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Feb 4, 2015 14:18:01   #
Los-Angeles-Shooter Loc: Los Angeles
 
The media insists that it’s raining measles and everyone should get the MMR vaccine, made by Merck, to protect themselves.

Even Obama has publicly stated, “those who don’t get their shots can pose a risk to infants and other people who can’t get vaccinated.”
He assures parents that vaccine science is “pretty indisputable.”
What science is he looking at?

First of all, as a non-vaccinated person, you’re more likely to die from an ant bite than you are from measles.

Are you afraid of ants?

Then you shouldn’t be afraid of measles or the unvaccinated.

Still though, millions of parents are frothing at the mouth, enraged at parents who choose not to vaccinate, supposedly risking herd immunity. The bigots among them want to sue the family who refuses to accept pharmaceutical propaganda and questions vaccine safety and effectiveness.

Well, you can try and sue me.

I have three unvaccinated kids (along with a 1986 BMW and a much newer, 1999 Toyota 4-Runner with really nice tires – big time assets for the litigious).

Unlike working with the media, at least I’d be able to show all the facts in a courtroom.

I’d start by proving that herd immunity is a failed hypothesis and should never be used to divide parents or rationalize the blind use of vaccines.
Fortunately, herd immunity is very easy to test: Find a vaccinated herd and monitor them for infection.

Repeat.

That’s science: The observation of reproducible results

Observing the MMR vaccinated herd, we find that they get sick, often. The New England Journal of Medicine published that, “An outbreak of measles occurred among adolescents in Corpus Christi, Texas, in the spring of 1985, even though vaccination requirements for school attendance had been thoroughly enforced.”

A thorough investigation, as outlined in my book, Over-The-Counter Natural Cures, shows how this same scenario has happened worldwide, numerous times. Even naturally acquired immunity fails to “protect the herd!”

This failure of herd immunity was also stressed by the medical journal, Clinical Infectious Diseases. Warning against using the vaccine for protection, they wrote, “Other problems arise because herd immunity is not the same as biologic (immunologic) immunity; individuals protected only by indirect herd effects remain fully susceptible to infection, should they ever be exposed.”

Translation, “Herd immunity can’t protect you. Only your immune system can.”

Unfortunately, the MMR vaccine won’t bolster your immune system. It’s a complete failure. That science is indisputable and proven both in the lab and the courtroom.

In 2012, a class action lawsuit —United States v. Merck & Co. and Chatom Primary Care v. Merck & Co. – two virologists from Merck proved that the drug giant “falsified testing of the efficacy of the drug and misstated the drug’s efficacy to the government as having a 95 percent efficacy rate.”

In the court trial, it was discovered that, “Merck incorporated the use of animal antibodies to artificially inflate the results, but it too failed to achieve Merck’s fabricated efficacy rate. Confronted with two failed methodologies, Merck then falsified the test data to guarantee the results it desired.

Having reached the desired, albeit falsified, efficacy threshold, Merck submitted these fraudulent results to the Food & Drug Administration (“FDA”) and European Medicines Agency (“EMA”).”

The CDC, along with Obama and the media need to check their facts better. After all, it’s a child’s life we’re talking about here!

It gets worse.

Following the trail of the the government “science” leads you to CDC researcher Poul Thorsen. He was indicted by the Department of Justice for vaccine research fraud and money laundering. He is currently on the Office of the Inspector Generals most wanted list.

There’s very little to debate when you have the facts.

The unvaccinated parents have justifiable concerns to avoid shots. But, the vaccinated, even more so.

One brave father stepped forward to show pictures of his 15 month old son playing with his tool box and scrambling through the house to use them on furniture and toys. Days later he received his MMR shot. 18 years later, he’s still in diapers and learning to speak.

I’ll risk measles any day over Merck’s bullshit science.

When herd immunity and vaccines are proven failures, you can’t use them as evidence to encourage vaccination or to sue a family who refuses to accept the flawed status-quo perpetuated by the pharmaceutically compliant politicians and the media.

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Feb 4, 2015 14:38:39   #
smith934 Loc: Huntsville, Alabama
 
Los-Angeles-Shooter wrote:
The media insists that it’s raining measles and everyone should get the MMR vaccine, made by Merck, to protect themselves.

Even Obama has publicly stated, “those who don’t get their shots can pose a risk to infants and other people who can’t get vaccinated.”
He assures parents that vaccine science is “pretty indisputable.”
What science is he looking at?

First of all, as a non-vaccinated person, you’re more likely to die from an ant bite than you are from measles.

