Shedding the Film Mindset
Mar 21, 2015 10:48:53 #
geezer7
Loc: Michigan
I have been shooting mostly digital since about 2010. I have used 35mm and medium format cameras since 1970. It has proven difficult for me to get away from the film mindset of being frugal with the number of images I take.
The solution is obvious - take more photos! But I am interested if others have had similar experiences?
For example, I bought my D7100 in late June 2014 and to date have only taken 500 photos.
The solution is obvious - take more photos! But I am interested if others have had similar experiences?
For example, I bought my D7100 in late June 2014 and to date have only taken 500 photos.
Mar 21, 2015 10:52:30 #
Shedding it?
EMBRACE IT! Taking zillions of bad capture in order to maybe, possibly, eventually have one that could be interesting will never replace the know how you had.
Don't fall for the 'good enough' mentality of digital serial shooters.
EMBRACE IT! Taking zillions of bad capture in order to maybe, possibly, eventually have one that could be interesting will never replace the know how you had.
Don't fall for the 'good enough' mentality of digital serial shooters.
Mar 21, 2015 10:54:04 #
geezer7 wrote:
I have been shooting mostly digital since about 2010. I have used 35mm and medium format cameras since 1970. It has proven difficult for me to get away from the film mindset of being frugal with the number of images I take.
The solution is obvious - take more photos! But I am interested if others have had similar experiences?
For example, I bought my D7100 in late June 2014 and to date have only taken 500 photos.
The solution is obvious - take more photos! But I am interested if others have had similar experiences?
For example, I bought my D7100 in late June 2014 and to date have only taken 500 photos.
Maybe at first. 500 images is less than a week's average for me.
Mar 21, 2015 11:02:04 #
Yes, I absolutely had the same experience!
It did take a while to come to grips with the new way of thinking, but it comes.
I found it easier to think of it as unlimited film - still valuable, but there for the taking :-D
Don't just take a photo. Take the ONE you want, then experiment with what else might tickle your fancy!
You might just find another way of looking at your subject you really like!
Of course, I switched to digital in 1999 :shock:
GT
It did take a while to come to grips with the new way of thinking, but it comes.
I found it easier to think of it as unlimited film - still valuable, but there for the taking :-D
Don't just take a photo. Take the ONE you want, then experiment with what else might tickle your fancy!
You might just find another way of looking at your subject you really like!
Of course, I switched to digital in 1999 :shock:
GT
geezer7 wrote:
I have been shooting mostly digital since about 2010. I have used 35mm and medium format cameras since 1970. It has proven difficult for me to get away from the film mindset of being frugal with the number of images I take.
The solution is obvious - take more photos! But I am interested if others have had similar experiences?
For example, I bought my D7100 in late June 2014 and to date have only taken 500 photos.
The solution is obvious - take more photos! But I am interested if others have had similar experiences?
For example, I bought my D7100 in late June 2014 and to date have only taken 500 photos.
Mar 21, 2015 11:18:45 #
machia
Loc: NJ
geezer7 wrote:
I have been shooting mostly digital since about 2010. I have used 35mm and medium format cameras since 1970. It has proven difficult for me to get away from the film mindset of being frugal with the number of images I take.
The solution is obvious - take more photos! But I am interested if others have had similar experiences?
For example, I bought my D7100 in late June 2014 and to date have only taken 500 photos.
The solution is obvious - take more photos! But I am interested if others have had similar experiences?
For example, I bought my D7100 in late June 2014 and to date have only taken 500 photos.
Taking photographs digitally at burst rate was a novelty for me, it slows down though, like everything else the novelty wears off. For me it was like having a motor drive on my old SLR, lol. Having shot a lot of different types of photography over the past forty years, it was model photography that would have benefited with motor drive as capturing expressions was critical. Others like architectural or landscape photography was all about the set-up. So the nice thing about these dslr's is that you have a built in " motor drive " when needed, which is a great feature.
So in your case the novelty of fast firing didn't hit you which is a good thing really, because I think the mindset of burst mode to capture a shot is actually robbing up coming photographers of something we all had to do, and that is developing your eye.
Mar 21, 2015 11:29:06 #
geezer7 wrote:
I have been shooting mostly digital since about 2010. I have used 35mm and medium format cameras since 1970. It has proven difficult for me to get away from the film mindset of being frugal with the number of images I take.
The solution is obvious - take more photos! But I am interested if others have had similar experiences?
For example, I bought my D7100 in late June 2014 and to date have only taken 500 photos.
The solution is obvious - take more photos! But I am interested if others have had similar experiences?
For example, I bought my D7100 in late June 2014 and to date have only taken 500 photos.
