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Jun 26, 2015 10:37:26   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
You realize that an E5 with over 4 years only earned $154 per month and if in base housing did not receive a housing allowance. So that $20 per month for a cook was too much for a Sgt to afford.

Domestic help was supplied to boost the german economy. On Okinawa in 1960 had a person assigned to polish my shoes and make the bed, etc for 75 cents a month and that was to boost the economy.

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Jun 26, 2015 12:30:20   #
Steve_m Loc: Southern California
 
richosob wrote:
Thank you Richard for another great story related to WW 2. Hope to see more. When you look at the destruction of those cities in Germany after the war you can't help but wonder how they rebuilt them so fast. I mean these were large cities that were leveled to the ground.

Rich


They rebuilt with the help from US and from whatever they looted during the war throughout the Europe.

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Jun 26, 2015 13:27:41   #
Steve_m Loc: Southern California
 
Steve_m wrote:
They rebuilt with the help from US and from whatever they looted during the war throughout the Europe.


Here is a link to one of way too many examples.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2600801/German-recluse-hiding-1billion-Nazi-art-collection-including-work-Picasso-Matisse-Dix-given-pictures-back.html

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Jun 26, 2015 16:43:53   #
JustMePB Loc: Currently Indian Trail, NC.
 
I was a dependent living in Ansbach, Germany 1957-61. Lived in gov't quarters, no maid or gardner, etc. No restrictions on mingling with the Germans... was just asked to dress cleanly and be polite. Lived in Bad Aibling, Germany 1972-76.... everyone in our building contributed funds to pay a German laborer to clean the stairwells, mow the grass, etc.

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Jun 26, 2015 18:05:46   #
RichardQ Loc: Colorado
 
JustMePB wrote:
I was a dependent living in Ansbach, Germany 1957-61. Lived in gov't quarters, no maid or gardner, etc. No restrictions on mingling with the Germans... was just asked to dress cleanly and be polite. Lived in Bad Aibling, Germany 1972-76.... everyone in our building contributed funds to pay a German laborer to clean the stairwells, mow the grass, etc.


Thank you for your info, JustMePB. The period covered by my series of reports ran from 1945 to 1949, during which time Germany was occupied by Allied Military Government. The West German democratic Bundesrepublik (BRD) government was seated on Sept. 20, 1949, replacing the American, British and French Military Governments in their respective Occupation Zones. At the same time, the Russians sponsored the establishment of the communist East German Deutsche Demokratische Republik (DDR). Your stays in Germany were much later, when the U.S. Army was a "guest" of the Federal Republic of Germany. All of the "perks" for dependents had vanished by then, together with the black-marketeering and currency manipulations of those early postwar years.

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Jun 26, 2015 18:08:14   #
RichardQ Loc: Colorado
 
blacks2 wrote:
Thank you so much Richard, your report is fantastic as they all are. Your honest opinion and your great writing makes it always a pleasure to read.
Thank you very much Richard.


Thank you for your compliments, Mike. They're much appreciated.

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Jun 26, 2015 18:20:38   #
William J Renard
 
The Germans had it ruff, the Americans easy, The Volks deutche,
had it realy bad. I lived there, deportations, land grabs, and
just plain murder occured every day in the Eastern areas. Titos'
partisans killed germans after the war, the Rommanians sent the Germans to Gulags to starve to death. It was not so great for
those who where caught there.

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Jun 26, 2015 18:22:10   #
JustMePB Loc: Currently Indian Trail, NC.
 
RichardQ wrote:
Thank you for your info, JustMePB. The period covered by my series of reports ran from 1945 to 1949, during which time Germany was occupied by Allied Military Government. The West German democratic Bundesrepublik (BRD) government was seated on Sept. 20, 1949, replacing the American, British and French Military Governments in their respective Occupation Zones. At the same time, the Russians sponsored the establishment of the communist East German Deutsche Demokratische Republik (DDR). Your stays in Germany were much later, when the U.S. Army was a "guest" of the Federal Republic of Germany. All of the "perks" for dependents had vanished by then, together with the black-marketeering and currency manipulations of those early postwar years.
Thank you for your info, JustMePB. The period cov... (show quote)


Oh, don't get me wrong, I was not trying to say you were wrong. Just inserting that it did not continue to this day. I was an MP during my last stay and let me assure you that the blackmarketeering was still going on. We were still using ration cards for cigarettes, booze, gas, etc. I may still have one somewhere amongst my belongings, just don't know where at the moment.

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Jun 26, 2015 18:25:11   #
Jackel Loc: California
 
Richard Q - Almost a year before families of American soldiers started arriving in Germany, US military personnel were housed in German family homes and apartments that had been "requisitioned" by the US military.

