to bring a monopod, too. I'd rather not bring two cameras, as it can be a bit tight down there.
I'm going to visit Howe Caverns tomorrow. I haven'... (show quote)


Looking forward to seeing the photographs. Have fun.

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Apr 19, 2012 06:37:43   #
bobmcculloch Loc: NYC, NY
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I'm going to visit Howe Caverns tomorrow. I haven't been there in years, so I thought it's time for a return trip. Basically, it's a large cave system with colored lights here and there. I'm thinking wide angle zoom with the SB600 flash. I realize the flash will wipe out those colored lights.

I'm willing to hear any suggestions about lenses and lighting. I have a 12-24, and some Nikon 18mm-and-up zooms. I plan to bring a monopod, too. I'd rather not bring two cameras, as it can be a bit tight down there.
I'm going to visit Howe Caverns tomorrow. I haven'... (show quote)


I did some caves 35? years ago. all flash, came out very well as I recall, no choice back then, I remember 36 ex roll and about 35-40 flashes shots a charge, old Bauer shoe mount flash, thanks for reminding me, Bob.

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Apr 19, 2012 06:56:10   #
Ann B Loc: Northeast Indiana
 
Enjoy your visit -- and thanks for the memories, we went there back in the early 70s & enjoyed it a great deal. Way before I was into taking photography; it was early in our marriage & still using a film camera; too expensive to take photos then expecially on our budget!

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Apr 19, 2012 07:15:06   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
I guess you can use flash but it will be difficult to get it to look like you didn't.

Maybe bounce a bit of fill that's diffused?

Barring that...I'd just up the ISO as far as I'm comfortable, open up the aperture as far as I'm comfortable to get the highest shutter speed combiniation that I thought would yield a good (not blurry) shot.

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Apr 19, 2012 07:31:39   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
The pictures were taken in a mine with a Tamron 18-270mm and an equivalent SB800 flash. I had to watch out for water running from the roof of the mine onto the camera.

jerryc41 wrote:
I'm going to visit Howe Caverns tomorrow. I haven't been there in years, so I thought it's time for a return trip. Basically, it's a large cave system with colored lights here and there. I'm thinking wide angle zoom with the SB600 flash. I realize the flash will wipe out those colored lights.

I'm willing to hear any suggestions about lenses and lighting. I have a 12-24, and some Nikon 18mm-and-up zooms. I plan to bring a monopod, too. I'd rather not bring two cameras, as it can be a bit tight down there.
I'm going to visit Howe Caverns tomorrow. I haven'... (show quote)

Tunnel of mine
Tunnel of mine...

Display of miners blasting in mine
Display of miners blasting in mine...

Florescent rock display in mine.
Florescent rock display in mine....

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Apr 19, 2012 07:38:10   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Ann B wrote:
Enjoy your visit -- and thanks for the memories, we went there back in the early 70s & enjoyed it a great deal. Way before I was into taking photography; it was early in our marriage & still using a film camera; too expensive to take photos then expecially on our budget!

I went there with my future wife in December of 1961. We started from Long Island in my parents' Beetle. By the time we got to the Throgs Neck Bridge, it was snowing. The snow got worse and worse, but we kept going - good little Beetle. When we arrived, the people at the Caverns were amazed to see us. They said, "You must be awful desperate to look at a hole in the ground to drive all that way in a storm like this."

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Apr 19, 2012 08:00:39   #
Kathiehum Loc: CT
 
I haven't been there in years. Hope you post your shots here. Good luck!

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