Are you afraid of ants?

Then you shouldn’t be afraid of measles or the unvaccinated.

Still though, millions of parents are frothing at the mouth, enraged at parents who choose not to vaccinate, supposedly risking herd immunity. The bigots among them want to sue the family who refuses to accept pharmaceutical propaganda and questions vaccine safety and effectiveness.

Well, you can try and sue me.

I have three unvaccinated kids (along with a 1986 BMW and a much newer, 1999 Toyota 4-Runner with really nice tires – big time assets for the litigious).

Unlike working with the media, at least I’d be able to show all the facts in a courtroom.

I’d start by proving that herd immunity is a failed hypothesis and should never be used to divide parents or rationalize the blind use of vaccines.
Fortunately, herd immunity is very easy to test: Find a vaccinated herd and monitor them for infection.

Repeat.

That’s science: The observation of reproducible results

Observing the MMR vaccinated herd, we find that they get sick, often. The New England Journal of Medicine published that, “An outbreak of measles occurred among adolescents in Corpus Christi, Texas, in the spring of 1985, even though vaccination requirements for school attendance had been thoroughly enforced.”

A thorough investigation, as outlined in my book, Over-The-Counter Natural Cures, shows how this same scenario has happened worldwide, numerous times. Even naturally acquired immunity fails to “protect the herd!”

This failure of herd immunity was also stressed by the medical journal, Clinical Infectious Diseases. Warning against using the vaccine for protection, they wrote, “Other problems arise because herd immunity is not the same as biologic (immunologic) immunity; individuals protected only by indirect herd effects remain fully susceptible to infection, should they ever be exposed.”

Translation, “Herd immunity can’t protect you. Only your immune system can.”

Unfortunately, the MMR vaccine won’t bolster your immune system. It’s a complete failure. That science is indisputable and proven both in the lab and the courtroom.

In 2012, a class action lawsuit —United States v. Merck & Co. and Chatom Primary Care v. Merck & Co. – two virologists from Merck proved that the drug giant “falsified testing of the efficacy of the drug and misstated the drug’s efficacy to the government as having a 95 percent efficacy rate.”

In the court trial, it was discovered that, “Merck incorporated the use of animal antibodies to artificially inflate the results, but it too failed to achieve Merck’s fabricated efficacy rate. Confronted with two failed methodologies, Merck then falsified the test data to guarantee the results it desired.

Having reached the desired, albeit falsified, efficacy threshold, Merck submitted these fraudulent results to the Food & Drug Administration (“FDA”) and European Medicines Agency (“EMA”).”

The CDC, along with Obama and the media need to check their facts better. After all, it’s a child’s life we’re talking about here!

It gets worse.

Following the trail of the the government “science” leads you to CDC researcher Poul Thorsen. He was indicted by the Department of Justice for vaccine research fraud and money laundering. He is currently on the Office of the Inspector Generals most wanted list.

There’s very little to debate when you have the facts.

The unvaccinated parents have justifiable concerns to avoid shots. But, the vaccinated, even more so.

One brave father stepped forward to show pictures of his 15 month old son playing with his tool box and scrambling through the house to use them on furniture and toys. Days later he received his MMR shot. 18 years later, he’s still in diapers and learning to speak.

I’ll risk measles any day over Merck’s bullshit science.

When herd immunity and vaccines are proven failures, you can’t use them as evidence to encourage vaccination or to sue a family who refuses to accept the flawed status-quo perpetuated by the pharmaceutically compliant politicians and the media.
The media insists that it’s raining measles and ev... (show quote)
Hope You have a chin strap for you tinfoil hat. Oh, and a double layer of foil will probably help.

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Feb 4, 2015 14:44:37   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
I like the little hats they wear ...

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Feb 4, 2015 14:44:51   #
RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Los-Angeles-Shooter wrote:
The media insists that it’s raining measles and everyone should get the MMR vaccine, made by Merck, to protect themselves.

Even Obama has publicly stated, “those who don’t get their shots can pose a risk to infants and other people who can’t get vaccinated.”
He assures parents that vaccine science is “pretty indisputable.”
What science is he looking at?

First of all, as a non-vaccinated person, you’re more likely to die from an ant bite than you are from measles.

Are you afraid of ants?

Then you shouldn’t be afraid of measles or the unvaccinated.

Still though, millions of parents are frothing at the mouth, enraged at parents who choose not to vaccinate, supposedly risking herd immunity. The bigots among them want to sue the family who refuses to accept pharmaceutical propaganda and questions vaccine safety and effectiveness.

