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Feb 13, 2015 00:24:34   #
DTCOP Loc: Camarillo, CA
 
I want to use a projector to portray different backgrounds on my studio shots. Trying to get away from plain white seamless and I hope to project different scenes and textures as background. A friend recommends Epson Home Theater 500. Has anyone any experience in the area and suggestions. I'd appreciate it greatly

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Feb 13, 2015 05:26:05   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
Are you talking about back projection onto a frosted screen or thin white fabric?? OR are you talking about projection from front to add the scene to the subject?? Certainly an interesting idea.

Perhaps barrow one first.

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Feb 13, 2015 07:13:41   #
Capture48 Loc: Arizona
 
DTCOP wrote:
I want to use a projector to portray different backgrounds on my studio shots. Trying to get away from plain white seamless and I hope to project different scenes and textures as background. A friend recommends Epson Home Theater 500. Has anyone any experience in the area and suggestions. I'd appreciate it greatly


The word projection brings to mind a projector in front of your background. This may be hard to photograph, and light you put on the subject could spill onto your background and ruin it. If you are just talking about a seemless white paper background, that can be very easy to remove in photoshop. Just be prepared with a different color in case the subject shows up in something white. But very easy to cut subject out and place another background in.

BUT these are tricky to shoot, angles of the background and subject have to be the same shot with the same lens, and same lighting etc. They can be hard to pul off and look correct.

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Feb 13, 2015 11:49:51   #
DTCOP Loc: Camarillo, CA
 
I will be projecting on to seamless white paper. Only the hair light(s) will remain on and they will be flagged to keep light off of the paper. Other wise the paper will show as a gray when it is not being projected on. I realize that the projector will have to be on the same angle to preclude distortion of the background scene. Some projectors I have seen can be adjusted for this. I think I might have to side light or even back light the model to keep the background "pure". I need some input from Hogs that have actually done this or own a projector. Thanks to all... I appreciate any and all info. Flying by the seat of my pants on this one
Don

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Feb 14, 2015 10:04:17   #
Papa Joe Loc: Midwest U.S.
 
DTCOP wrote:
I want to use a projector to portray different backgrounds on my studio shots. Trying to get away from plain white seamless and I hope to project different scenes and textures as background. A friend recommends Epson Home Theater 500. Has anyone any experience in the area and suggestions. I'd appreciate it greatly


The only really successful projection method I've seen was in a HUGE area, with a tremendous screen behind the subject, but separated by a good deal of space between screen and subject, (so lighting on subject would not affect the projected image). If memory serves me correctly, I think the projector was behind the screen. One would need a very large space, or a warefhouse to duplicate that setup, but I saw some results, and it did work well.
Have you looked into Greenscreen Wizard?

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Feb 14, 2015 10:06:35   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
DTCOP wrote:
I want to use a projector to portray different backgrounds on my studio shots. Trying to get away from plain white seamless and I hope to project different scenes and textures as background. A friend recommends Epson Home Theater 500. Has anyone any experience in the area and suggestions. I'd appreciate it greatly


Easier to have your backgrounds shot separately then shoot the subject against a simple (white or other color) background, remove the background with a layer mask, then apply the background as a layer in photoshop. It's quick easy enough to do - and you have much more flexibility regarding background subject, brightness, etc etc etc.

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Feb 14, 2015 10:30:47   #
Carl 383 Loc: Southampton UK
 
Gene51 wrote:
Easier to have your backgrounds shot separately then shoot the subject against a simple (white or other color) background, remove the background with a layer mask, then apply the background as a layer in photoshop. It's quick easy enough to do - and you have much more flexibility regarding background subject, brightness, etc etc etc.


Sounds like a simple, inexpensive way to do it.
Thanks for your input, it was very helpful.
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Feb 14, 2015 11:17:16   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Carl 383 wrote:
Sounds like a simple, inexpensive way to do it.
Thanks for your input, it was very helpful.
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:


You might want to check out the OnOne Software site - they have a few examples of how you can use their software to do the same thing.

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Feb 14, 2015 11:38:32   #
Carl 383 Loc: Southampton UK
 
Gene51 wrote:
You might want to check out the OnOne Software site - they have a few examples of how you can use their software to do the same thing.


Thanks again.
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Feb 14, 2015 13:18:25   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
DTCOP wrote:
I want to use a projector to portray different backgrounds on my studio shots. Trying to get away from plain white seamless and I hope to project different scenes and textures as background. A friend recommends Epson Home Theater 500. Has anyone any experience in the area and suggestions. I'd appreciate it greatly

Check out VirtualBackgrounds, they have a complete system for what you want to do!

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Feb 14, 2015 21:59:32   #
Reinaldokool Loc: San Rafael, CA
 
DTCOP wrote:
I will be projecting on to seamless white paper. Only the hair light(s) will remain on and they will be flagged to keep light off of the paper. Other wise the paper will show as a gray when it is not being projected on. I realize that the projector will have to be on the same angle to preclude distortion of the background scene. Some projectors I have seen can be adjusted for this. I think I might have to side light or even back light the model to keep the background "pure". I need some input from Hogs that have actually done this or own a projector. Thanks to all... I appreciate any and all info. Flying by the seat of my pants on this one
Don
I will be projecting on to seamless white paper. ... (show quote)

I've actually done this by a rear projection screen when I was working in a TV studio during my college years.

But the more preferred way today is a green-screen. (It doesn't have to really be green, some people use a blue screen depending on the subject. It is called "chromakey" The green backdrop is easier to mask out and replace with Corel PS or Photoshop. This is much easier than the projector

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Feb 15, 2015 00:27:49   #
DTCOP Loc: Camarillo, CA
 
Thanks... I checked it out and it looks awesome... until I got to the FAQ's and saw that the price range is 4,000 to 9,000. The screen size I would need would be in the 6 grand range. I'm a stock photographer making from pennies to barely dollars on a sale so it would take a few eons to amortize it. I may go with On One or I can get a projector.... an Epson Home Cinema 500 for $375. So, I will sleep on it for a while. If anyone has any more idesa I will welcome them. A rear projector is out because I don't have the space to include it in the studio without a major overhaul. Then again there's always wining the lottery?????

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Feb 15, 2015 12:15:28   #
Carl 383 Loc: Southampton UK
 
I would give Gene51's answer some serious consideration as it is an inexpensive solution and the "screen size" could be any size you want.

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Feb 15, 2015 13:24:22   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
speters wrote:
Check out VirtualBackgrounds, they have a complete system for what you want to do!


From Virtual Backgrounds: "Financing Available - U.S. Only"
That usually translated to I can't afford it. :XD:

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