Ugly Hedgehog - Photography Forum
Home Active Topics Newest Pictures Search Login Register
Wedding Photography
Last night
Jun 21, 2015 14:18:32   #
Beercat Loc: Central Coast of California
 
Seeing we are sharing this weeks catch I'll share a couple, mind you I was only there to capture video but seeing the photographers left 90 minutes before the end I thought I'd snap a few candid shots. You can only take so many video takes of the same crowd dancing.

70D
50mm 1.4 lens
80mm on my crop

1/125
flash
f/5.6
ISO - 800
Jpeg

I love snapping candid shots that the couple have no idea I captured. Shots like these are icing on the cake for the couple, capturing candid intimate moments that they can enjoy for years to come. I intentionally went for the fast falloff of the background, didn't want it to distract from the intimacy.


(Download)


(Download)

Reply
Jun 22, 2015 07:32:29   #
jaysnave Loc: Central Ohio
 
Very nice. The lighting works well. Were you using a diffuser or grid on your flash?

Reply
Jun 22, 2015 09:25:08   #
Beercat Loc: Central Coast of California
 
I was using (2) Canon 600 RT's

One off camera sitting on a table about 10 feet away from the corner wall. I tilted the flash at a 45 degree angle and bounced off the are were the 2 walls meet along with the ceiling. That was set on 1/4 power manual, used for ambient light, a giant soft box effect.

The other flash unit was on camera with a Gary Fong modifier set to ETTL minus 2/3 flash compensation.

In hindsight I would of added a second off-camera flash 80 degree off from the other off-camera flash as the room need light on the opposite side of the dance floor. Worked great for 1/2 of the dance floor but the ceilings were fairly low for such a large hall so it was hard to get one unit to give me enough ambient light.

I think I would of preferred more ambient at my control and less on-camera, maybe set the ETTL to minus 1 1/3. Though there appears no over cooked hot spots I can still tell the on-camera was the primary light source when in fact I wanted it to only be a fill.

Next time :)

Reply
 
 
Jun 22, 2015 11:03:36   #
bkyser Loc: Fly over country in Indiana
 
My favorite photos are also the ones that catch emotion instead of always posed. I actually really like how you lit these. One thing where I disagree with some, is using a room flash to brighten up the room. I usually prefer to have the room almost black with just the subjects lit. I think that comes from someone who is an AWFUL dancer, and prefer the room dark to pitch black. Even if the room is well lit, in the middle of the day, I prefer to underexpose the room by a lot (maybe 2-2.5 stops) and then light the couple so they stand out. Personally, I don't think one way is more right or wrong, it's just my style to try to have the others on the dance floor be just shadows.

Reply
Jun 22, 2015 11:57:13   #
Beercat Loc: Central Coast of California
 
bkyser wrote:
My favorite photos are also the ones that catch emotion instead of always posed. I actually really like how you lit these. One thing where I disagree with some, is using a room flash to brighten up the room. I usually prefer to have the room almost black with just the subjects lit. I think that comes from someone who is an AWFUL dancer, and prefer the room dark to pitch black. Even if the room is well lit, in the middle of the day, I prefer to underexpose the room by a lot (maybe 2-2.5 stops) and then light the couple so they stand out. Personally, I don't think one way is more right or wrong, it's just my style to try to have the others on the dance floor be just shadows.
My favorite photos are also the ones that catch em... (show quote)


In these closeups I agree with the underexposure. When snapping general pictures of the dance floor I prefer to under expose the background by about a stop. Couples like destination snaps as they paid big money for the place, photos with the setting is good IMO. I shot the video of the first dance with the crowd in the background, slightly shallow so the focus was on the B&G but you can see everyone watching is tells the story.

But as you mentioned, underexposed and/or shallow DOF for the background is wonderful for intimate/tight shots.

Reply
Jun 22, 2015 13:17:21   #
bkyser Loc: Fly over country in Indiana
 
That's the difference. Venues around here are about as classy as McDonald's. I will get a shot or two before people show up, but for the most part, I only do relatively intimate shots, as nobody wants to see old paneling and laminate tables.

Reply
Jun 22, 2015 22:23:57   #
jaysnave Loc: Central Ohio
 
Beercat wrote:
I was using (2) Canon 600 RT's

One off camera sitting on a table about 10 feet away from the corner wall. I tilted the flash at a 45 degree angle and bounced off the are were the 2 walls meet along with the ceiling. That was set on 1/4 power manual, used for ambient light, a giant soft box effect.

