venturer9 Loc: Newton, Il.

AP FACT CHECK: CLINTON ON GUNS; SANDERS ON WAGE INEQUALITY

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_DEM_2016_DEBATE_FACT_CHECK?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-11-14-23-51-34

Are these Lies Guys... Or just Politics as usual (Lies)

Mike

Opus Loc: South East Michigan

Wait, I thought the liberal media only called out Republicans for lying and gave liberals a pass on everything, another myth bites the dust.

NeilL Loc: British-born Canadian

Must be some typos, Mike. Rixie and Twaddle are always right. They tell us this every day. ( :roll: :roll: )

Opus Loc: South East Michigan

This is an article written by Maureen Dowd for the NY times in 1994. 21 years later the Hildabeast is spinning the same yarn. Hell she is having trouble coming up with new tall tales.

WASHINGTON, June 14— The First Lady has offered a kaleidoscope of images to the public, but today she added the most curious one yet: Private Hillary.

Speaking at a lunch on Capitol Hill honoring military women, Hillary Rodham Clinton said that she once visited a recruiting office in Arkansas to inquire about joining the Marines.

She told the group gathered for lunch in the Dirksen Office Building, according to The Associated Press, that she became interested in the military in 1975, the year she married Bill Clinton and the year she was teaching at the University of Arkansas law school in Fayetteville.

She was 27 then, she said, and the Marine recruiter was about 21. She was interested in joining either the active forces or the reserves, she recalled, but was swiftly rebuffed by the recruiter, who took a dim view of her age and her thick glasses. 'Not Very Encouraging'

"You're too old, you can't see and you're a woman," Mrs. Clinton said she was told, adding that the recruiter dismissed her by suggesting she try the Army. "Maybe the dogs would take you," she recalled the recruiter saying.

"It was not a very encouraging conversation," she said. "I decided maybe I'll look for another way to serve my country."

Mrs. Clinton offered the story to illustrate how far women had come. She said that "it was not an isolated situation" for women to be turned away by military recruiters. And she lauded efforts to bring women into more aspects of military service.

The First Lady's cascading, contradictory images have been the subject of much commentary. This month's Mirabella magazine runs a dizzying array of different looking Hillary Rodham Clintons, to match her blur of different roles, with a story that frets: "We sense that we aren't seeing the 'real' Hillary, and this makes us very nervous."

But, even given the fact that the nation has become accustomed to Mrs. Clinton's intriguing shape-shifting -- from liberal do-gooder to high-risk commodities trader, from power lawyer to cookie baker, from health care czar to housewife supervising the menu for the state dinner for the Emperor and Empress of Japan -- the latest one is still jarring. Macho Contrast to Clinton

First, it presented a macho contrast to a President who had just visited England, where news reports recalled the letter he wrote from there to a representative of the Reserve Officers Training Corps at the University of Arkansas, explaining why many members of his generation loved their country but still found themselves "loathing" the military.

And it did not seem to fit in with the First Lady's own persona. After all, Hillary Rodham was an up-and-coming legal star involved with an up-and-coming political star. She had made a celebrated appearance in Life magazine as an anti-establishment commencement speaker at Wellesley College, where, as president of the student government, she had organized teach-ins on her opposition to the Vietnam War.

She was a Yale law school graduate who had worked on the anti-war Presidential campaigns of Eugene J. McCarthy and George McGovern.

Mrs. Clinton told friends that she had moved to Arkansas for only one reason: to be with Bill Clinton. Years later, she would tell Vanity Fair that she had stayed because "I didn't see anything out there that I thought was more exciting or challenging than what I had in front of me."

She and Mr. Clinton married on Oct. 11, 1975 in Fayetteville.

So, if she was talking to a Marine recruiter in 1975 before the marriage, was she briefly considering joining the few, the proud and the brave of the corps as an alternative to life with Mr. Clinton, who was already being widely touted as a sure thing for Arkansas Attorney General?

Neal Lattimore, Mrs. Clinton's spokesman, said her visit to the recruiter had to be seen in the context of her dedication to public service.

"I'm never surprised when Mrs. Clinton is doing something service oriented," he said. "She was just taking in all her options, saying 'This is where I am in my life, this is what fits into my life right now.' "

But she had moved to Arkansas to be with Mr. Clinton, so why was she thinking about joining the Marines?

"Maybe she was thinking about the J.A.G. Corps," he said, referring to the legal branch of the service. "She was exploring all her options, the National Guard, everything."

wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma

you most likely will have a long wait for a response from either..

green Loc: 22.1749611,-159.646704,20

SANDERS: "People are working longer hours for lower wages, and almost all of the new income and wealth goes to the top 1 percent."

FACT: In the first five years of the economic recovery, 2009-2014, the richest 1 percent captured 58 percent of income growth... That's a hefty share, but far short of "almost all."

wow what a fib!

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

"The Gun Violence Archive has recorded 11,485 gun deaths in the U.S. so far this year, an average of just under 1,000 per month, making Clinton's figure appear to be highly exaggerated. The archive had more detailed data for children and teenagers, showing 70 from those age groups killed by firearms since the Democratic candidates debated Oct. 13 - not 200 as she claimed."

Imagine these puny figures--highly acceptable for the continued health of the gun industry--and making a protest over a measly 1,000 needless deaths a month!


And I quote:

"In the first five years of the economic recovery, 2009-2014, the richest 1 percent captured 58 percent of income growth. That's according to Emmanuel Saez, a University of California economist whose research Sanders uses. That's a hefty share, but far short of "almost all."

In the first three years of the recovery, 2009-2012, the richest 1 percent did capture 91 percent of the growth in income. But part of that gain was an accounting maneuver as the wealthiest pulled income forward to 2012 in advance of tax increases that took effect in 2013 on the biggest earners."

O Gee, and here I thought something Radical was going on!

How many years will it be until the one per cent makes ALL the income?

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

Wow, what a fib indeed! I am indignant to the point of anger!

The one percent captured ONLY 58 percent of the growth? Only?

One percent makes 58% of the gain; ninety-nine percent makes 42 percent of the gain?

How much of the total do you thing is excessive for the one percent?

How much of the total gain must the one percent gain before you think things are unfair?

Really?

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

Well old buddy, how many needless deaths a month do you conside reasonable?

How much would the one percent have to take ('earn' is not the word) before YOU get concerned.

[Let me guess: you will NEVER answer these questions.]

yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon

Five years of the obama economy. Thanks for pointing that out.

yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon

A total of eight guns shut down France. Wake up.

skylane5sp Loc: Puyallup, WA

What "economic recovery" would you be referring to? We all must have missed the memo.

NeilL Loc: British-born Canadian

I gave up considing for the winter, so I can't answer your question.

wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma

dang Neill, Glad to see you & Twatsie are "old buddies"...some circle of friends you have now...LOL