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Aug 15, 2015 10:51:41   #
StevenG Loc: Long Island, NY
 
I am interested in upgrading to a full frame camera from my canon 60D. See original post (Aug 10): Switching from Canon to Nikon--A Dilemma, outlining my thoughts, and asking if you thought the Nikon D750 would be a good fit. I want to thank all of you who responded for your comments. As I don't want to lug around a heavy camera, many of you suggested a mirrorless camera, such as the Sony.

I know nothing about the Sony models, so I read most of the reviews I could find, and I became quite intrigued. It seems that the Sony A7 ii is relatively comparable to the Nikon D750 in terms of specs and price. It gets great reviews.

Because Sony added an apparently wonderful vibration compensation system directly in the camera, lenses do not need that feature. The problem is the camera gained a lot of weight, and is only about 5 ounces lighter than the Nikon D750. Sony/Ziess lenses get excellent reviews, but are quite expensive. Nikon or Canon (or third party) lenses can be used with an adapter. The adapter adds about $400 (B and H), and probably adds a few ounces, again bringing the weight closer to the Nikon. I also read some reviews indicating that the adapter caused problems with third party lenses (Tamron, Sigma). Others said it worked perfectly. The Sony A7 ii only has a battery life of about 350-400 pictures, meaning that I would have to carry at least one additional battery on a long day of shooting. And the Sony also has only one card slot. Not a deal breaker, but I would prefer two. So, while the Sony appears to be a very good camera, these issues make it a very questionable fit for me.

I am still thinking of the Nikon D750, but I am also hoping that a Canon 6D ii will hit the market within the next 6 months, with specs similar to the Nikon D750.

I would like to hear from anyone who uses the Sony A7 ii, particularly on picture quality, battery life, weight, and the use of lens adapters. I would also like to know if anyone has heard rumors about the 6D ii.

Thanks.
Steve

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Aug 15, 2015 11:09:56   #
rjaywallace Loc: Wisconsin
 
How about the Canon 5D Mk III? Reviews point to its exceptionally sharp still images and great video capabilities. /Ralph formerly from Glen Cove.

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Aug 15, 2015 11:11:52   #
MMC Loc: Brooklyn NY
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeuA5o3rKJc
StevenG wrote:
I am interested in upgrading to a full frame camera from my canon 60D. See original post (Aug 10): Switching from Canon to Nikon--A Dilemma, outlining my thoughts, and asking if you thought the Nikon D750 would be a good fit. I want to thank all of you who responded for your comments. As I don't want to lug around a heavy camera, many of you suggested a mirrorless camera, such as the Sony.

I know nothing about the Sony models, so I read most of the reviews I could find, and I became quite intrigued. It seems that the Sony A7 ii is relatively comparable to the Nikon D750 in terms of specs and price. It gets great reviews.

Because Sony added an apparently wonderful vibration compensation system directly in the camera, lenses do not need that feature. The problem is the camera gained a lot of weight, and is only about 5 ounces lighter than the Nikon D750. Sony/Ziess lenses get excellent reviews, but are quite expensive. Nikon or Canon (or third party) lenses can be used with an adapter. The adapter adds about $400 (B and H), and probably adds a few ounces, again bringing the weight closer to the Nikon. I also read some reviews indicating that the adapter caused problems with third party lenses (Tamron, Sigma). Others said it worked perfectly. The Sony A7 ii only has a battery life of about 350-400 pictures, meaning that I would have to carry at least one additional battery on a long day of shooting. And the Sony also has only one card slot. Not a deal breaker, but I would prefer two. So, while the Sony appears to be a very good camera, these issues make it a very questionable fit for me.

I am still thinking of the Nikon D750, but I am also hoping that a Canon 6D ii will hit the market within the next 6 months, with specs similar to the Nikon D750.

I would like to hear from anyone who uses the Sony A7 ii, particularly on picture quality, battery life, weight, and the use of lens adapters. I would also like to know if anyone has heard rumors about the 6D ii.