Well, you can try and sue me.

I have three unvaccinated kids (along with a 1986 BMW and a much newer, 1999 Toyota 4-Runner with really nice tires – big time assets for the litigious).

Unlike working with the media, at least I’d be able to show all the facts in a courtroom.

I’d start by proving that herd immunity is a failed hypothesis and should never be used to divide parents or rationalize the blind use of vaccines.
Fortunately, herd immunity is very easy to test: Find a vaccinated herd and monitor them for infection.

Repeat.

That’s science: The observation of reproducible results

Observing the MMR vaccinated herd, we find that they get sick, often. The New England Journal of Medicine published that, “An outbreak of measles occurred among adolescents in Corpus Christi, Texas, in the spring of 1985, even though vaccination requirements for school attendance had been thoroughly enforced.”

A thorough investigation, as outlined in my book, Over-The-Counter Natural Cures, shows how this same scenario has happened worldwide, numerous times. Even naturally acquired immunity fails to “protect the herd!”

This failure of herd immunity was also stressed by the medical journal, Clinical Infectious Diseases. Warning against using the vaccine for protection, they wrote, “Other problems arise because herd immunity is not the same as biologic (immunologic) immunity; individuals protected only by indirect herd effects remain fully susceptible to infection, should they ever be exposed.”

Translation, “Herd immunity can’t protect you. Only your immune system can.”

Unfortunately, the MMR vaccine won’t bolster your immune system. It’s a complete failure. That science is indisputable and proven both in the lab and the courtroom.

In 2012, a class action lawsuit —United States v. Merck & Co. and Chatom Primary Care v. Merck & Co. – two virologists from Merck proved that the drug giant “falsified testing of the efficacy of the drug and misstated the drug’s efficacy to the government as having a 95 percent efficacy rate.”

In the court trial, it was discovered that, “Merck incorporated the use of animal antibodies to artificially inflate the results, but it too failed to achieve Merck’s fabricated efficacy rate. Confronted with two failed methodologies, Merck then falsified the test data to guarantee the results it desired.

Having reached the desired, albeit falsified, efficacy threshold, Merck submitted these fraudulent results to the Food & Drug Administration (“FDA”) and European Medicines Agency (“EMA”).”

The CDC, along with Obama and the media need to check their facts better. After all, it’s a child’s life we’re talking about here!

It gets worse.

Following the trail of the the government “science” leads you to CDC researcher Poul Thorsen. He was indicted by the Department of Justice for vaccine research fraud and money laundering. He is currently on the Office of the Inspector Generals most wanted list.

There’s very little to debate when you have the facts.

The unvaccinated parents have justifiable concerns to avoid shots. But, the vaccinated, even more so.

One brave father stepped forward to show pictures of his 15 month old son playing with his tool box and scrambling through the house to use them on furniture and toys. Days later he received his MMR shot. 18 years later, he’s still in diapers and learning to speak.

I’ll risk measles any day over Merck’s bullshit science.

When herd immunity and vaccines are proven failures, you can’t use them as evidence to encourage vaccination or to sue a family who refuses to accept the flawed status-quo perpetuated by the pharmaceutically compliant politicians and the media.
The media insists that it’s raining measles and ev... (show quote)


If Obama came out for breathing, would you stop?

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Feb 4, 2015 16:49:51   #
Los-Angeles-Shooter Loc: Los Angeles
 
Instead of idiotic personal slurs, why not try discussing the facts and issues. There is considerable scientific argument (and evidence) that much of the benefit attributed to vaccines actually came from improvements in sanitation, drinking water, and other societal improvements.

There is plenty of questioning, especially of certain vaccines, in the medical and scientific community. There is also a lot of profit in vaccines, which skews the research and sometimes leads to outright fraud (see OP above). Another issue is intimidation of both the scientific anti-vaccine voices and those in the lay community.

It is an interesting fact that the vaccine industry, via some very accomplished lobbying, has largely "immunized" itself from liability for the harm caused by vaccines.

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Feb 4, 2015 20:52:41   #
James Shaw
 
Los-Angeles-Shooter wrote:
The media insists that it’s raining measles and everyone should get the MMR vaccine, made by Merck, to protect themselves.

Even Obama has publicly stated, “those who don’t get their shots can pose a risk to infants and other people who can’t get vaccinated.”
He assures parents that vaccine science is “pretty indisputable.”
What science is he looking at?

First of all, as a non-vaccinated person, you’re more likely to die from an ant bite than you are from measles.

