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Apr 13, 2012 19:59:21   #
dblackard Loc: Rockport Texas
 
Ok, i am going to risk asking this because i really dont understand. I took a series of pictures in different apertures. All pics in 160 ISO, 48mm. now the first F/13 , it says 1/20 sec. the second i changed to 5.6 and it says 1/250 sec. i know how to change the Aperture but how dos the sec. change?? the last two i left at 5.6 but focused more on eyes and it was 1/60 sec. what does this mean. ( i am stepping up from the auto button so give me a break here)

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Apr 13, 2012 20:16:15   #
Wabbit Loc: Arizona Desert
 
dblackard wrote:
Ok, i am going to risk asking this because i really dont understand. I took a series of pictures in different apertures. All pics in 160 ISO, 48mm. now the first F/13 , it says 1/20 sec. the second i changed to 5.6 and it says 1/250 sec. i know how to change the Aperture but how dos the sec. change?? the last two i left at 5.6 but focused more on eyes and it was 1/60 sec. what does this mean. ( i am stepping up from the auto button so give me a break here)


What mode are you using?

At any given iso your shutter speed and aperture make the exposure.

If you're in A (aperture priority) you're choosing the aperture and the camera is choosing a shutter speed to get you an acceptable exposure. When you change the aperture to a larger one your shutter speed will need to be faster. The combination is based on available light

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Apr 13, 2012 20:16:18   #
snowbear
 
It sounds like you were in aperture priority mode, where you select the aperture and the camera picks the shutter speed. The difference in the last two may have been from the meter mode you were in. EXIF data would help you.

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Apr 13, 2012 21:00:11   #
ace-mt Loc: Montana
 
Every time you take a photo there are 3 things that make up the exposure: shutter speed, aperature, and ISO. On manual mode you choose all 3. In aperature mode, you choose aperature and ISO, the camera picks whatever speed will complete its idea of proper exposure. this appears to be your circumstance.

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Apr 13, 2012 21:30:02   #
micro Loc: Texas
 
his may help.

http://www.photonhead.com/beginners/shutterandaperture.php

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Apr 13, 2012 22:10:02   #
dblackard Loc: Rockport Texas
 
thanks, that was good. i understand this but for some reason it never sunk in that since i was picking aperture and iso the camera was picking the shutter speed for me. i was trying to get bokah. but it seems to work better with my longer lens. was using a 18 - 105.

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Apr 13, 2012 22:38:22   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
dblackard wrote:
Ok, i am going to risk asking this because i really dont understand. I took a series of pictures in different apertures. All pics in 160 ISO, 48mm. now the first F/13 , it says 1/20 sec. the second i changed to 5.6 and it says 1/250 sec. i know how to change the Aperture but how dos the sec. change?? the last two i left at 5.6 but focused more on eyes and it was 1/60 sec. what does this mean. ( i am stepping up from the auto button so give me a break here)


it means your camera is compensating for the Fstp changes

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Apr 13, 2012 23:47:20   #
mooseeyes Loc: Sonora, California
 
It is all about the light. A certain amount of light reaching the "film/digital sensor" will produce the perfect exposure for your intended image. Too little light, and you are under-exposed. . .your shadows may block up on you (no detail/info). Too much light, and you are over-exposed. . .your highlights may be blown out (no detail/info).

ISO sets how sensitive your recording medium is to light; i.e., the film/digital sensor. For example, 3200 is twice as sensitive as 1600, which is twice as sensitive as 800, which is twice as sensitive as 400, which is twice as sensitive as 200, which is twice as sensitive as 100, etc. Once the ISO is set, the lens opening and the shutter speed work in an inverse relationship to control the proper amount of light that hits the film/digital sensor.

If lens opening gets bigger (more light comes in), then shutter speed needs to get faster to balance against the larger lens opening. If the lens opening gets smaller (less light comes in), then the shutter speed needs to get slower (letting in more light) to balance against less light let in by the smaller lens opening.

A fast shutter speed lets in less light than a slow shutter speed.

A large lens opening lets in more light than a small lens opening.

Lens opening (f/stop) generally will control depth of field. Large and open, narrow depth of field. Small and closed will render a larger depth of field.

A slow shutter speed will not likely stop movement or action. You will need a fast shutter speed to stop action; however, this will reduce the amount of light. . .requiring a larger lens opening to compensate.

You always need to be mindful of your shutter speed in certain lighting situation, as you may have to use a tripod in order to get what you want. Too slow of a shutter speed will not allow you to hand hold your camera, for the right exposure and a sharp image. Also, if you change your ISO, everything changes. For people learning, I would suggest you stick with ISO 400 until you get a really good feeling and understanding of how f-stop (lens opening) and shutter speed interact with one another.

When you are learning, just always think in terms of how much light is getting to the sensor, and how that proper amount of light is being determined. Once ISO is set, it is all about the relationship between lens opening and shutter speed.

