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Jun 10, 2015 14:31:45   #
NormanHarley Loc: Colorado
 
I wonder how long until Sony lets other camera makers buy this new sensor for their cameras?
"The newly developed 42.4 MP back-illuminated CMOS sensor is the most advanced, versatile and highest resolution full-frame image sensor that Sony has ever created, allowing the a7R II to reach new levels of quality, sensitivity and response speed. In the past, many photographers have been forced to choose between high-resolution and high-speed or high resolution and high sensitivity when selecting a camera. The new a7R II eliminates that sacrifice thanks to its innovative image sensor."
The reviews will be interesting!

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Jun 10, 2015 15:21:55   #
JimH123 Loc: Morgan Hill, CA
 
NormanHarley wrote:
I wonder how long until Sony lets other camera makers buy this new sensor for their cameras?
"The newly developed 42.4 MP back-illuminated CMOS sensor is the most advanced, versatile and highest resolution full-frame image sensor that Sony has ever created, allowing the a7R II to reach new levels of quality, sensitivity and response speed. In the past, many photographers have been forced to choose between high-resolution and high-speed or high resolution and high sensitivity when selecting a camera. The new a7R II eliminates that sacrifice thanks to its innovative image sensor."
The reviews will be interesting!
I wonder how long until Sony lets other camera mak... (show quote)


The reviews should be interesting!

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Jun 10, 2015 21:35:43   #
NormanHarley Loc: Colorado
 
The article I read said that Sony will be releasing 8 new lenses for it by early 2016 also. I'm sure the other big camera makers are taking notice!

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Jun 10, 2015 23:03:46   #
JimH123 Loc: Morgan Hill, CA
 
NormanHarley wrote:
I wonder how long until Sony lets other camera makers buy this new sensor for their cameras?
"The newly developed 42.4 MP back-illuminated CMOS sensor is the most advanced, versatile and highest resolution full-frame image sensor that Sony has ever created, allowing the a7R II to reach new levels of quality, sensitivity and response speed. In the past, many photographers have been forced to choose between high-resolution and high-speed or high resolution and high sensitivity when selecting a camera. The new a7R II eliminates that sacrifice thanks to its innovative image sensor."
The reviews will be interesting!
I wonder how long until Sony lets other camera mak... (show quote)


The reviews are out. I just read 7 or 8. Wow!

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Jun 11, 2015 06:50:30   #
Impressionist
 
As Sonny Bono would say,The beat goes on.

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Jun 11, 2015 07:14:35   #
DavidT Loc: Maryland
 
But, the $3200 price tag (body only) lessened my GAS attack somewhat.

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Jun 11, 2015 07:40:13   #
NormanHarley Loc: Colorado
 
DavidT wrote:
But, the $3200 price tag (body only) lessened my GAS attack somewhat.


It is a very hefty price tag. I am just excited to see the advances in the mirrorless technology and the new sensor design. I think I would like to own a full frame mirrorless some day, when the price comes down a little!

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Jun 11, 2015 07:48:02   #
ptcanon3ti Loc: NJ
 
Or when it comes down a lot. :)

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Jun 11, 2015 08:06:52   #
NormanHarley Loc: Colorado
 
ptcanon3ti wrote:
Or when it comes down a lot. :)


I was surprised at the huge price jump from the a7 to this new model. They must really be sure of themselves.

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Jun 11, 2015 10:09:40   #
JPL
 
With this camera Sony is obviously focused on fixing the biggest errors they did with the A7R.

Those errors were,
1. Bad autofocus system
2. Poor low light capability.
3. Slow fps in continuous mode.
4. Very poor battery life.

With this camera they seem to fix the first 3 problems. In addition they throw in 4K video, good image stabilizing and more megapixels to really make this more then just an update to fix the problems in the original version.

This seems to be a very good combination, the only serious drawback is the 290 shots battery life that translates to 3-4 extra batteries needed for a day use of the camera and too few minutes of 4K video to make this camera as interesting for 4K video as other specs would tell. Maybe there is some kind of power plug in the pipelines to make up for this, lets hope so for those interested in video making. But everything except the battery life seems to be good enough to kick ass in comparison to Canon and Nikon full frame cameras.

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Jun 11, 2015 10:19:10   #
JPL
 
NormanHarley wrote:
I was surprised at the huge price jump from the a7 to this new model. They must really be sure of themselves.


This is not a camera to compare with the A7 or A7II 24 mpx cameras. This one is cheaper pr. megapixel plus you get a 4K video and low light performance close to the A7S. Not a bad deal at all. And because they did not solve the battery problem this camera will probably not be popular with those who make money from on site photography so we will see a nice price drop/deals no later then 2016 and maybe already on black friday 2015 then it will be the time to grab one for less then $3000

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Jun 11, 2015 10:19:36   #
NormanHarley Loc: Colorado
 
JPL wrote:
With this camera Sony is obviously focused on fixing the biggest errors they did with the A7R.

Those errors were,
1. Bad autofocus system
2. Poor low light capability.
3. Slow fps in continuous mode.
4. Very poor battery life.

With this camera they seem to fix the first 3 problems. In addition they throw in 4K video, good image stabilizing and more megapixels to really make this more then just an update to fix the problems in the original version.

This seems to be a very good combination, the only serious drawback is the 290 shots battery life that translates to 3-4 extra batteries needed for a day use of the camera and too few minutes of 4K video to make this camera as interesting for 4K video as other specs would tell. Maybe there is some kind of power plug in the pipelines to make up for this, lets hope so for those interested in video making. But everything except the battery life seems to be good enough to kick ass in comparison to Canon and Nikon full frame cameras.
With this camera Sony is obviously focused on fixi... (show quote)


I would be first to tell Sony that on a full frame camera with tons of bells and whistles, it's ok to make it slightly bigger in order to hold a larger battery.

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Jun 11, 2015 10:24:40   #
JPL
 
NormanHarley wrote:
I would be first to tell Sony that on a full frame camera with tons of bells and whistles, it's ok to make it slightly bigger in order to hold a larger battery.


I agree, and it is a design failure that is almost impossible to understand that when Sony is designing a revolutionary camera that is electronic everything, including viewfinder, they do not make a room for a battery that fits the power needs of the camera. And this applies not only for this new model, but the whole lineup of A7xx cameras.

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Jun 11, 2015 10:30:21   #
NormanHarley Loc: Colorado
 
JPL wrote:
I agree, and it is a design failure that is almost impossible to understand that when Sony is designing a revolutionary camera that is electronic everything, including viewfinder, they do not make a room for a battery that fits the power needs of the camera. And this applies not only for this new model, but the whole lineup of A7xx cameras.


They may still be aiming it's marketing overseas where the mirrorless cameras have higher proportional sales. The need to have an American version, where more and bigger is better ;-)

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Jun 11, 2015 11:08:57   #
londonfire Loc: NY to NC
 
I'm wondering what group Sony will market this camera to? When the A7 series first came out they had a 24 and 36 mp version. Then, down the line they came out with their new 'flagship' and it was 12 mp. A high ISO machine, to be sure. Manufacturers never will, or can't, give you a unit that will do it all. It seems that you choose between great detail for landscapes or speed for sports or ISO for low light. Granted, there are some units that can be more than satisfactory in a lot of areas but sometimes it seems like they're just dribbling out improvements a little bit at a time to sell cameras.

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