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Oct 22, 2015 08:42:12   #
toast
 
I'm considering buying one of these cameras. Looks like the 5D 3 would cost about a thousand more than the 6D. Is the 5D that much better than the 6D that it warrants an extra grand?

I plan on shooting still shots as well as sports. Thoughts?

Also curious if Canon is planning on a 5D Mark 4? If so when would it be out and how would this affect the price of the 5D 3?

Gratitude :)

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Oct 22, 2015 08:54:21   #
SnappyHappy Loc: Chapin, SC “The Capitol of Lake Murray”
 
The 5Diii has a much better focus system and a higher frame rate which are both very important in action photography.

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Oct 22, 2015 09:05:43   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
toast wrote:
I'm considering buying one of these cameras. Looks like the 5D 3 would cost about a thousand more than the 6D. Is the 5D that much better than the 6D that it warrants an extra grand?

I plan on shooting still shots as well as sports. Thoughts?

Also curious if Canon is planning on a 5D Mark 4? If so when would it be out and how would this affect the price of the 5D 3?

Gratitude :)

As has been said many times- it depends. If you sell your work go with top of the line. It will pay for itself. If not, a bunch of questions only you can answer- How important is that 1,000 bucks to you? Is sports your main focus(7dmk2)? Do you plan to do portraits(doesn't matter that much)? Do you have a lot of Canon glass (put the extra cash into lenses)? If not Why Canon in the first place? Do you plan to print large(Nikon 810)?. Also consider this- it ain't the gear ,it's the shooter that really matters. Just my opinion. One other thing with regard to the 5d4- when any new model is released the older one sells for less.

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Oct 22, 2015 09:06:32   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
toast wrote:
I'm considering buying one of these cameras. Looks like the 5D 3 would cost about a thousand more than the 6D. Is the 5D that much better than the 6D that it warrants an extra grand?

I plan on shooting still shots as well as sports. Thoughts?

Also curious if Canon is planning on a 5D Mark 4? If so when would it be out and how would this affect the price of the 5D 3?

Gratitude :)


The 6D is very stripped down in comparison to the 5D, if your passion is sports then the 5D is the better camera, I have the 6D and love it for landscape and night skys etc, but for sports and birding I made the investment for a 7D markII which you may also want to consider. Not nearly as good with high ISO's as the full frame cameras, but beats even the 5D for action shots, 10 fps and because of the crop your lenses effectively become much longer.

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Oct 22, 2015 10:09:41   #
toast
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
The 6D is very stripped down in comparison to the 5D, if your passion is sports then the 5D is the better camera, I have the 6D and love it for landscape and night skys etc, but for sports and birding I made the investment for a 7D markII which you may also want to consider. Not nearly as good with high ISO's as the full frame cameras, but beats even the 5D for action shots, 10 fps and because of the crop your lenses effectively become much longer.


I have a 7D. I really want the better ISO performance of the full frame cameras. Most gyms have terrible lighting and I don't like the noise/grain I get when I turn up the ISO. (which is necessary to freeze action which requires a shutter at a minimum of 1/640 I have found)

Is the reach really that big of a difference between full frame and APS-C sensor? The lens I use for sports is the Canon 70-200mm L.

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Oct 22, 2015 10:34:24   #
PaulR01 Loc: West Texas
 
I am not real happy with my 6D, lack of ETL flash settings, slow focus system. Not much customization. Its pretty stripped down. If you get a shot in focus the end product is fabulous. Just don't shoot in low light. I am waiting for the 5D Markiv to make an appearance before I upgrade my 6D. My 7Dii out performs the 6D on many levels.

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Oct 22, 2015 13:52:09   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
toast wrote:
I'm considering buying one of these cameras. Looks like the 5D 3 would cost about a thousand more than the 6D. Is the 5D that much better than the 6D that it warrants an extra grand?

I plan on shooting still shots as well as sports. Thoughts?

