I was just doing some research for an article and discovered that in America there is no mandated pay for either vacation or statutory holidays.
I'm assuming this means each state, union and/or employer then decides who gets paid for vacation or holidays, but I haven't been able to confirm this.
Would any hogs inform me as to which Statutory holidays and how many paid vacation days they receive each year? No names please, just numbers and your State.
Thanks.
Missouri - Public Education -Set by Board of Education - Most districts provide 10 "sick days".
Thank you. Can those sick days be used as holidays?
hgdexter wrote:
Missouri - Public Education -Set by Board of Education - Most districts provide 10 "sick days".
Keldon wrote:
Thank you. Can those sick days be used as holidays?
Probably not. But I can shed some light on this topic.
I retired from teaching in Rhode Island 21 years ago after 30 years. A common misconception back then was that public school teachers were paid for holidays, but actually, most RI communities paid teachers a salary for a 185 day (give or take a few days) contract. Teacher contracts were not for a full year with two months off for the summer, as was another common perception. Since the contract period usually extended from September to mid-or late June, holidays were not paid for since they fell within the contract period.
In the two towns in which I taught, the contract allowed for 10 sick days per year which could carry over and accumulate to a maximum of 150 days after many years of teaching. I recall a few fellow teachers who needed many of those days while dealing with severe health issues like cancer, etc. But paid sick days were never considered holidays.
Beowulf
Thanks, Beowulf, that's interesting. It seems each jurisdiction operates on their own initiative.
Beowulf wrote:
Probably not. But I can shed some light on this topic. You say you retired 21 years ago; I wonder if it's the same today.
I retired from teaching in Rhode Island 21 years ago after 30 years. A common misconception back then was that public school teachers were paid for holidays, but actually, most RI communities paid teachers a salary for a 185 day (give or take a few days) contract. Teacher contracts were not for a full year with two months off for the summer, as was another common perception. Since the contract period usually extended from September to mid-or late June, holidays were not paid for since they fell within the contract period.
In the two towns in which I taught, the contract allowed for 10 sick days per year which could carry over and accumulate to a maximum of 150 days after many years of teaching. I recall a few fellow teachers who needed many of those days while dealing with severe health issues like cancer, etc. But paid sick days were never considered holidays.
Beowulf
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Shellback
Loc: North of Cheyenne Bottoms Wetlands - Kansas
I worked for a major IT company and discovered that their vacation/sick policy was guided and in some cases, controlled by the state they operated in. Also noted that when working in various countries, the policies were controlled by the country.
The unions had influence, but generally, from what I saw and experienced, the company policy was as generous or more generous than the union required.
We had a total of 11 holidays and as a salaried position (non-hourly), as many sick days as needed (within limits).
When I was working for a small business, I got no paid time off. If the business closed for a national holiday (no civilian business is mandated to close on any holiday), it was time off with no pay for the employees.
Govt positions are different - they close for the major holidays and depending on your role/paygrade sick days were provided at xx per year or unlimited.
According to the Washington Center for Econ. & Policy Research, 23% of all Americans get NO paid vacation and no paid holidays at all. There are no mandated Statutory holidays at all.
Keldon wrote:
According to the Washington Center for Econ. & Policy Research, 23% of all Americans get NO paid vacation and no paid holidays at all. There are no mandated Statutory holidays at all.
Look out! BS Alert.
The Center for Economic and Policy Research (CEPR) is an economic policy think-tank that was founded in 1999 by economists Dean Baker and Mark Weisbrot.[2] It has been described as both progressive[3] and left-leaning.[4][5][6] CEPR is based in Washington, DC.
The organization states that it aims "to promote democratic debate on the most important economic and social issues that affect people's lives."[7]
Some info.
http://www.bls.gov/opub/btn/volume-2/paid-leave-in-private-industry-over-the-past-20-years.htm
Good to know about the Center. Thanks.
quixdraw wrote:
Look out! BS Alert.
The Center for Economic and Policy Research (CEPR) is an economic policy think-tank that was founded in 1999 by economists Dean Baker and Mark Weisbrot.[2] It has been described as both progressive[3] and left-leaning.[4][5][6] CEPR is based in Washington, DC.
The organization states that it aims "to promote democratic debate on the most important economic and social issues that affect people's lives."[7]
Some info.
http://www.bls.gov/opub/btn/volume-2/paid-leave-in-private-industry-over-the-past-20-years.htmLook out! BS Alert. br br The Center for Economic... (
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Keldon wrote:
I was just doing some research for an article and discovered that in America there is no mandated pay for either vacation or statutory holidays.
I'm assuming this means each state, union and/or employer then decides who gets paid for vacation or holidays, but I haven't been able to confirm this.
Would any hogs inform me as to which Statutory holidays and how many paid vacation days they receive each year? No names please, just numbers and your State.
Thanks.
I've worked in construction in Florida for 35 years on many job sites for probably fifty different companies. A minority of maybe five or so paid for holidays and no sick days. We would frequently work four, ten hour days to make up for the pay though.
My opinion something doesn't quite ring true here.
A new member -- says he is doing research for an article.
Uses an outrageous statistic on poor abused workers who don't get paid time off -- sourced from a Leftist Economic think tank (noted in full in my earlier post above) that can only be got to by including part time workers.
Maybe more AgitProp than research? No way to be certain.
Before you buy in, check the numbers yourself.
http://www.bls.gov/opub/btn/volume-2/paid-leave-in-private-industry-over-the-past-20-years.htm
All I did was ask people to say whether they get paid for their holidays or not. My primary focus was on mandated statutory holidays, of which it appears there are none whatsoever. I found that quite astounding and was simply looking in to it. If you don't wish to answer, I thought I had made it quite plain you didn't have to. The facts and figures can just as easily be located on various government sources, I just thought I'd ask my fellow hogs for their experience.
Not everything is a conspiracy, quixdraw. Thanks anyway.
quixdraw wrote:
My opinion something doesn't quite ring true here.
A new member -- says he is doing research for an article.
Uses an outrageous statistic on poor abused workers who don't get paid time off -- sourced from a Leftist Economic think tank (noted in full in my earlier post above) that can only be got to by including part time workers.
Maybe more AgitProp than research? No way to be certain.
Before you buy in, check the numbers yourself.
http://www.bls.gov/opub/btn/volume-2/paid-leave-in-private-industry-over-the-past-20-years.htmMy opinion something doesn't quite ring true here.... (
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Global company
20 days vacation
10 holidays
4 personal days
All paid.
sb
Loc: Florida's East Coast
There is no mandate. Where I work they are only closed on Christmas Day and there is no holiday pay. Most employers offer a standard set of paid holidays, but it is their choice.
I am a member of the IBEW Electrical Union. Each local union negotiates their own benefit package in their own jurisdiction. In my local we have zero paid holidays, zero sick days, zero paid vacation, if you don't work you don't get paid.
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