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Apr 1, 2015 09:50:05   #
BobT Loc: southern Minnesota
 
Papa Joe,

I'd be telling a fib if I didn't say I liked that solution.....a lot. My superzoom/bridge camera is the very same SX50. And I do get good results from it, but inconsistently. Perhaps if I were to use it more, I'd get to know it better. Part of my problem is that I rotate my gear a lot; never getting to "really" know anyone camera very well.

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Apr 1, 2015 09:50:25   #
RobertW Loc: Breezy Point, New York
 
I write what I have several times- Because of limitations on mobility for a while, I gifted my Granddaughter with my Nikon DSLR cameras and kit and first tried Olympus Pen EP3 with a 12mmf2.0 and was startled to see the quality of the images, then went to an OMD-EM5 and added a 12-50 Zoom, then went to my current OMD-EM1 and added 40-150, 75-300 and Leica 25mmf1.4 plus a Metz 52 Flash and absolutely satisfied that's all I will ever want or need. The lighter 4/3 kit is producing as good (or better color too) than my huge Nikon kit did!

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Apr 1, 2015 09:52:45   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
BobT wrote:
As I see it, and after a lot of pondering over it, I still can't decide which way to go. A) smaller, faster aperture P&S along with a superzoom AKA: bridge camera, B) DSLR with a few basic, but quality lenses, that cover most applications, or C) Smaller/lighter ILC (ie mirrorless), also with a few basic lenses.
I guess what I'll be hearing is what YOU have chosen to use...which is fine...as long as you explain how/why you've come to that. Perhaps the most meaningful responses might involve giving me a list of what-all I should be considering to make such a choice. Though I've done this, there may be a thing or two that I haven't considered.
I like to be able to print my best images up to maybe 16x20 (at the largest). And I shoot basically everything, but with favors going to nature/wildlife at the top of the list. Also family, cityscapes, and landscape/scenics.
I don't want much gear. Just enough to get the job done, and without having to make decisions of which to take when, if I were to have more than one solution. Want only 1 solution.
Can you shed some light in helping me make a decision?
As I see it, and after a lot of pondering over it,... (show quote)


As I see it, because you want to be able to print 16X20, An SLR is a must. There will no doubt be some cropping as well, before the print , so in reality, the print will be larger than 16X20. You did not mention a budget. You did not mention how much money is available. Right now the best bargain in the industry is the Canon 7d. A great camera for $750. Put a decent lens with it and you can heve a really good system for about $1200. Thats my opinion for whatever it's worth.

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Apr 1, 2015 09:53:15   #
RobertW Loc: Breezy Point, New York
 
I write what I have several times- Because of limitations on mobility for a while, I gifted my Granddaughter with my Nikon DSLR cameras and kit and first tried Olympus Pen EP3 with a 12mmf2.0 and was startled to see the quality of the images, then went to an OMD-EM5 and added a 12-50 Zoom, then went to my current OMD-EM1 and added 40-150, 75-300 and Leica 25mmf1.4 plus a Metz 52 Flash and absolutely satisfied that's all I will ever want or need. The lighter 4/3 kit is producing as good (or better color too) than my huge Nikon kit did!

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Apr 1, 2015 09:56:04   #
billnourse Loc: Bloomfield, NM
 
BobT wrote:
Bill,

I have been researching the Sony A6000, and almost traded in my DSLR gear for one. But then kept running into comments boo-hooing the quality of the 16-50mm kit lens. No one seems to say much positive about it, and at best it seems to be just so-so-, in quality. I could get the body only, then pick better quality lenses. However, when stepping up a notch in the lens quality, the cost skyrockets. I could purchase an adapter allowing for the use of other brands of lenses. But here I fear I'd be getting into lenses physically larger than the native A6000-sized lenses; defeating the purpose of the mirrorless gear in the first place...lighter/smaller.
Bill, br br I have been researching the Sony A600... (show quote)


I have found the 16-50 Kit lens to be adequate for prints to the size you quoted though it is not the best out there, and the image quality is probably still better than most 4/3 or smaller sensor single lens cameras. But, what kit lens from any manufacturer is the same quality as their upgraded lenses?

The sensor in the A6000 is a 24 megapixel 1.5 crop so it should have IQ that is as good or better than any crop DSLR with the only limitation being the lens.