Also curious if Canon is planning on a 5D Mark 4? If so when would it be out and how would this affect the price of the 5D 3?

Gratitude :)


If you are going to own one camera and do everything, including action then get the 5DmkIII. I use a 6D and a 7DmkII.
I see ads for the 5DmkIII for less than I paid for my 6D and 24-105L in Nov 2013.
The 5DmkIII also has weather sealing and other things to make it tougher and more durable. The 6D is tougher and better than the Rebel line but not to anywhere near the level of the 5 or my 7.
Image wise, the 5 has 2 more megapixels but the 6 shades it a bit in low light. The 5 has a much better AF system. You can do action etc with the 6D by using the old fashioned techniques from the days before AF. But a really good AF system makes it so much easier.

Besides rumors of a 5DmkIV next year there are also rumors of a 6DmkII that will have an upgraded AF and more megapixels

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Oct 22, 2015 14:21:01   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
toast wrote:
I have a 7D. I really want the better ISO performance of the full frame cameras. Most gyms have terrible lighting and I don't like the noise/grain I get when I turn up the ISO. (which is necessary to freeze action which requires a shutter at a minimum of 1/640 I have found)

Is the reach really that big of a difference between full frame and APS-C sensor? The lens I use for sports is the Canon 70-200mm L.


Shooting sports in a gym there are several things I would want:
A fast, not too long, zoom. If your 70-200 is a 2.8 then you should be covered there.
A body with good low light performance. The 6D is only slightly better then the 5DIII in that regard. Little enough that they are probably pretty equal.
A good frame rate. The 5DIII tops the 6D.
Something to consider: the 7DII does not have the low light/high ISO capability of the 6D or 5DIII. Possibly not a factor if the gym is reasonably well lit. It does have superior auto focus and frame rate. It also has something neither of the other two have: anti-flicker capability. Because AC electricity cycles back and forth many types of lighting flicker in time with the cycles. We can't detect it but a photo can have it's exposure affected. That is why professionals set up their own strobes at many indoor events. The 7DII eliminates the problems of flicker. A handy feature if you shoot indoors a lot.
For dedicated sports, so long as the lighting is not too bad, I would always take my 7DII over anything else Canon makes. Except for the 1DX! Otherwise I would take the 5DIII over my 6D.

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Oct 22, 2015 15:31:03   #
toast
 
LFingar wrote:
Shooting sports in a gym there are several things I would want:
A fast, not too long, zoom. If your 70-200 is a 2.8 then you should be covered there.
A body with good low light performance. The 6D is only slightly better then the 5DIII in that regard. Little enough that they are probably pretty equal.
A good frame rate. The 5DIII tops the 6D.
Something to consider: the 7DII does not have the low light/high ISO capability of the 6D or 5DIII. Possibly not a factor if the gym is reasonably well lit. It does have superior auto focus and frame rate. It also has something neither of the other two have: anti-flicker capability. Because AC electricity cycles back and forth many types of lighting flicker in time with the cycles. We can't detect it but a photo can have it's exposure affected. That is why professionals set up their own strobes at many indoor events. The 7DII eliminates the problems of flicker. A handy feature if you shoot indoors a lot.
For dedicated sports, so long as the lighting is not too bad, I would always take my 7DII over anything else Canon makes. Except for the 1DX! Otherwise I would take the 5DIII over my 6D.
Shooting sports in a gym there are several things ... (show quote)


Thanks for the input, this is helping! So are you saying the 7D11 has a better auto focus system compared to the 5D111? And if so is it substantially better? I was kinda thinking the 5D111 had a pretty good auto focusing system. Again, I'm concerned about getting action shots. Thanks!!

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Oct 22, 2015 15:51:41   #
PaulR01 Loc: West Texas
 
toast wrote:
Thanks for the input, this is helping! So are you saying the 7D11 has a better auto focus system compared to the 5D111? And if so is it substantially better? I was kinda thinking the 5D111 had a pretty good auto focusing system. Again, I'm concerned about getting action shots. Thanks!!

