TonyP wrote:
After 50+ years of taking photos, today I started an intermediate course in 'Creative Photography'.
My first dedicated schooling for many many years.
The course is being run by a very qualified Artistic Director from one of NZs largest studios.
In the introduction this morning he started off by saying he'd be teaching us to ignore most of our incamera settings.
By the end of the course we would only be capturing RAW files using manual settings including colour temperature, ISO, aperture and shutter speed.
Just like a professional.
He promised, by the end of the course, we would notice major differences in how we approached a shoot and the results would be a major improvement on what we had captured in the past.
We were then sent out to a location (a Historic Village) to take pics as we normally would for an hour. On our return we edited and saved the pics on a school computer for reference and comparison at the end of the course.
Going to be interesting.
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That sounds like it will be fun!
There are other programs for PP. OnOne software has their Perfect Photo Suite and Alien Skin has their Exposure app. Both are full PP helps that many long time professionals use. I have both of them as well as PSE 12. Good luck all varied but good advice in posts. For you follow your gut feelings after studying them all.
I'm happy to see you back!
Searcher wrote:
Although I strongly support Mac's post above, a program such as Lightroom will enhance your learning of Photography and is in itself fairly easy to learn.
Be aware there are currently two versions: LR v 6.1 which can be purchased outright and LR CC 2015 which is the subscription version. The latter has more features than the former, and comes with a "free" copy of the latest Photoshop.
A learning resource for any and all post processing can be found on the Hog:
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here to come in and look around
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here to subscribe to the Post-Processing Digital Images section, click on "All Sections" and scroll to the third-to-last item:
Post-Processing Digital Images and click to subscribe in the appropriate box.
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Mac
Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
TonyP wrote:
After 50+ years of taking photos, today I started an intermediate course in 'Creative Photography'.
My first dedicated schooling for many many years.
The course is being run by a very qualified Artistic Director from one of NZs largest studios.
In the introduction this morning he started off by saying he'd be teaching us to ignore most of our incamera settings.
By the end of the course we would only be capturing RAW files using manual settings including colour temperature, ISO, aperture and shutter speed.
Just like a professional.
He promised, by the end of the course, we would notice major differences in how we approached a shoot and the results would be a major improvement on what we had captured in the past.
We were then sent out to a location (a Historic Village) to take pics as we normally would for an hour. On our return we edited and saved the pics on a school computer for reference and comparison at the end of the course.
Going to be interesting.
After 50+ years of taking photos, today I started ... (
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That sounds like a great way to learn. Enjoy.
DWU2
Loc: Phoenix Arizona area
My suggestion: Work on your photography technique this summer and fall. If you shoot in both RAW and JPG, that'll enable you to enjoy your shots now and then use them in PP later. Then, when winter comes to NJ, that would be a great time to spend learning LR.
Lovin' retirement wrote:
Hi everyone. Am still learning all the ins and outs of my Nikon D5100, basic photography concepts and how to create interesting / creative photos. Currently reading Bryan Peterson's Understanding Exposure but I have a very long way to go. Am thinking of maybe getting Lightroom and learning how to improve my photos post processing. My hesitation is that I'm still not proficient taking photos so maybe trying to learn Lightroom may be too challenging at this time. I enjoy shooting landscapes primarily.
Appreciate thoughts and suggestions from all you great Hogs!
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Learning how to use the camera is primary, then likely composition. I learned when there was no PP, with film.
Though, if photography is new to you (sounds like it) starting with Lightroom for its cataloging features before having a huge number of photos might not be a bad idea. For PP, Lightroom is basic, PSE 13 is more for editing and PP at a pixel level, and Ps CS6 or Ps CC is the industry standard pixel editor. Lr6 is much easier to learn than Ps though, and is database based. No one can ever completely master Photoshop.
But learn how to take good images first!
Thanks so much for the information and advice. Appreciate it!
