Question about macro lens with extension tubes vs add-on diopter lens
Jul 15, 2015 18:53:12 #
I have Nikkor 105mm macro lens and Kenko extension tubes. I am not satisfied with magnification even when I am using 3 tubes. I have seen macro photos other Hog members where magnification is much bigger. Can I have bigger magnification with add-on diopter lenses? How can I have better result using my lens and extension tubes?
Jul 15, 2015 19:05:51 #
Jul 15, 2015 19:06:46 #
Jul 15, 2015 19:15:20 #
+ diopter filters will get you closer without light loss but you loose focal length (working distance) and some IQ.
Enlarging lens mounted in reverse on ( medium format) bellows with a tube on the end is what I would use. The low profile of the lens will facilitate lighting.
Enlarging lens mounted in reverse on ( medium format) bellows with a tube on the end is what I would use. The low profile of the lens will facilitate lighting.
Jul 15, 2015 19:22:58 #
twowindsbear wrote:
Very interesting question. For beginning at least 2:1. I mean 2x bigger on sensor then real.How much magnification do you want?
Jul 15, 2015 19:25:39 #
imagemeister wrote:
+ diopter filters will get you closer without light loss but you loose focal length (working distance) and some IQ.
Enlarging lens mounted in reverse on ( medium format) bellows with a tube on the end is what I would use. The low profile of the lens will facilitate lighting.
Enlarging lens mounted in reverse on ( medium format) bellows with a tube on the end is what I would use. The low profile of the lens will facilitate lighting.
lightcatcher wrote:
I do not have bellows but can put it in my waiting list. Thanks.Bellows for larger magnification.
Jul 15, 2015 19:33:37 #
A few of us are using a Raynox snap on diopter lens for better enlargement. Here's a link to it on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Raynox-DCR-250-Super-Macro-Snap-/dp/B000A1SZ2Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1437003120&sr=8-1&keywords=raynox
http://www.amazon.com/Raynox-DCR-250-Super-Macro-Snap-/dp/B000A1SZ2Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1437003120&sr=8-1&keywords=raynox
Jul 15, 2015 19:34:15 #
MMC wrote:
I'll go out on a limb & suggest another set of extension tubes. This should give you pretty good IQ. Very interesting question. For beginning at least 2:1.
Good luck!
Jul 15, 2015 19:40:21 #
gym wrote:
Thanks for your reply. Is it working like macro filters? How good is IQ with it?A few of us are using a Raynox snap on lens for better enlargement.
Jul 15, 2015 19:45:18 #
twowindsbear wrote:
I do not complain about IQ. I know that Kenko extension tubes are good enough. What other set can you recommend me?I'll go out on a limb & suggest another set of extension tubes. This should give you pretty good IQ. Good luck!
Jul 15, 2015 20:09:36 #
MMC wrote:
I don't know the extent that the Raynox is being used. I'm sure other users will chime in when they read this post. When that happens, you can take a look at their images and decide for yourself.Thanks for your reply. Is it working like macro filters? How good is IQ with it?
Jul 15, 2015 20:10:57 #
MMC wrote:
I didn't mean a 'different' set, I meant an 'additional' set - to give you even MORE extension & more magnification.I do not complain about IQ. I know that Kenko extension tubes are good enough. What other set can you recomend me?
Something else to consider: IF you already have a prime lens in the 24, 28, 35, or 50mm lens, would be to get a simple reversing ring. The 'shorter' lens will give you the most magnification, and the closest working distance. This will give you a really inexpensive option. The 'down side' - IMHO of course - is that this combination is not very flexible.
Jul 15, 2015 21:41:10 #
Going back thru you archives I'm not running across any macros in the 2:1 range and only a handful of true macro 1:1. I would give the extension tubes a chance first by practicing exclusively in the 2:1 range. Just because you have a full set of tubes on your camera does not mean your focusing at 2:1. I would adjust my lens manually to the Closes focusing distance which will give you the magnification you seek. If shot in this fashion, a little cropping will give you even better results. I personally use the Raynox DCR-250 for higher magnification from time to time, but must Warn, the DOF is extremely thin, and requires an absolute flat focal plan on subject to achieve the best possible results. This is much harder than learning to shoot with the full set of tubes set at the closes focusing distance. It Takes practice and more practice to get good at this. Some of these guys have been practicing Daily, for several years to get consistent results. No easy way around this, other than practice.
Jul 15, 2015 22:26:24 #
MMC wrote:
You could also mount your macro lens in reverse on your tubes or bellows. There will be less internal reflections off the walls of the bellows than the walls of the tubes.I do not have bellows but can put it in my waiting list. Thanks.
Readers of this thread will find this of interest also:
http://petapixel.com/2015/01/05/venus-60mm-f2-8-ultra-macro-worlds-first-21-magnification-lens-infinity-focus
Jul 15, 2015 23:41:03 #
A few points for clarification:
1.) You capture true macro (1:1 magnification) ONLY if your macro lens is set to Minimum Focusing Distance;
2.) Adding 68-mm of extension tube (12 + 20 +36) with 105mm macro lens set to MFD will yield 2:1 mag (2x life-size);
or
3.) Adding a 4.8-diopter (close-up) Raynox DCR-150 lens to front of macro lens (set to MFD) will also yield 2:1 mag;
4.) It is possible to use both extension tubes & add-on diopter lens simultaneously, but Working Distance is radically reduced;
5.) There are several threads here worth reading: http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-36372-1.html .
Specifically, read more here:
FAQ: Extension Tubes vs Bellows vs Tele-Extenders vs Add-on "Close-Up" Diopter Lenses
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-26496-1.html
1.) You capture true macro (1:1 magnification) ONLY if your macro lens is set to Minimum Focusing Distance;
2.) Adding 68-mm of extension tube (12 + 20 +36) with 105mm macro lens set to MFD will yield 2:1 mag (2x life-size);
or
3.) Adding a 4.8-diopter (close-up) Raynox DCR-150 lens to front of macro lens (set to MFD) will also yield 2:1 mag;
4.) It is possible to use both extension tubes & add-on diopter lens simultaneously, but Working Distance is radically reduced;
5.) There are several threads here worth reading: http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-36372-1.html .
Specifically, read more here:
FAQ: Extension Tubes vs Bellows vs Tele-Extenders vs Add-on "Close-Up" Diopter Lenses
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-26496-1.html
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