I certainly agree that using an adaptor and big lenses defeats the purpose of the A6000. I think an 18-200 E lens might be a good choice on the 6000 body, but I don't I don't know anything about them or their IQ.

Bill

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Apr 1, 2015 09:59:05   #
rjaywallace Loc: Wisconsin
 
After considerable research, I selected a Fujifilm X100T p&s camera for the following reasons: small form factor, relatively light while still robust enough for travel, fixed lens with 35mm field of view, large APS-C sensor, on-camera flash, hybrid live view viewfinder, advanced electronic viewfinder, 9-blade shutter diaphragm, great build quality, and numerous options to customize. The Fuji X100T was recently given a DPReview Silver Award and an overall score of 81% (bordering on Gold).

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Apr 1, 2015 10:00:48   #
Algernon Loc: Milwaukee, Wisconsin
 
Regarding the Sony A6000 16-50 kit lens.

I guess it depends on what you compare it to. I am not going to claim it is superior to other similar lens for other systems. You can find many detractors.

However, my primary needs were to go with a smaller sized camera. When comparing the 16-50 to P&S lens' IQ, it is far superior. That makes me happy. Frankly, I am kind of amazed what Sony did with designing such a small lens.

Everyone has different needs and values certain characteristics differently. I think the original poster is asking the right question -- namely, why did we choose our camera, rather than simply asking people to venture their opinions on what camera he should purchase. That way he can make his own value judgements.

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Apr 1, 2015 10:01:15   #
River Runner Loc: Minnesota
 
I have just acquired the new Nikon Coolpix P900. I have had a very short time to see what it can help me accomplish with limited skill. I take mostly nature / landscapes or views of people and scenes on trips.
I decided to get the P900 in order to have a wide range of capability and good quality with just one piece of equipment to carry. So far I am very happy with it!
All three attachments are hand held with no post adjustments.

View from my deck
View from my deck...

Closeup of the far riverbank same vantage point
Closeup of the far riverbank same vantage point...

Monday's Moon
Monday's Moon...

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Apr 1, 2015 10:25:19   #
Jackdoor Loc: Huddersfield, Yorkshire.
 
BobT wrote:
As I see it, and after a lot of pondering over it, I still can't decide which way to go. A) smaller, faster aperture P&S along with a superzoom AKA: bridge camera, B) DSLR with a few basic, but quality lenses, that cover most applications, or C) Smaller/lighter ILC (ie mirrorless), also with a few basic lenses.
I guess what I'll be hearing is what YOU have chosen to use...which is fine...as long as you explain how/why you've come to that. Perhaps the most meaningful responses might involve giving me a list of what-all I should be considering to make such a choice. Though I've done this, there may be a thing or two that I haven't considered.
I like to be able to print my best images up to maybe 16x20 (at the largest). And I shoot basically everything, but with favors going to nature/wildlife at the top of the list. Also family, cityscapes, and landscape/scenics.
I don't want much gear. Just enough to get the job done, and without having to make decisions of which to take when, if I were to have more than one solution. Want only 1 solution.
Can you shed some light in helping me make a decision?
As I see it, and after a lot of pondering over it,... (show quote)


Depends so much on what you're happy to spend, and how pernickety you are, but for me the best compromise is micro 4/3 systems. P&S limited by sensor size or zoom range, bridge by sensor size and huge body, interchangeable lens cameras with larger sensors limited by large size of lenses and systems, except Fuji which are wonderful but limited range of expensive lenses.
Panasonic's GX7 and Olympus OMD E-M10 good value, OMD E-M1 and E-M5II are excellent, but you can get an OMD E-M5 (mark I) and 3 lenses at silly prices: http://www.digitalcamerawarehouse.com.au/prod11864.htm . That 45mm 1.8 is an absolute gem.

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Apr 1, 2015 10:29:24   #
Jackdoor Loc: Huddersfield, Yorkshire.
 
minniev wrote:
I use Olympus m43 cameras (EM1 and EM5) with an assortment of Olympus and Panasonic lenses. I really like the ergonomics, the EVF, the touchscreen and the in camera image stabilization. The two cameras and full 6-lens kit (14-45, 40-150, 75-300, 12&20&45 primes) weigh less than 5 lbs), which is very comfortable to travel with. Image quality is very high, with the exception of very low light/high ISO. I print up to 13x19 and 24x24 at home, send out for larger sizes with no compromises in quality.

if you look at mirrorless cameras, be sure to assess the lens array as well as the cameras themselves. Mirrorless is young. Some systems don't have many lenses yet, and some have lenses that are as large as regular DSLR lenses so that if weight is a factor, you aren't really cutting down on much at all. The lens system was the deciding factor in my choice.

