A Challenge to the "Scientists" Here
Jun 1, 2015 12:47:19 #
davefales wrote:
I have noticed a sizeable group of proponents of &... (show quote)
so you indict science for not being pure...of course not, whenever humans are involved, there are cons, pranks, scams and outright fabrication to gain money and power...
science makes mistakes, but notice when other researchers tried unsuccessfully to duplicate the experiment, the ruse was discovered and the science discredited... by challenging all theories with peer review (others known in the field) science eventually exposes fraudulent theories, like the pilt-down man and cold-fusion.
Jun 1, 2015 12:53:20 #
bvm
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davefales wrote:
I have noticed a sizeable group of proponents of &... (show quote)
1% of the democRATs don't lie, 99% do.
The 99% call the 1% liars.
Jun 1, 2015 12:58:01 #
bvm wrote:
1% of the democRATs don't lie, 99% do.
The 99% call the 1% liars.
The 99% call the 1% liars.
"the center of fox's demographic"
Jun 1, 2015 13:09:00 #
Jun 1, 2015 14:07:12 #
davefales wrote:
I believe the challenge is to scientists to shun and shame "researchers" who resort to obvious fraud, i.e., to police their profession. Integrity is fundamental to their profession. As others have noted, the attraction of funding by both private and government souces seems to have compromised an alarming number of them.
Though, in the particular case cited above, I suspect a political agenda where funding was a secondary factor.
Though, in the particular case cited above, I suspect a political agenda where funding was a secondary factor.
I think that by and large the scientific community does make efforts to "police their profession" and take cases of ethical misconduct very seriously. Most science and research professional organizations have well defined and published codes of ethics that members are expected to follow, and failure to do so can result in public discrediting (which in some cases may result in lose of position). Many universities also require that students seeking a degree with intent to do research take and pass a course (or course modules) in research ethics. I believe that the majority in the scientific community recognize the harm that can be generated by ethical misconduct in research, and support any and all efforts to expose, discredit, and prevent its continuance once revealed.
Jun 1, 2015 14:25:06 #
Photographer Jim wrote:
I think that by and large the scientific community... (show quote)
yea, see if that guy gets any more grants... he is basically finished as a researcher.
Jun 1, 2015 15:01:22 #
davefales wrote:
I have noticed a sizeable group of proponents of &... (show quote)
Science is what it is. Think so each time you flip the light switch. Fraud exists in all disciplines.
Was not the fraud caught? Science has a way of dealing with intentional deception/fraud when it is caught. Catching it is not always easy.
I go with science and rationality.
Jun 1, 2015 15:04:01 #
Exactly. Make what ever outlandish claim you want but someone's gonna check your work.
James Shaw wrote:
Science is what it is. Think so each time you flip the light switch. Fraud exists in all disciplines.
Was not the fraud caught? Science has a way of dealing with intentional deception/fraud when it is caught. Catching it is not always easy.
I go with science and rationality.
Was not the fraud caught? Science has a way of dealing with intentional deception/fraud when it is caught. Catching it is not always easy.
I go with science and rationality.
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