Your opinion about lighting.
Sep 21, 2015 15:04:23 #
dandi
Loc: near Seattle, WA
I playing/experimenting with different types of on camera flash diffusers and bounce cards. Would you give me your opinion about the light on these two photos of my grandson? Thank you.
Sep 21, 2015 15:37:00 #
#1 direct flash on camera creates the shadows you see under the kid's chin. These are hard to correct.
#2 is better but the flash is still on camera and harsh. What changed was the position of the kid's head. The shadows inside the mouth nose and the ears are still too strong.
On both, while the captures are properly exposed the flash is capturing more than you intent though the skin transparency. This is why the skin appears to be blotched in some areas and why the bags under his eyes are so pronounced.
#2 is better but the flash is still on camera and harsh. What changed was the position of the kid's head. The shadows inside the mouth nose and the ears are still too strong.
On both, while the captures are properly exposed the flash is capturing more than you intent though the skin transparency. This is why the skin appears to be blotched in some areas and why the bags under his eyes are so pronounced.
Sep 21, 2015 15:48:54 #
The light falling on the child in the second example looks very natural - as if the light is coming through a window.
The first example, although quite good, looks as if the lighting is coming straight on from the direction of the viewer, as suggested by the hard shadow beneath the chin. Compared to the second image, it appears more like a flash was used.
The first example, although quite good, looks as if the lighting is coming straight on from the direction of the viewer, as suggested by the hard shadow beneath the chin. Compared to the second image, it appears more like a flash was used.
Sep 21, 2015 15:50:10 #
dandi
Loc: near Seattle, WA
Rongnongno wrote:
#1 direct flash on camera creates the shadows you ... (show quote)
Thank you. Do you think if I put the flash on the bracket with some diffuser would make it a little softer? Or off-camera flash is the way to go to achieve the soft light?
It's hard to chase 4 years old with off-camera flash.
Sep 21, 2015 16:07:44 #
Dandi, I think both your photos are very good, in real life
there are shadows, they can't be avoided, could you make
the photos less realistic, yes. Shadows are a fact of life if
you want realistic photographs, well done.
there are shadows, they can't be avoided, could you make
the photos less realistic, yes. Shadows are a fact of life if
you want realistic photographs, well done.
Sep 21, 2015 16:21:34 #
dandi wrote:
.../...It's hard to chase 4 years old with off-camera flash.
You got that right.
What do you mean, "on a bracket"? Off camera? (above or aside)
If you have a 'tilt head' flash use that with a diffuser, that would greatly reduce the problems.
Many folks use the ceiling as a 'bounce'. There is only one trouble with that: you must be sure that the ceiling is white or color neutral (like grey).
Another solution is to use a pack of crackers and create a reflection board out of that using tin foil glue to it (cheapest) or a commercial gizmo.
Sep 21, 2015 16:23:31 #
dandi
Loc: near Seattle, WA
rook2c4 wrote:
The light falling on the child in the second example looks very natural - as if the light is coming through a window.
The first example, although quite good, looks as if the lighting is coming straight on from the direction of the viewer, as suggested by the hard shadow beneath the chin. Compared to the second image, it appears more like a flash was used.
The first example, although quite good, looks as if the lighting is coming straight on from the direction of the viewer, as suggested by the hard shadow beneath the chin. Compared to the second image, it appears more like a flash was used.
Thank you for your comments.
Sep 21, 2015 16:36:01 #
dandi
Loc: near Seattle, WA
Rongnongno wrote:
You got that right. br br What do you mean, "... (show quote)
I am trying something like this :
http://super.nova.org/DPR/DIY01/
http://improvephotography.com/3417/how-to-make-a-simple-flash-diffuser-for-free/
It's fun to play with this, the problem is -everybody around the house is running away from me when they see me grabbing my camera, even grandkids :)
Sep 21, 2015 16:37:49 #
dandi
Loc: near Seattle, WA
ebbote wrote:
Shadows are a fact of life if
you want realistic photographs, well done.
you want realistic photographs, well done.
Good point, appreciate your comment.
Sep 21, 2015 17:28:12 #
dandi wrote:
.../...It's fun to play with this, the problem is -everybody around the house is running away from me when they see me grabbing my camera, even grandkids :)
I'll be running away too!!!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Sep 21, 2015 17:42:46 #
dandi
Loc: near Seattle, WA
Rongnongno wrote:
I'll be running away too!!!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I don't blame you :).
Sep 22, 2015 09:31:51 #
Its a real nice picture but it is too flat would love to see more shadows and skin tone
Sep 22, 2015 13:15:51 #
dandi
Loc: near Seattle, WA
LennyP4868 wrote:
Its a real nice picture but it is too flat would love to see more shadows and skin tone
What do you think about this image, any better?
Sep 22, 2015 13:24:51 #
Sep 22, 2015 13:28:24 #
My suggestion would be to have the child sit near a window with natural lighting coming in from the side or at a quarter angle....perhaps diffused somewhat by sheer curtains. Experiment with exposures and apertures and review your work. When you have determined which pleases you most, then go with it. Also, a passing thought.... pay close attention to the background. It can produce unwanted interference and often overpower the main subject.
There are as many opinions as there are possibilities, but this is MY suggestion. Natural light can often produce dramatic results.
There are as many opinions as there are possibilities, but this is MY suggestion. Natural light can often produce dramatic results.
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