Thanks.
Steve
I am interested in upgrading to a full frame camer... (show quote)

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Aug 15, 2015 11:14:59   #
MMC Loc: Brooklyn NY
 
http://www.imaging-resource.com/cameras/nikon/d750/vs/sony/a7-ii/
StevenG wrote:
I am interested in upgrading to a full frame camera from my canon 60D. See original post (Aug 10): Switching from Canon to Nikon--A Dilemma, outlining my thoughts, and asking if you thought the Nikon D750 would be a good fit. I want to thank all of you who responded for your comments. As I don't want to lug around a heavy camera, many of you suggested a mirrorless camera, such as the Sony.

I know nothing about the Sony models, so I read most of the reviews I could find, and I became quite intrigued. It seems that the Sony A7 ii is relatively comparable to the Nikon D750 in terms of specs and price. It gets great reviews.

Because Sony added an apparently wonderful vibration compensation system directly in the camera, lenses do not need that feature. The problem is the camera gained a lot of weight, and is only about 5 ounces lighter than the Nikon D750. Sony/Ziess lenses get excellent reviews, but are quite expensive. Nikon or Canon (or third party) lenses can be used with an adapter. The adapter adds about $400 (B and H), and probably adds a few ounces, again bringing the weight closer to the Nikon. I also read some reviews indicating that the adapter caused problems with third party lenses (Tamron, Sigma). Others said it worked perfectly. The Sony A7 ii only has a battery life of about 350-400 pictures, meaning that I would have to carry at least one additional battery on a long day of shooting. And the Sony also has only one card slot. Not a deal breaker, but I would prefer two. So, while the Sony appears to be a very good camera, these issues make it a very questionable fit for me.

I am still thinking of the Nikon D750, but I am also hoping that a Canon 6D ii will hit the market within the next 6 months, with specs similar to the Nikon D750.

I would like to hear from anyone who uses the Sony A7 ii, particularly on picture quality, battery life, weight, and the use of lens adapters. I would also like to know if anyone has heard rumors about the 6D ii.

Thanks.
Steve
I am interested in upgrading to a full frame camer... (show quote)

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Aug 15, 2015 11:15:10   #
jsmangis Loc: Peoria, IL
 
Hello Steven,
I can't speak for the D750, but I love my D610. If you are thinking of getting something smaller and lighter you might consider the Nikon Df. I know for sure that it will be my next camera body. I do like the 24+ MP sensor in my 610 (the same as the D750) but I don't use the video feature at all. The Df is costly but much lighter and more compact. It is really what I thought a DSLR should be, reminding me of my old FE-2 and FM-2 I ran miles of film through back in the day. The Sony's are very interesting and, if I didn't have so much Nikkor glass, I would probably be in the market for one right now. I will, however be buying myself a Df for Christmas this year.

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Aug 15, 2015 11:48:03   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
StevenG wrote:
I am interested in upgrading to a full frame camera from my canon 60D. See original post (Aug 10): Switching from Canon to Nikon--A Dilemma, outlining my thoughts, and asking if you thought the Nikon D750 would be a good fit. I want to thank all of you who responded for your comments. As I don't want to lug around a heavy camera, many of you suggested a mirrorless camera, such as the Sony.

I know nothing about the Sony models, so I read most of the reviews I could find, and I became quite intrigued. It seems that the Sony A7 ii is relatively comparable to the Nikon D750 in terms of specs and price. It gets great reviews.

Because Sony added an apparently wonderful vibration compensation system directly in the camera, lenses do not need that feature. The problem is the camera gained a lot of weight, and is only about 5 ounces lighter than the Nikon D750. Sony/Ziess lenses get excellent reviews, but are quite expensive. Nikon or Canon (or third party) lenses can be used with an adapter. The adapter adds about $400 (B and H), and probably adds a few ounces, again bringing the weight closer to the Nikon. I also read some reviews indicating that the adapter caused problems with third party lenses (Tamron, Sigma). Others said it worked perfectly. The Sony A7 ii only has a battery life of about 350-400 pictures, meaning that I would have to carry at least one additional battery on a long day of shooting. And the Sony also has only one card slot. Not a deal breaker, but I would prefer two. So, while the Sony appears to be a very good camera, these issues make it a very questionable fit for me.