As another who shot film for a long time before switching to digital, I had no problem taking more shots. But it doesn't have to mean mindless "spray and pray." Shooting anything with people or moving subjects of any kind, being able to shoot as much as you want is invaluable. In particular, I love not having to worry about missing shots changing film. With film, shooting any kind of event, If there were some important things coming up and I was coming to the end of a roll of film, I would often go ahead and pull out an incomplete roll and load a new one to make sure I wouldn't miss anything.
Mar 21, 2015 11:34:51 #
You're doing what digital photographers should do in order to get better. Why would you want to stop being that way?
Mar 21, 2015 11:42:31 #
geezer7 wrote:
I have been shooting mostly digital since about 2010. I have used 35mm and medium format cameras since 1970. It has proven difficult for me to get away from the film mindset of being frugal with the number of images I take.
The solution is obvious - take more photos! But I am interested if others have had similar experiences?
For example, I bought my D7100 in late June 2014 and to date have only taken 500 photos.
The solution is obvious - take more photos! But I am interested if others have had similar experiences?
For example, I bought my D7100 in late June 2014 and to date have only taken 500 photos.
I have a similliar background. I found the ability to shoot 1 to 2 hundred shots per session liberating. I no longer have to worry about how much $ I might waste trying to get the "perfect " shot.
Mar 21, 2015 12:59:58 #
boberic wrote:
I no longer have to worry about how much $ I might waste trying to get the "perfect " shot.
Digital shots are NOT free. I've kinda sorta compared prices on many used camera bodies with various shutter counts and concluded that a DSLR depreciates at about one cent per shot. Not a big deal? It is if you spray and pray a few hundred shots per day.
Mar 21, 2015 13:00:38 #
Mar 21, 2015 13:07:00 #
geezer7 wrote:
I have been shooting mostly digital since about 2010. I have used 35mm and medium format cameras since 1970. It has proven difficult for me to get away from the film mindset of being frugal with the number of images I take.
The solution is obvious - take more photos! But I am interested if others have had similar experiences?
For example, I bought my D7100 in late June 2014 and to date have only taken 500 photos.
The solution is obvious - take more photos! But I am interested if others have had similar experiences?
For example, I bought my D7100 in late June 2014 and to date have only taken 500 photos.
I do "PICTURE DAY" at sports clubs and as much as I want to speed up things, I find that taking shots of kids, especially the younger ones, can result in taking at least 3 shots per kid. That could add up to hundreds per shoot. Thank goodness for LightRoom, as its not how many shots but how fast can you do selections and post edit.
Mar 21, 2015 13:09:06 #
OddJobber wrote:
Digital shots are NOT free. I've kinda sorta compared prices on many used camera bodies with various shutter counts and concluded that a DSLR depreciates at about one cent per shot. Not a big deal? It is if you spray and pray a few hundred shots per day.
Didn't mean to say that digital shooting is free, nothing is ,of course. And I don't spay and prey either. But I thing that you will agree that you will have to "waste" many shots to get the BIF photo that you want, and it would be a whole lot more expensive with color film than digital I just looked at my spelling. One word sums it up- ambysmal
Mar 21, 2015 13:10:31 #
geezer7 wrote:
I have been shooting mostly digital since about 2010. I have used 35mm and medium format cameras since 1970. It has proven difficult for me to get away from the film mindset of being frugal with the number of images I take.
The solution is obvious - take more photos! But I am interested if others have had similar experiences?
For example, I bought my D7100 in late June 2014 and to date have only taken 500 photos.
The solution is obvious - take more photos! But I am interested if others have had similar experiences?
For example, I bought my D7100 in late June 2014 and to date have only taken 500 photos.
It should not matter I don't think so. I had my DSLR since Dec 2013 and I think I got about 2000 shots.
Mar 21, 2015 13:30:48 #
That is not taking into account that if you just replace your shutter the cost drops significantly, to something in the neighborhood of 1/10 of a cent per shot.
Granted not free, but around 1000 times less than film.
And, that cost is only incurred at the time of replacement, again making the shot to shot cost nothing.
Carrying costs are lower too. Storage, maintenance etc.
GT
Granted not free, but around 1000 times less than film.
And, that cost is only incurred at the time of replacement, again making the shot to shot cost nothing.
Carrying costs are lower too. Storage, maintenance etc.
GT
OddJobber wrote:
Digital shots are NOT free. I've kinda sorta compared prices on many used camera bodies with various shutter counts and concluded that a DSLR depreciates at about one cent per shot. Not a big deal? It is if you spray and pray a few hundred shots per day.
Mar 21, 2015 13:37:10 #
Good points from all. I'm just saying that there is a depreciation cost. Geezer's D7100 with 500 shots will fetch more than one with 100,000.
And I do spray and pray sometimes. Trying to catch a song bird with it's beak open can take several dozen shots. With film I probably would give up after 3 or 4 shots because of the cost.
And I do spray and pray sometimes. Trying to catch a song bird with it's beak open can take several dozen shots. With film I probably would give up after 3 or 4 shots because of the cost.
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