Yeah, this is one of those questions! :) I'm doing some fiscal planning for my next GAS attack, and am curious as to how some my fellow Hoggers would look at this. Currently have a 6D, 150-500 Sig, 70-200 f2.8L, 24-205L, and Tokina 100 f2.8 Macro. Shoot primarily Landscapes, Wildlife, and Birds (getting more and more into the birds). The 500 continues to be marginal for wildlife, so the question is......my original thought was to go big - Canon 500 f4 with either the 1.4 or 2x- probably about 8.5K. This might be a two to three year fiscal planning project. I slapped my Sig on an old Rebel XT I started this whole deal with, and the obvious light went on... maybe I should be looking at a 7DII body (about 1.8K) instead. Recognizing that I would be sacrificing quality of glass, but the financial tradeoff is (and subsequent planning) is significant. Everything I have read about the 7D would fit well into my wildlife/bird deal, and the 6D would be my landscape, low-light go to. So, how stupid am I, and where would you go?
Its never a bad idea to have a good crop sensor body to back up a full frame body. If for nothing else that the reason you have just discovered.
Good luck!
Shellback
Loc: North of Cheyenne Bottoms Wetlands - Kansas
It's what I did. I have the Nikon D610 FX - a full frame and the Tamron 150-600 - just purchased a D7000 DX crop sensor body for birding with the big lens - now I have a 225 - 900.
The other reason I got the second body - I don't have to change lens all the time - and here, it is dusty so I'm constantly fighting that.
I also made sure the model I was getting used the same battery, cable and memory cards - saves from buying more stuff - just a thought ;)
So, yes - IMO, the second body is the way to go - and I went refurbished on mine through B&H and got all the accessories and a warranty.
Shellback wrote:
It's what I did. I have the Nikon D610 FX - a full frame and the Tamron 150-600 - just purchased a D7000 DX crop sensor body for birding with the big lens - now I have a 225 - 900.
The other reason I got the second body - I don't have to change lens all the time - and here, it is dusty so I'm constantly fighting that.
I also made sure the model I was getting used the same battery, cable and memory cards - saves from buying more stuff - just a thought ;)
Thanks for your response. This direction would sure save a lot of money (and time scrounging the money up, LOL)
So, yes - IMO, the second body is the way to go - and I went refurbished on mine through B&H and got all the accessories and a warranty.
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Thanks for your response. This would certainly save a lot of money (and time in scrounging the money up, LOL)
boberic
Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
jteee wrote:
Yeah, this is one of those questions! :) I'm doing some fiscal planning for my next GAS attack, and am curious as to how some my fellow Hoggers would look at this. Currently have a 6D, 150-500 Sig, 70-200 f2.8L, 24-205L, and Tokina 100 f2.8 Macro. Shoot primarily Landscapes, Wildlife, and Birds (getting more and more into the birds). The 500 continues to be marginal for wildlife, so the question is......my original thought was to go big - Canon 500 f4 with either the 1.4 or 2x- probably about 8.5K. This might be a two to three year fiscal planning project. I slapped my Sig on an old Rebel XT I started this whole deal with, and the obvious light went on... maybe I should be looking at a 7DII body (about 1.8K) instead. Recognizing that I would be sacrificing quality of glass, but the financial tradeoff is (and subsequent planning) is significant. Everything I have read about the 7D would fit well into my wildlife/bird deal, and the 6D would be my landscape, low-light go to. So, how stupid am I, and where would you go?
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With the addition of the 7d11 the hardest thing you will have to decide is which body will be the primary and which will be the back up
A 7DII. You already have some nice glass.
boberic wrote:
With the addition of the 7d11 the hardest thing you will have to decide is which body will be the primary and which will be the back up
If this is the direction I ultimately go (I'm leaning this direction), both have great strengths; but you have a good point.
Haydon wrote:
A 7DII. You already have some nice glass.
Seems I'm generating a consensus. Thanks for your response.
And just to throw a curve ball at you ...... why not wait a few weeks to see if the new 50 megapixel 5DS R that is supposedly imminent eventuates soon.
A cropped 50 megapixel without the anti-aliasing filter image may achieve your wildlife goals and knock the socks off your landscape work..
davidrb
Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
jteee wrote:
Yeah, this is one of those questions! :) I'm doing some fiscal planning for my next GAS attack, and am curious as to how some my fellow Hoggers would look at this. Currently have a 6D, 150-500 Sig, 70-200 f2.8L, 24-205L, and Tokina 100 f2.8 Macro. Shoot primarily Landscapes, Wildlife, and Birds (getting more and more into the birds). The 500 continues to be marginal for wildlife, so the question is......my original thought was to go big - Canon 500 f4 with either the 1.4 or 2x- probably about 8.5K. This might be a two to three year fiscal planning project. I slapped my Sig on an old Rebel XT I started this whole deal with, and the obvious light went on... maybe I should be looking at a 7DII body (about 1.8K) instead. Recognizing that I would be sacrificing quality of glass, but the financial tradeoff is (and subsequent planning) is significant. Everything I have read about the 7D would fit well into my wildlife/bird deal, and the 6D would be my landscape, low-light go to. So, how stupid am I, and where would you go?
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Stupid? Hardly. Your approach is refreshing. If the 8.5K is your price guesstimate you are overlooking the best source of pre-owned equipment. The lens is almost always listed on KEH, usually on B&H and Adorama, and sometimes your cousin Vinnie finds one in the trunk of his car. Mid-low$5K gets top quality. I also coveted this lens. The weight is somewhat of a problem, but I resigned myself to tripod mount almost always. The new version of the 400mm DO f/2.8 apparently has been released. If you can find one it sells for $6900 and weighs in at about 5.5lbs. That is kind of light considering the reach. The 400mm DO on a crop 7D II separated by a T/C gives you all kinds of possible distances. Glad it's your game. GL
lighthouse wrote:
And just to throw a curve ball at you ...... why not wait a few weeks to see if the new 50 megapixel 5DS R that is supposedly imminent eventuates soon.
A cropped 50 megapixel without the anti-aliasing filter image may achieve your wildlife goals and knock the socks off your landscape work..
Hmmmm. Interesting thought. This will need some research. thanks.
davidrb wrote:
Stupid? Hardly. Your approach is refreshing. If the 8.5K is your price guesstimate you are overlooking the best source of pre-owned equipment. The lens is almost always listed on KEH, usually on B&H and Adorama, and sometimes your cousin Vinnie finds one in the trunk of his car. Mid-low$5K gets top quality. I also coveted this lens. The weight is somewhat of a problem, but I resigned myself to tripod mount almost always. The new version of the 400mm DO f/2.8 apparently has been released. If you can find one it sells for $6900 and weighs in at about 5.5lbs. That is kind of light considering the reach. The 400mm DO on a crop 7D II separated by a T/C gives you all kinds of possible distances. Glad it's your game. GL
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Definitely haven't ruled out pre-owned. These lenses don't often come available, but would certainly help the budget side of things. The 400, although a great lens, would still require the 2x to get to the reach I'm looking for. The $$$ lens, and a crop factor body may be a bit much for my penny scrounging approach.
I just got the 6D & 24-105 f/4 L. I have the 60D and am keeping as for now.
I can add a blessing to the 7D 2 and add that I see a hole in the landscape. I have used the 10-22 EFs on the 60D and love it. The 24-105 is weak on the wide side.
I am looking at 16-35f/4 L, &/or 14mm Korean 2.8. Just a thought and just saying. You have lots of option, including selling the XT and buying a 7D classic. They are going for 500-600 USD and I don't think they will go down much if and when you would switch to Mark 2.
J. R.
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