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Mar 25, 2012 20:30:33   #
pinkycat Loc: The Garden State
 
Thanks, jeep daddy. Specifics really help me a lot. I'll give it another "shot" this week.

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Mar 25, 2012 20:49:23   #
Willy Loc: Alaska
 
jeep_daddy wrote:
pinkycat wrote:
OK -- I purposely went out on an overcast day to avoid sun glare. Weather was beautiful. Can you elaborate a bit?


Now go back on a sunny day and see what happens. Overcast skys are almost alway a bad idea unless you are looking for the results you got. Of course, if the tree is backed by the sun that could be just as bad. EW has it right. You should meter on the tree and when you take your pictures, take more than one. Try different exposures.

The duck is over exposed and your ISO is too high on both. Never use auto settings. You have zero control over auto settings. Your F-stop on the duck should have been f5.6 - f8 and a shutter speed of at least 1/600 if shooting with a 300mm lens. Out of doors on an overcast day I can't see shooting at more that ISO400.
quote=pinkycat OK -- I purposely went out on an o... (show quote)


I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with Jeep Daddy. Shooting on a overcast day is great for outdoor shooting as long as you don't include the sky. The cloud cover offers great diffused light. Its like being in a giant softbox. Always do your best to avoid mid-day sunshine. This is when the light is at its harshest.

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Mar 25, 2012 21:01:48   #
Willy Loc: Alaska
 
pinkycat wrote:
Thanks, jeep daddy. Specifics really help me a lot. I'll give it another "shot" this week.


Pinkycat, Try this. Go back to that tree on a blue sky day but be there at first light in the AM. When that soft warm golden light hits the tree you'll find your results far superior. The last light of the day, right before dark is great too.
Your Icon photo of the flower was shot in the sunshine and it shows. Go back and take that same shot on an overcast day and you'll find you like the results much better.

Post Script: I once lived in the Garden State too.

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Mar 25, 2012 21:43:13   #
pinkycat Loc: The Garden State
 
Thanks, Willy! Will do.

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Mar 25, 2012 22:04:40   #
pbmelvin
 
Both of these pictures seem to fine and can be inhanced to suit your liking in PP.

The only other thing I might address when shooting on overcast days is White Balance. Color tempature varies more than some of us think. Color Tempature is measured in degrees Kelvin (K). Candles, and Early Morning Light range from1000K to 2000K. Light Bulbs and Photo Floods 2500K to 3000K. Strobes 5000K. Daylight color temp range from 5000K to 6000K. Overcast, Hazy and Open shade - 7000K - 9000K.
Heavy Overcast Sky and Shade at high elevations 10000K - 20000K.

The lower the number the warmer the color (orange or yellow). Daylight is white to a vary light blue, and from there on ranges of deeper blue.

When shooting in varies conditions I usually set the White Balance to suit. This should capture the color closest to what you see.

The advice the others have given you is very good and it might be a good idea to follow it. I just wanted let you know about WB.

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Mar 26, 2012 13:54:24   #
ALYN Loc: Lebanon, Indiana
 
:lol: Pic 1 is of a TREE. Pic 2 is of a DUCK ! That's why they are DIFFERENT. ALYN

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Mar 26, 2012 15:03:51   #
pinkycat Loc: The Garden State
 
I walked right into that one!

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Mar 27, 2012 02:28:29   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
I meant to say the part about not including the sky. I stand corrected. I'm just so used to shooting toward the sky at birds. I find that some of my duck shots in the water are very flat and dull on overcast days, but a lot of my Robin or other contrasty birds on green grass are very appealing on overcast days.

Willy wrote:
jeep_daddy wrote:
pinkycat wrote:
OK -- I purposely went out on an overcast day to avoid sun glare. Weather was beautiful. Can you elaborate a bit?


Now go back on a sunny day and see what happens. Overcast skys are almost alway a bad idea unless you are looking for the results you got. Of course, if the tree is backed by the sun that could be just as bad. EW has it right. You should meter on the tree and when you take your pictures, take more than one. Try different exposures.

The duck is over exposed and your ISO is too high on both. Never use auto settings. You have zero control over auto settings. Your F-stop on the duck should have been f5.6 - f8 and a shutter speed of at least 1/600 if shooting with a 300mm lens. Out of doors on an overcast day I can't see shooting at more that ISO400.
quote=pinkycat OK -- I purposely went out on an o... (show quote)


I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with Jeep Daddy. Shooting on a overcast day is great for outdoor shooting as long as you don't include the sky. The cloud cover offers great diffused light. Its like being in a giant softbox. Always do your best to avoid mid-day sunshine. This is when the light is at its harshest.
quote=jeep_daddy quote=pinkycat OK -- I purposel... (show quote)

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