I am still thinking of the Nikon D750, but I am also hoping that a Canon 6D ii will hit the market within the next 6 months, with specs similar to the Nikon D750.

I would like to hear from anyone who uses the Sony A7 ii, particularly on picture quality, battery life, weight, and the use of lens adapters. I would also like to know if anyone has heard rumors about the 6D ii.

Thanks.
Steve
I am interested in upgrading to a full frame camer... (show quote)


I have to wonder, given your physical location, why you don't just go to one of the myriad of local area camera stores and handle them all together, comparing features and prices?
That said, I switched from Canon to Nikon some years ago and have been ecstatic at the change. The D750 id probably the best all-around photographers tool on the market today at a VERY good price point. And the selection of available lenses is the widest in the industry, Sony having the narrowest selection of direct fit lenses. I have an A7 and an A7 II in the store (Both traded in on Nikons) and the lens selection, SLOW start-up time, and terrible battery life have all been given as equal reasons for getting rid of them. Personally, I hate the un-natural colors in the EVF's.

You might also want to look at these:

http://www.imaging-resource.com/cameras/canon/6d/vs/nikon/d750/
http://www.imaging-resource.com/cameras/canon/6d/vs/nikon/d610/

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Aug 15, 2015 11:53:41   #
MMC Loc: Brooklyn NY
 
Thank you very much. You put some honey on my heart. Just yesterday I received my Nikon D 750 and now playing with it.
MT Shooter wrote:
I have to wonder, given your physical location, why you don't just go to one of the myriad of local area camera stores and handle them all together, comparing features and prices?
That said, I switched from Canon to Nikon some years ago and have been ecstatic at the change. The D750 id probably the best all-around photographers tool on the market today at a VERY good price point. And the selection of available lenses is the widest in the industry, Sony having the narrowest selection of direct fit lenses. I have an A7 and an A7 II in the store (Both traded in on Nikons) and the lens selection, SLOW start-up time, and terrible battery life have all been given as equal reasons for getting rid of them. Personally, I hate the un-natural colors in the EVF's.
I have to wonder, given your physical location, wh... (show quote)

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Aug 15, 2015 15:17:58   #
traveler90712 Loc: Lake Worth, Fl.
 
You have Cameta Camera and Berger Brothers (several locations on LI) to get a touchy feely of both the 610 and the 750. If you wish, we could even meet somewhere and you could play with my 610 for a bit. PM me if interested or for more info.

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Aug 15, 2015 15:36:12   #
JPL
 
StevenG wrote:
I am interested in upgrading to a full frame camera from my canon 60D. See original post (Aug 10): Switching from Canon to Nikon--A Dilemma, outlining my thoughts, and asking if you thought the Nikon D750 would be a good fit. I want to thank all of you who responded for your comments. As I don't want to lug around a heavy camera, many of you suggested a mirrorless camera, such as the Sony.

I know nothing about the Sony models, so I read most of the reviews I could find, and I became quite intrigued. It seems that the Sony A7 ii is relatively comparable to the Nikon D750 in terms of specs and price. It gets great reviews.

Because Sony added an apparently wonderful vibration compensation system directly in the camera, lenses do not need that feature. The problem is the camera gained a lot of weight, and is only about 5 ounces lighter than the Nikon D750. Sony/Ziess lenses get excellent reviews, but are quite expensive. Nikon or Canon (or third party) lenses can be used with an adapter. The adapter adds about $400 (B and H), and probably adds a few ounces, again bringing the weight closer to the Nikon. I also read some reviews indicating that the adapter caused problems with third party lenses (Tamron, Sigma). Others said it worked perfectly. The Sony A7 ii only has a battery life of about 350-400 pictures, meaning that I would have to carry at least one additional battery on a long day of shooting. And the Sony also has only one card slot. Not a deal breaker, but I would prefer two. So, while the Sony appears to be a very good camera, these issues make it a very questionable fit for me.