The other flash unit was on camera with a Gary Fong modifier set to ETTL minus 2/3 flash compensation.

In hindsight I would of added a second off-camera flash 80 degree off from the other off-camera flash as the room need light on the opposite side of the dance floor. Worked great for 1/2 of the dance floor but the ceilings were fairly low for such a large hall so it was hard to get one unit to give me enough ambient light.

I think I would of preferred more ambient at my control and less on-camera, maybe set the ETTL to minus 1 1/3. Though there appears no over cooked hot spots I can still tell the on-camera was the primary light source when in fact I wanted it to only be a fill.

Next time :)
I was using (2) Canon 600 RT's br br One off came... (show quote)


Thanks BC. Finding that ideal mix of ambient and strobe at a reception is tough, but really sets apart the good photographers VS. the on camera flash variety.

Reply
 
 
Jun 23, 2015 09:07:15   #
superpijak Loc: Middle TN
 
Beercat wrote:
Seeing we are sharing this weeks catch I'll share a couple, mind you I was only there to capture video but seeing the photographers left 90 minutes before the end I thought I'd snap a few candid shots. You can only take so many video takes of the same crowd dancing.

70D
50mm 1.4 lens
80mm on my crop

1/125
flash
f/5.6
ISO - 800
Jpeg

I love snapping candid shots that the couple have no idea I captured. Shots like these are icing on the cake for the couple, capturing candid intimate moments that they can enjoy for years to come. I intentionally went for the fast falloff of the background, didn't want it to distract from the intimacy.
Seeing we are sharing this weeks catch I'll share ... (show quote)


Quite nicely done.... :thumbup:

Reply
Jun 23, 2015 10:01:10   #
Beercat Loc: Central Coast of California
 
jaysnave wrote:
Thanks BC. Finding that ideal mix of ambient and strobe at a reception is tough, but really sets apart the good photographers VS. the on camera flash variety.


I really want to master the flash. I devour everything I can from the experts but until you put into practice what you read you don't really 'get it'.

Many pros are afraid of off-camera flash or are simply lazy. Of-camera is always more flattering and is a great way to eliminate hot spots on the faces. Off-camera, if done right is like a 10 foot soft box :)

Reply
Jun 23, 2015 10:24:23   #
jaysnave Loc: Central Ohio
 
Beercat wrote:
I really want to master the flash. I devour everything I can from the experts but until you put into practice what you read you don't really 'get it'.

Most pros are afraid of off-camera flash or are simply lazy. Of-camera is always more flattering and is a great way to eliminate hot spots on the faces. Off-camera, if done right is like a 10 foot soft box :)


That is the truth. Understanding the principles of light is one thing, but practice is the only way to start mastering light.

I attended a workshop with Nick Fancher who is all about creating studio quality light anywhere. In fact he wrote a book. Highly recommend it if you want to absorb some more.

http://www.amazon.com/Studio-Anywhere-Photographers-Unconventional-Locations/dp/0134084179/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1435069261&sr=8-1&keywords=studio+anywhere

Reply
Jun 23, 2015 10:25:25   #
bkyser Loc: Fly over country in Indiana
 
Beercat wrote:
I really want to master the flash. I devour everything I can from the experts but until you put into practice what you read you don't really 'get it'.

Many pros are afraid of off-camera flash or are simply lazy. Of-camera is always more flattering and is a great way to eliminate hot spots on the faces. Off-camera, if done right is like a 10 foot soft box :)


I believe it was you who suggested David Ziser's book (spelling?) One of the best book purchases I've made in years. (I found a like new copy on Amazon for $6.99, but after having purchased and read it cover to cover, I'd say it is worth paying full price if you have to.)

Just passing on the suggestion on your post, in case any others are interested.

Reply
 
 
Jun 23, 2015 11:54:26   #
Beercat Loc: Central Coast of California
 
David uses flash so well .......... and keeps it simple :)

Reply
Jun 23, 2015 13:35:08   #
bkyser Loc: Fly over country in Indiana
 
I'm a big fan of simple

Reply
If you want to reply, then register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.
Wedding Photography
UglyHedgehog.com - Forum
Copyright 2011-2024 Ugly Hedgehog, Inc.