Lovin' retirement wrote:
Hi everyone. Am still learning all the ins and outs of my Nikon D5100, basic photography concepts and how to create interesting / creative photos. Currently reading Bryan Peterson's Understanding Exposure but I have a very long way to go. Am thinking of maybe getting Lightroom and learning how to improve my photos post processing. My hesitation is that I'm still not proficient taking photos so maybe trying to learn Lightroom may be too challenging at this time. I enjoy shooting landscapes primarily.
Appreciate thoughts and suggestions from all you great Hogs!
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I am a newbie as well, but my reading and researching led me to start shooting RAW. If you are at that point then PP software is a must. If you prefer JPEGs out of the camera and do not want to switch, then your PP options are more limited as there is not as much you can do.
I also feel it comes down to what your goal is. If you are just taking family snapshots for your own consumption, then I wouldn't bother unless you actually are interested in PP as part of your hobby. If you are instead at least a hobbyist and want the best images you can possibly get, then go for it and get LR or something of the sort.
On our recent vacation, most of the shots will never be seen by anyone outside my family and friends, but I shot them in RAW and JPEG. The JPEGs were so my wife could post them for her friends right away. The RAW files were for me to edit, both as a hobby and to learn. I was happy I did it though, because I was able to save several shots that my rookie self had botched (exposure-wise). They were shots I really wanted, and couldn't just reshoot, so PP saved the day.
Mac
Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
sodapop wrote:
I think you should get Lightroom. It is a part of the process no matter what stage of it you are in.
PP is part of the process, not necessarily LightRoom itself. Most computer operating systems offer a photo editing program. It might be best for a beginner to start with the program that came with the computer before moving to a more advanced program.
Lovin' retirement wrote:
Hi everyone. Am still learning all the ins and outs of my Nikon D5100, basic photography concepts and how to create interesting / creative photos. Currently reading Bryan Peterson's Understanding Exposure but I have a very long way to go. Am thinking of maybe getting Lightroom and learning how to improve my photos post processing. My hesitation is that I'm still not proficient taking photos so maybe trying to learn Lightroom may be too challenging at this time. I enjoy shooting landscapes primarily.
Appreciate thoughts and suggestions from all you great Hogs!
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Shoot in raw and jpg. This will give you a chance to learn to play with lightroom on the raw file yet have a jpg for your comfort. Once you have mastered the basics of LR shoot in just raw. To learn LR check out Anthony Morganti youtube videos
As others have said, learning the basics of how to operate your camera, composition, lighting, etc. should be high on your list.
Just the same, doing some PP in Lightroom, PSE or even PS is a valuable part of the process.
Of course you need a good image to get the most benefit out of any PP program. However, using one of the PP programs will be something for you to do when you are unable to be out shooting. In addition, as you try to fix things in your early images you will also be teaching yourself the limits of PP and you will be motivated to create better images in the camera.
In my opinion I would suggest starting with one of the most popular and less intense programs such as Lightroom or PSE. PS can be very overwhelming. Layers such as those used in PSE and PS have been a stumbling block for me for years.
The important thing is to have fun and enjoy a stimulating hobby. Good luck.
Silvermeteor wrote:
As others have said, learning the basics of how to operate your camera, composition, lighting, etc. should be high on your list.
Just the same, doing some PP in Lightroom, PSE or even PS is a valuable part of the process.
Of course you need a good image to get the most benefit out of any PP program. However, using one of the PP programs will be something for you to do when you are unable to be out shooting. In addition, as you try to fix things in your early images you will also be teaching yourself the limits of PP and you will be motivated to create better images in the camera.
In my opinion I would suggest starting with one of the most popular and less intense programs such as Lightroom or PSE. PS can be very overwhelming. Layers such as those used in PSE and PS have been a stumbling block for me for years.
The important thing is to have fun and enjoy a stimulating hobby. Good luck.
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Thanks so much for the info and advice....much appreciated!
The OP specifically asked about Lightroom.
Mac wrote:
PP is part of the process, not necessarily LightRoom itself. Most computer operating systems offer a photo editing program. It might be best for a beginner to start with the program that came with the computer before moving to a more advanced program.
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