American troops arrived in my German War Bride's hometown of Weinheim, Germany, (near Heidelberg and Mannheim) in late March of 1945. Her town had escaped any bombing or damage during the war. Too, there were no Geman troops or military facilities in her hometown.

After abandoning their tent compound initially set up in a large park area, the American troops moved to German family homes and large apartment complexes in the town, after the German families were summarily kicked out.

Several months later, I arrived in Weinheim, Germany, as a US soldier, to join the HQ 15th Constabulary Regiment Headquarters (formerly a part of Patton's 3rd Army). I had an army bunk in the small upstairs bedroom of a German family home located on the Wienkoopstrasse (strasse = street) in Weinheim. (see pictures) Several other US military personnel also lived in the home.

All home facilities, including bathrooms, were available to us except kitchen facilities, so we all ate in the military messhall, formerly a large living|dining area in another residential home.

A residential mansion formerly inhabited by one of the town's rich businessmen, Carl Freudenberg, (earlier the beloved Jewish owner, Hirsch, had been kicked out and, wisely, moved to Milwaukee, Wisconsin) became our Constabulary Headquarters, and I served there in several clerical capacities until our unit was transferred to nearby Seckenheim where we occupied former German military facilities.





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Jun 26, 2015 18:29:19   #
RichardQ Loc: Colorado
 
Rickyb wrote:
Any victory is hard to digest for those who loose the war. Many Germans did not want Hitler to be their leader. The ones that did changed their tune especially when cities like Berlin and especially Dresden were bombed and burnt. Thank you for the history and fotos. We all hope that this does not happen again in Europe, but with Mr Putin making waves and lies, who knows.


Thank you for your interest, Rickyb. There were plenty of apprehensive Germans in the early Hitler years, but they quickly learned to keep their mouths shut. If they were not beat up for criticizing "Der Führer", they were tossed into a concentration camp for "re-orientation." The propaganda minister, Josef Goebbels, made certain that the photos and films circulated to the outside world reinforced the idea that all Germans were wildly enthusuastic about Hitler. All the elections and referendums were rigged. Of course, the situation in Russia seems to be a repeat of those times, down to the annexation of the Crimea and the hustle on the Ukraine, all of which Putin views as traditionally Russian.

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Jun 26, 2015 18:30:52   #
RichardQ Loc: Colorado
 
ebbote wrote:
Very good Richard.


Thank you for your comment, Earnest.

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Jun 26, 2015 19:07:58   #
drbarrymary Loc: No. Carolina, Florida
 
I really enjoy reading your posts! Thanks, Barry

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Jun 26, 2015 19:11:36   #
Steve_m Loc: Southern California
 
William J Renard wrote:
The Germans had it ruff, the Americans easy, The Volks deutche,
had it realy bad. I lived there, deportations, land grabs, and
just plain murder occured every day in the Eastern areas. Titos'
partisans killed germans after the war, the Rommanians sent the Germans to Gulags to starve to death. It was not so great for
those who where caught there.


Well, who started that mess? What would happen those Romanians, Serbs, Czech, Polaks, Russians if you guys have won? You demonstrated how you can do killing in the big way. Don't try to get sympathy!!!! There is none.

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Jun 26, 2015 21:09:48   #
RichardQ Loc: Colorado
 
Doddy wrote:
Thanks for the info and shots Richard.


Hi, Doddy! Glad you dropped in, sir.

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Jun 26, 2015 21:21:22   #
RichardQ Loc: Colorado
 
SmittyOne wrote:
Got to Berlin, Tempelhof Flughafen, Dec. 1955, left Sept. 1959. By the time I got there, the Army had built housing for dependents, and schools. There was some resentment, but mostly, West Berlin, glad to be free from the Soviet domination. There was actually very little friction while I was there, and after I learned German, and could move around "unseen" in my uniform, I found that the "Amies" were very much appreciated. Didn't hear very many bad comments while eating, or taking pictures. Once the locals found out I was learning their language, and was interested in their history, the world opened up. They wanted to practice their English, and not be laughed at. Me, I wanted to practice my German and not be laughed at. Worked out great. I left a lot of friends in Berlin. Gradually, lost touch with some, outlived many others. My first wife learned English after we got to the states, must have said something right. Ha.
Got to Berlin, Tempelhof Flughafen, Dec. 1955, lef... (show quote)


Thank you for tour comments, SmittyOne. I never got to Berlin, although I enjoy the Berlin sense of humor and entertainment. During the 1960s there was a comedy group on German TV named "Die Berliner Stachelschweine", which translates into "The Berlin Hedgehogs". My family loved them.

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