I have shot both the 7Dii tracks a moving target better in servo mode than the 5DIII. A 6D tracks but you loose a high percentage of shots due to being out of focus. Currently I am shooting a lot of football. I have a EF 300 f 2.8 on my 7Dii and my 6D I have a 70-200 f 2.8 IS ii on the body. Unless the subject is coming straight at me I stay on the 7Dii as long as can. The 6D wont pick up the focus on a quick draw on the first shot in low light.
The 5Diii has a better IQ than the 7Dii and focuses almost as good with a moving subject. If what you are shooting is stationary the 5D III hands down is the better camera. And can handle most shooting situations for a pro photog

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Oct 22, 2015 15:54:45   #
haroldross Loc: Walthill, Nebraska
 
toast wrote:
Thanks for the input, this is helping! So are you saying the 7D11 has a better auto focus system compared to the 5D111? And if so is it substantially better? I was kinda thinking the 5D111 had a pretty good auto focusing system. Again, I'm concerned about getting action shots. Thanks!!


Yes and no. This link does a good job of contrasting the Canon AF systems of the 5D MK III, 1Dx and 7D MK II.

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Comparisons/Canon-EOS-7D-II-1D-X-5D-III-AF-Comparison.aspx

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Oct 22, 2015 16:35:51   #
toast
 
PaulR01 wrote:
I have shot both the 7Dii tracks a moving target better in servo mode than the 5DIII. A 6D tracks but you loose a high percentage of shots due to being out of focus. Currently I am shooting a lot of football. I have a EF 300 f 2.8 on my 7Dii and my 6D I have a 70-200 f 2.8 IS ii on the body. Unless the subject is coming straight at me I stay on the 7Dii as long as can. The 6D wont pick up the focus on a quick draw on the first shot in low light.
The 5Diii has a better IQ than the 7Dii and focuses almost as good with a moving subject. If what you are shooting is stationary the 5D III hands down is the better camera. And can handle most shooting situations for a pro photog
I have shot both the 7Dii tracks a moving target b... (show quote)


Very helpful…Thank You!

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Oct 22, 2015 16:36:30   #
toast
 
haroldross wrote:
Yes and no. This link does a good job of contrasting the Canon AF systems of the 5D MK III, 1Dx and 7D MK II.

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Comparisons/Canon-EOS-7D-II-1D-X-5D-III-AF-Comparison.aspx


Going to check that out! Thank You!

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Oct 22, 2015 21:19:58   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
toast wrote:
Thanks for the input, this is helping! So are you saying the 7D11 has a better auto focus system compared to the 5D111? And if so is it substantially better? I was kinda thinking the 5D111 had a pretty good auto focusing system. Again, I'm concerned about getting action shots. Thanks!!


The 5DIII has a very good auto focus system. The 7DII has an excellent auto focus. The 7DII has the latest in auto focus and was designed with sports/action photography in mind. I have never shot the 5DIII, but from talking to people who have and things read on line, I believe it is safe to say that the 7DII is the better sports camera, unless low light is really an issue. The 7DII offers a world of auto focus options to get exactly the performance you want. Five screens in the menu. I'm still experimenting! I really like my 6D but for sports I would definitely put it in last place compared to the other two. As far as the 5DIII and the 7DII, if you can live with ISO of 6400 or less (even 6400 may be pushing it, depending on how you shoot and your expectations, as well as your pp'ing skills), then I would go with the 7DII.

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Oct 22, 2015 22:39:35   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
This discussion may help you decide:


http://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/6d/vs-5d-mark-iii.htm
toast wrote:
I'm considering buying one of these cameras. Looks like the 5D 3 would cost about a thousand more than the 6D. Is the 5D that much better than the 6D that it warrants an extra grand?

I plan on shooting still shots as well as sports. Thoughts?

Also curious if Canon is planning on a 5D Mark 4? If so when would it be out and how would this affect the price of the 5D 3?

Gratitude :)

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