I am still thinking of the Nikon D750, but I am also hoping that a Canon 6D ii will hit the market within the next 6 months, with specs similar to the Nikon D750.

I would like to hear from anyone who uses the Sony A7 ii, particularly on picture quality, battery life, weight, and the use of lens adapters. I would also like to know if anyone has heard rumors about the 6D ii.

Thanks.
Steve
I am interested in upgrading to a full frame camer... (show quote)


I have a different model with even worse battery life, the A7r and I bought a charger and 3 batteries for around $25 on ebay. It works well and without any problems so far and I would say you need at least 2 extra batteries. The battery life can be worse then advertised if your dhooting and viewing habits differ from the standard. I am also using many adapters that all work well. But they are all fully manual. I am not using any lens on this camera with auto anything. You do not have to worry about picture quality in general, but I like my Nikon D600 better in low light.

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Aug 15, 2015 15:50:05   #
JPL
 
About canon 6dm2 I think there are no rumors about it bit there have been rumors about 5dm4 that will maybe called 5dx and some guessing about that will also be the upgrade for the 6d

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Aug 16, 2015 05:12:31   #
Mickey Mantle Loc: New York City
 
I am a convert to Sony mirror less and specifically the 7 ii. I consider it the perfect cMera for my needs. The weight is almost as much as the 750 and 610, but I would still prefer the Sony. Has features that Nikon does not have and picture quality is excellent.

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Aug 16, 2015 05:12:48   #
Mickey Mantle Loc: New York City
 
I am a convert to Sony mirror less and specifically the 7 ii. I consider it the perfect cMera for my needs. The weight is almost as much as the 750 and 610, but I would still prefer the Sony. Has features that Nikon does not have and picture quality is excellent.

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Aug 16, 2015 07:29:15   #
ralphc4176 Loc: Conyers, GA
 
I have a Sony a7r (original) and love it. It's a wonderful camera. I also have the Canon 5DII, which is also a great camera but heavier than the a7r. Full-frame Sony lenses are quite pricey, in my opinion, but they take excellent photos. There are probably more lenses and accessories available for Canon than for Sony. And the a7r requires Sony's new type flash, which I also think is overpriced in the Sony brand.

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Aug 16, 2015 07:35:34   #
RGreenway Loc: Morristown, New Jersey
 
As someone who used to be solidly in the Nikon camp, having bought most of their upper-mid DSLR/s the last being a D800. Had the "holy trinity" of zooms.

Switched to SONY a couple of years ago. NEX-7, then A7r and now A7r II. Couldn't be happier! Besides a SMALLER boy and a little less weight in the body, the lenses are ALSO lighter if you go for the f4 zooms. I find solid performance up to ISO 6,400 so you don't need a fast lens for light sensitivity. The f4 70-200 FE is as good in IQ as the 70-200 f2.8 A lens that you can also use with an adapter. Ditto for the 24-70 f4 vs the 24-70 f2.8 which is MUCH heavier!

So you give up a LITTLE booked w f4? When I really need that, I use a faster Prime lens like the 50mm f2 Loxia or the 25mm f2.8 Zeiss ZM. The ability to use great Zeiss or Leica M mount lenses w an adapter is amazing. The focus peaking and focus magnification features make using MF lenses fun again. And then you can get back into zone focusing for street photography. This is also a great advantage when you give your camera to someone to take a group shot you are in. Autofocus? If the autofocus spot isn't on a person, the shot is out of focus. With a MF lens you prefocus the shot, give them the camera, and you will get an in focus image!

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Aug 16, 2015 08:02:33   #
lwerthe1mer Loc: Birmingham, Alabama
 
I just bought an a7ii, my first venture into full frame. I haven't had it a long time, but I am very impressed with the quality of the photos, and with some of the unique features, such as focus peaking and magnification, in camera stabilization, lock on auto focus, etc. My other camera is a Canon 70D.

Battery life is poor, and the camera is not as light as I would have liked.

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