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Oct 2, 2015 14:18:39   #
lev29 Loc: Born and living in MA.
 
Hello! Although my questions pertain only to the Li+ ion batteries used in Sony A-mount and E-mount cameras, it should not be limited to cameras of that brand. I suggest that this thread has as its aim the following to ask and/or answer questions pertaining to BATTERY QUALITY, such as: 1. does it lose its charge inside the camera even when the latter is turned off?; 2. how well does it hold its charge when stored after having received a full recharging?; 3. how quickly does it recharge?; 4. do any batteries tend to lose their ability to be rechargeable after a seemingly short period of time?; 5. in relative terms, just how good are any of the less costly 3rd party compatible batteries?

Regarding the Sony NP-FW50 battery used in my A55 camera and all current E-mt cameras, I've read some observations that the battery is "leaky." I had one dud that lost its ability to be recharged after only a few cycles. I've tried a couple different 3rd party compatible batteries and thus far, the Patona brand seems to be the quality winner at less cost than the original, though the jury is still out.

So, please, join in, discuss amongst yourselves. I'm Verklempt!
lev29 😃

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Oct 2, 2015 14:27:58   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Charge it freeze it until use.

There is nothing worse than a battery that is not used slowly discharging through chemical breakdown.

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Oct 2, 2015 14:46:58   #
Joanna27 Loc: Lakewood Ca
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Charge it freeze it until use.

There is nothing worse than a battery that is not used slowly discharging through chemical breakdown.


What about battery life when I don't have a refrigerator available?

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Oct 2, 2015 14:55:32   #
Ched49 Loc: Pittsburgh, Pa.
 
I wouldn't buy 3rd party batteries even though they cost less. Always use batteries made for your particular camera. When fully charged batteries are in the camera, they still have to run things like the date and time. When not being used, they still lose charge very slowly. I'm still using my original rechargeable battery for my 5 year DSLR, takes less than a hour to charge and I'm good for about 350 photo's.

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Oct 2, 2015 15:11:30   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Joanna27 wrote:
What about battery life when I don't have a refrigerator available?

Shorter than advertised, genuine or not.

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Oct 2, 2015 15:25:16   #
Ched49 Loc: Pittsburgh, Pa.
 
Joanna27 wrote:
What about battery life when I don't have a refrigerator available?
Contrary to popular belief...batteries do not hold a charge longer when stored in a refrigerator, that's why most car batteries die at the first sign of freezing weather.

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Oct 2, 2015 15:52:13   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
cjkorb wrote:
Contrary to popular belief...batteries do not hold a charge longer when stored in a refrigerator, that's why most car batteries die at the first sign of freezing weather.

Tell that to my batteries. They did not get the message not to work.

As to not working when frozen? Absolutely correct, the chemical reaction is killed by the cold. Warm the battery up and...

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Oct 2, 2015 15:57:34   #
Rbode Loc: Ft lauderdale, Fla
 
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/

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Oct 2, 2015 16:07:36   #
Ched49 Loc: Pittsburgh, Pa.
 
Maybe I'm missing something...Old batteries die at the first sign of cold weather, it doesn't have to be freezing. If cold preserves the charge, why don't auto parts stores put them in refrigerators?

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Oct 2, 2015 17:49:46   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
cjkorb wrote:
Maybe I'm missing something...Old batteries die at the first sign of cold weather, it doesn't have to be freezing. If cold preserves the charge, why don't auto parts stores put them in refrigerators?

err... We are not talking about car batteries here!!!

As to old car batteires dying... this is normal. The cold weather allows for the deposits* created while the chemical reaction takes place to enter in contact with the electrodes and bzzzt!!!! No more anything, just a heavy (in more than one way) door step.

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* A chemist would be better suited than I to tell you the molecular compound you are dealing with but it is conductive due to the acid that is around and within it.

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Oct 3, 2015 01:35:45   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
cjkorb wrote:
Maybe I'm missing something...Old batteries die at the first sign of cold weather, it doesn't have to be freezing. If cold preserves the charge, why don't auto parts stores put them in refrigerators?


Get real, cj. Are you using lead acid batteries in your camera? :roll:

As for never having a failure with your name brand batteries, that's good but not enough to convince me to never buy third party. I've never had a Bridgestone tire blow out so I should never buy Michelins?

I have used Wasabi batteries in four DSLR's, a portable printer and a couple of compact cameras for three years. They usually sell two batteries with a charger for the price of a single Nikon battery. I've never had a battery failure, rapid discharge, swelling, leaking or communication problems and they have higher mah ratings than the Nikons. So I should never buy Nikons?

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Oct 3, 2015 06:42:21   #
Mark7829 Loc: Calfornia
 
I have a mix of Nikon and Wasabi. I hate the Wasabi. They discharge faster - just my observation. As for those with EVF you get 350 shots per battery, and likely less with you using the LCD exclusively or video. With my Nikon I get over 1000 shots. Canon likely the same.

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Oct 3, 2015 07:09:05   #
A.J.R. Loc: Devon, UK
 
I have never used 3rd party batteries (and have never had any problems), but have considered Wasabi because of Gary Friedman's comment his guide book on the Sony A6000, where he says they "only hold about 85% as much power as the Sony battery, but at this price, who cares?"

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Oct 3, 2015 07:32:46   #
Peekayoh Loc: UK
 
A.J.R. wrote:
I have never used 3rd party batteries (and have never had any problems), but have considered Wasabi because of Gary Friedman's comment his guide book on the Sony A6000, where he says they "only hold about 85% as much power as the Sony battery, but at this price, who cares?"
Certainly not I. :thumbup:

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Oct 3, 2015 07:34:51   #
Peekayoh Loc: UK
 
Mark7829 wrote:
I have a mix of Nikon and Wasabi. I hate the Wasabi. They discharge faster - just my observation. As for those with EVF you get 350 shots per battery, and likely less with you using the LCD exclusively or video. With my Nikon I get over 1000 shots. Canon likely the same.
Your point being what exactly?

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