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Nov 20, 2015 08:35:04   #
foathog Loc: Greensboro, NC
 
CHOLLY wrote:
Zeiss Batis 85mm f1.8 from B&H $1,299.00

compared to

Canon EF 85mm F1.2LII USM $1,899.00

Yep; looks like $200 to me. But only if you use that new math! :lol:

And the Zeiss Batis lens is an Full Frame E mount lens. Smaller than standard lenses because it mounts on a mirrorless camera. Just remember; it's a ZEISS LENS.

Canon L glass is good... but in THIS head to head it can't keep up.
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You better get your quote from someone else buddy. I agree that Zeiss has made great glass but they have also made glass for Sony video cameras. I have one that I wouldn't brag about.

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Nov 20, 2015 09:55:27   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
Where'd you find a $200 difference between the two lenses?

Sony video camera huh? Consumer grade? How did that lens compare to other cameras in it's price range? :hunf:

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Nov 20, 2015 11:45:41   #
sirlensalot Loc: Arizona
 
CHOLLY wrote:
Jason has a couple of videos explain why he has switched over to Sony MIRRORLESS cameras from both Canon and Nikon. He doesn't use Sony DSLRs however.

Gary Fong and Brian Smith however have gone completely Sony, using the full range of cameras and lenses.

Carl Zeiss makes some of the BEST glass in the world. Have been for decades.

It should be noted however, that if you want a Zeiss lens that autofocuses... you HAVE to buy Sony. ;)




Good point on the mirrorless. My bad for assuming we were talking about MILC's.
More familiar with Fong than Smith. Love how Gary Fong touts his own products when he is doing tutorials on Sony. Such a capitalist!
Was pretty sure Zeiss was the best, but to me it was proven in that JL video when he was shooting that old 39' Ford.
Learned something new about Zeiss AF and Sony. Thank you for that,

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Nov 20, 2015 14:51:45   #
Darkroom317 Loc: Mishawaka, IN
 
First I've heard of Jason Lanier. I'm not that impressed by what I've seen of his. I've seen much better work produced by so called "lower quality" equipment including the work of photographic masters. Best is highly subjective and is dependent upon use. While I don't question that Zeiss makes high quality lenses, I question the absolute need for such lenses that Lanier seems to tout. I find that most of the lenses I have used from several manufactures are fantastic.

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Nov 20, 2015 15:41:02   #
TheDman Loc: USA
 
Darkroom317 wrote:
First I've heard of Jason Lanier. I'm not that impressed by what I've seen of his. I've seen much better work produced by so called "lower quality" equipment including the work of photographic masters. Best is highly subjective and is dependent upon use. While I don't question that Zeiss makes high quality lenses, I question the absolute need for such lenses that Lanier seems to tout. I find that most of the lenses I have used from several manufactures are fantastic.


He's a legend in his own mind. He tries to market himself as some sort of elite professional, while producing tripe like this and this that look like they belong on youarenotaphotographer.com.

If you look at the Facebook feeds of actual elite shooters like Patrick DiFruscia or Elena Shumilova, they are filled with world-class imagery. On Lanier's feed you don't get a single world class photo. You just get self-aggrandizing junk like this, where he tries to make it appear that he's some sort of Ansel-like photographic celebrity that people fawn all over every time he's out shooting.

And it's all a sham. I've shot hundreds of photos better than this one that Jason shot in the 1939 Ford video, but have yet to ever have a reaction like his. Yet somehow he fools novices into paying for his 'workshops', which appear to be nothing more than 10 people standing around watching him shoot.

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Nov 20, 2015 15:47:25   #
Darkroom317 Loc: Mishawaka, IN
 
TheDman wrote:
He's a legend in his own mind. He tries to market himself as some sort of elite professional, while producing tripe like this and this that look like they belong on youarenotaphotographer.com.