No matter what you decide, please try to handle the cameras you are interested in. How a camera feels in your hands and the way the buttons fit to your fingers is so important. I've known people who have spent lots of money on a great camera only to find that it was extremely uncomfortable in their own hands.
I use Olympus m43 cameras (EM1 and EM5) with an as... (show quote)


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Apr 2, 2015 06:16:55   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Wow! That's a wide open question. I've been using SLR's for decades, and I'm not about to give them up. I shoot with various Nikons and sell them and move up the line as new models are introduced. I also have some smaller, pocket-sized cameras that I can carry when a DSLR is too big.

Lenses are the most important consideration, of course. I prefer fast to cheap, but I also prefer refurb or used to new. I recently got a pair of previous generation Nikon lenses: 35-70 and 80-200mm, both f/2.8. The two together cost less than one of the modern variety.

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Apr 2, 2015 07:02:23   #
Gary Truchelut Loc: Coldspring, TX
 
I like to shoot wildlife, mostly birds and other moving objects like sports and car racing. The only choice form me was a dslr with long lens. I had a Canon SX50 and didn't keep it long as it couldn't get good in flight shots. I like the live viewfinder of a dslr. I bought my wife a Panasonic Lumix FZ150 which she loves and I use it occasionally but I always pick up my dslr when I'm serious about getting the shot that I want. Maybe someday I'll switch, but for now it's a dslr for me.

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Apr 2, 2015 07:32:28   #
Erv Loc: Medina Ohio
 
Hi Clint. What is the longest lens you can get for your setup?



Cdouthitt wrote:
Personally, I'd go with mirrorless, m4/3 to be specific. If you click on my user name, my personal website is there if you'd like to see some general examples (the homepage cycles through some of my favorite shots,mostly taken with my current gear).

Since November 2013 I've shot solely with m4/3. I don't miss my DSLR at all. It does everything (and better), and it's with me everywhere since it's so much smaller and lighter.

The em10 would be a great body to start with along with the kit lenses 14-42 and 40-150 (not the pro, but the $119 option) and a fast prime like the 45mm f1.8
Personally, I'd go with mirrorless, m4/3 to be spe... (show quote)

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Apr 2, 2015 07:50:43   #
Trentc Loc: Denver, CO
 
The Olympus EM1 is a great option. Excellent lens selection, light weight, great image quality, weather resistant...the list goes on. Got rid of my DSLR system and have no regrets. I went with the Oly for the same reason many others have listed: wanted a more compact, lighter, and transportable system. Fits that bill perfectly. I have heard a few people complain that many of the lenses are overpriced, mostly because there is a misperception that the physical size of the lens should dictate the price. Good glass is good glass and costs money. Since buying this camera last year, I have become fascinated with the idea of using fixed focal length lenses for 98% of my work, which just makes the system that much smaller and more compact. Plus the fixed focal length lens selection from Panasonic and Olympus is very comprehensive (at least at the shorter focal lengths). You can't go wrong with this system. Once you get a selection of micro4/3 lenses, there is a variety of bodies available to expand your system even more, if you so choose.

Now, with all that being said,there are so many fantastic cameras out there, it is hard to choose (and fun to research and shop around). Here is a deal almost too good to pass up...

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=sony+nex7k%2Fb&N=0&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ps

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Apr 2, 2015 07:58:09   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
Erv wrote:
Hi Clint. What is the longest lens you can get for your setup?


Native m4/3 mount:
75-300mm
Later this summer 300mm f4 plus eMC-14

4/3 mount (AF with MMF-3)
300 mm f2.8 plus ec-20 (600mm f4)
Sigma 50-500

Custom adaptor (manual focus)
??? What the longest lens you can use?

My longest lens is a 200mm f4. I used to use my 50-200mm swd with ec14 giving me a 283mm f4 (double that for ff terms) without any issues, but I sold it to fund other lenses.

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