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Apr 14, 2012 05:52:06   #
francesca3 Loc: Sausalito, CA
 
mooseeyes wrote:
It is all about the light. A certain amount of light reaching the "film/digital sensor" will produce the perfect exposure for your intended image. Too little light, and you are under-exposed. . .your shadows may block up on you (no detail/info). Too much light, and you are over-exposed. . .your highlights may be blown out (no detail/info).

ISO sets how sensitive your recording medium is to light; i.e., the film/digital sensor. For example, 3200 is twice as sensitive as 1600, which is twice as sensitive as 800, which is twice as sensitive as 400, which is twice as sensitive as 200, which is twice as sensitive as 100, etc. Once the ISO is set, the lens opening and the shutter speed work in an inverse relationship to control the proper amount of light that hits the film/digital sensor.

If lens opening gets bigger (more light comes in), then shutter speed needs to get faster to balance against the larger lens opening. If the lens opening gets smaller (less light comes in), then the shutter speed needs to get slower (letting in more light) to balance against less light let in by the smaller lens opening.

A fast shutter speed lets in less light than a slow shutter speed.

A large lens opening lets in more light than a small lens opening.

Lens opening (f/stop) generally will control depth of field. Large and open, narrow depth of field. Small and closed will render a larger depth of field.

A slow shutter speed will not likely stop movement or action. You will need a fast shutter speed to stop action; however, this will reduce the amount of light. . .requiring a larger lens opening to compensate.

You always need to be mindful of your shutter speed in certain lighting situation, as you may have to use a tripod in order to get what you want. Too slow of a shutter speed will not allow you to hand hold your camera, for the right exposure and a sharp image. Also, if you change your ISO, everything changes. For people learning, I would suggest you stick with ISO 400 until you get a really good feeling and understanding of how f-stop (lens opening) and shutter speed interact with one another.

When you are learning, just always think in terms of how much light is getting to the sensor, and how that proper amount of light is being determined. Once ISO is set, it is all about the relationship between lens opening and shutter speed.
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I just want to acknowledge your response here ---> You took the time to explain things in way that is probably understandable to the person who asked the question, and you are one reason why I do love this UHH web site. VVN

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Apr 14, 2012 07:37:15   #
Neweagle Loc: Wales UK
 
Mooseeyes, people like me came to the HOG to learn, and its people like you who are prepared to give time and knowledge to us newbies, that help us to learn. Many thanks for a great response to the questioner.
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Apr 14, 2012 08:34:41   #
dblackard Loc: Rockport Texas
 
yes, thank you so much. I read all of this stuff in books, online ect. but sometimes i just need an example of what f stop to use in a certain situation, or what shutter speed to use. that way i at least know where to start. the responses are great, thanks again.

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Apr 14, 2012 09:21:17   #
Wabbit Loc: Arizona Desert
 
dblackard wrote:
Ok, i am going to risk asking this because i really dont understand. I took a series of pictures in different apertures. All pics in 160 ISO, 48mm. now the first F/13 , it says 1/20 sec. the second i changed to 5.6 and it says 1/250 sec. i know how to change the Aperture but how dos the sec. change?? the last two i left at 5.6 but focused more on eyes and it was 1/60 sec. what does this mean. ( i am stepping up from the auto button so give me a break here)


It means that your camera chose a slower shutter speed of 1/60th of a second when you chose the larger aperture of 5.6.

The meter in your camera decided that 1/60th was the shutter speed needed to get you an acceptable exposure based on the reading of the light being reflected off the eyes.

Even if you focused on the hair instead the eyes using a 5.6 aperture ,the camera would probably have chosen 1/60th of a second anyway.

If you took the same scenario, same subject, same lighting, same iso setting and used M (Manual) instead of A. You have the option of slightly changing the exposure yourself in more than one way.

For instance, it you wanted the pic to be a little lighter you could change the shutter speed from 1/60 to 1/50 or 1/40.

Or if you felt that it was too bright and you wanted to darken it up a bit you could raise the shutter speed from 1/60 to 1/80 or 1/100th.

But keep in mind that shutter speed controls movement.

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Apr 14, 2012 09:27:55   #
Hammster Loc: San Diego, CA
 
I didn't see it mentioned, so here goes. I really like, and recommend, Bryan Peterson's Understanding Exposure. He really explains the big 3 (ISO, Aperture, and Shutter speed) well. With plenty of examples along the way.

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Apr 14, 2012 09:34:26   #
projectmom3 Loc: Florida
 
Thank You Mooseeyes! I've been reading these posts for about 2 weeks since beginning a Photo 1 class (digital). The way you wrote and explained it, was better and simpler than the 6 week class I attended. Thanks for taking the time, us (newbies) and not/so newbies (but definitely rusty) and beginning at the basics in Manual Mode (frustration). I applaud you!! :)

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Apr 14, 2012 10:30:50   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
look at this site it will teach you much and it is hands on:

http://camerasim.com/camera-simulator/

go through the entire set of simulations. wish I had had this in 1957 when I first picked up a camera


dblackard wrote:
thanks, that was good. i understand this but for some reason it never sunk in that since i was picking aperture and iso the camera was picking the shutter speed for me. i was trying to get bokah. but it seems to work better with my longer lens. was using a 18 - 105.

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