If you look at the Facebook feeds of actual elite shooters like Patrick DiFruscia or Elena Shumilova, they are filled with world-class imagery. On Lanier's feed you don't get a single world class photo. You just get self-aggrandizing tripe like this, where he tries to make it appear that he's some sort of Ansel-like photographic celebrity that people fawn all over every time he's out shooting.

And it's all a sham. I've shot hundreds of photos better than this one that Jason shot in the 1939 Ford video, but have yet to ever have a reaction like his. Yet somehow he fools novices into paying for his 'workshops', which appear to be nothing more than 10 people standing around watching him shoot.
He's a legend in his own mind. He tries to market ... (show quote)


Figured as much. I can't believe that people actually listen to his "advice."

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Nov 20, 2015 17:39:16   #
sirlensalot Loc: Arizona
 
Darkroom317 wrote:
First I've heard of Jason Lanier. I'm not that impressed by what I've seen of his. I've seen much better work produced by so called "lower quality" equipment including the work of photographic masters. Best is highly subjective and is dependent upon use. While I don't question that Zeiss makes high quality lenses, I question the absolute need for such lenses that Lanier seems to tout. I find that most of the lenses I have used from several manufactures are fantastic.



I think if you saw the video you may agree on the lenses.

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Nov 20, 2015 17:40:33   #
sirlensalot Loc: Arizona
 
Darkroom317 wrote:
First I've heard of Jason Lanier. I'm not that impressed by what I've seen of his. I've seen much better work produced by so called "lower quality" equipment including the work of photographic masters. Best is highly subjective and is dependent upon use. While I don't question that Zeiss makes high quality lenses, I question the absolute need for such lenses that Lanier seems to tout. I find that most of the lenses I have used from several manufactures are fantastic.



Like "best", "fantastic" is pretty subjective also. lol

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Nov 20, 2015 17:42:58   #
Darkroom317 Loc: Mishawaka, IN
 
sirlensalot wrote:
Like "best", "fantastic" is pretty subjective also. lol


My point was that just because a lens is not a Zeiss doesn't mean that in the right hands it can't turn out a perfectly good image.

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Nov 20, 2015 18:20:53   #
sirlensalot Loc: Arizona
 
Darkroom317 wrote:
My point was that just because a lens is not a Zeiss doesn't mean that in the right hands it can't turn out a perfectly good image.



Different subject, but a large degree accurate.

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Nov 20, 2015 19:29:57   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
sirlensalot wrote:
Good point on the mirrorless. My bad for assuming we were talking about MILC's.
More familiar with Fong than Smith. Love how Gary Fong touts his own products when he is doing tutorials on Sony. Such a capitalist!
Was pretty sure Zeiss was the best, but to me it was proven in that JL video when he was shooting that old 39' Ford.
Learned something new about Zeiss AF and Sony. Thank you for that,


Smith?

He is FAMOUS for photographing FAMOUS people. :lol:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Smith_(photographer)

Check out his portfolio:

http://briansmith.com/ and http://briansmith.com/projects-art-and-soul/

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Nov 21, 2015 12:02:34   #
sirlensalot Loc: Arizona
 
CHOLLY wrote:
Smith?

He is FAMOUS for photographing FAMOUS people. :lol:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Smith_(photographer)

Check out his portfolio:

http://briansmith.com/ and http://briansmith.com/projects-art-and-soul/



Very interesting and informative sites. I think Smith is a master of composition and light. Minimal shadows used, but highlights look like perfection to me. Lanier on the other hand, (at least to my eye) seems to use shadows to his advantage for his style. Both produce brilliant images, but I would have to give the nod to Smith on this comparison. His head shots are arguably the best I have ever had the pleasure to view. Good stuff. Thanks.

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Nov 21, 2015 23:18:46   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
:thumbup:

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Feb 26, 2020 00:41:40   #
j45 Loc: North Central CT
 
CHOLLY wrote:

Carl Zeiss makes some of the BEST glass in the world. Have been for decades.


More that just "decades"

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