Are you afraid of ants?

Then you shouldn’t be afraid of measles or the unvaccinated.

Still though, millions of parents are frothing at the mouth, enraged at parents who choose not to vaccinate, supposedly risking herd immunity. The bigots among them want to sue the family who refuses to accept pharmaceutical propaganda and questions vaccine safety and effectiveness.

Well, you can try and sue me.

I have three unvaccinated kids (along with a 1986 BMW and a much newer, 1999 Toyota 4-Runner with really nice tires – big time assets for the litigious).

Unlike working with the media, at least I’d be able to show all the facts in a courtroom.

I’d start by proving that herd immunity is a failed hypothesis and should never be used to divide parents or rationalize the blind use of vaccines.
Fortunately, herd immunity is very easy to test: Find a vaccinated herd and monitor them for infection.

Repeat.

That’s science: The observation of reproducible results

Observing the MMR vaccinated herd, we find that they get sick, often. The New England Journal of Medicine published that, “An outbreak of measles occurred among adolescents in Corpus Christi, Texas, in the spring of 1985, even though vaccination requirements for school attendance had been thoroughly enforced.”

A thorough investigation, as outlined in my book, Over-The-Counter Natural Cures, shows how this same scenario has happened worldwide, numerous times. Even naturally acquired immunity fails to “protect the herd!”

This failure of herd immunity was also stressed by the medical journal, Clinical Infectious Diseases. Warning against using the vaccine for protection, they wrote, “Other problems arise because herd immunity is not the same as biologic (immunologic) immunity; individuals protected only by indirect herd effects remain fully susceptible to infection, should they ever be exposed.”

Translation, “Herd immunity can’t protect you. Only your immune system can.”

Unfortunately, the MMR vaccine won’t bolster your immune system. It’s a complete failure. That science is indisputable and proven both in the lab and the courtroom.

In 2012, a class action lawsuit —United States v. Merck & Co. and Chatom Primary Care v. Merck & Co. – two virologists from Merck proved that the drug giant “falsified testing of the efficacy of the drug and misstated the drug’s efficacy to the government as having a 95 percent efficacy rate.”

In the court trial, it was discovered that, “Merck incorporated the use of animal antibodies to artificially inflate the results, but it too failed to achieve Merck’s fabricated efficacy rate. Confronted with two failed methodologies, Merck then falsified the test data to guarantee the results it desired.

Having reached the desired, albeit falsified, efficacy threshold, Merck submitted these fraudulent results to the Food & Drug Administration (“FDA”) and European Medicines Agency (“EMA”).”

The CDC, along with Obama and the media need to check their facts better. After all, it’s a child’s life we’re talking about here!

It gets worse.

Following the trail of the the government “science” leads you to CDC researcher Poul Thorsen. He was indicted by the Department of Justice for vaccine research fraud and money laundering. He is currently on the Office of the Inspector Generals most wanted list.

There’s very little to debate when you have the facts.

The unvaccinated parents have justifiable concerns to avoid shots. But, the vaccinated, even more so.

One brave father stepped forward to show pictures of his 15 month old son playing with his tool box and scrambling through the house to use them on furniture and toys. Days later he received his MMR shot. 18 years later, he’s still in diapers and learning to speak.

I’ll risk measles any day over Merck’s bullshit science.

When herd immunity and vaccines are proven failures, you can’t use them as evidence to encourage vaccination or to sue a family who refuses to accept the flawed status-quo perpetuated by the pharmaceutically compliant politicians and the media.
The media insists that it’s raining measles and ev... (show quote)
Very naive.

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Feb 4, 2015 21:05:47   #
Los-Angeles-Shooter Loc: Los Angeles
 
James Shaw wrote:
Very naive.


It is indeed very naive to blindly accept everything the medical-drug industry says. Especially so in light of the many scandals involving fraud, defective medicines and "studies," and a long history of horrible effects discovered after widespread use (as with Thalidomide).

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Feb 4, 2015 21:17:11   #
James Shaw
 
Quote:
James Shaw wrote:
Very naive.
Los-Angeles-Shooter wrote:
It is indeed very naive to blindly accept everything the medical-drug industry says. Especially so in light of the many scandals involving fraud, defective medicines and "studies," and a long history of horrible effects discovered after widespread use (as with Thalidomide).


One should never "blindly accept everything" anyone says, medical-drug industry or whomever.

If you really believe you are misled, then consider never taking the polio-virus or smallpox vaccines. Smallpox, alone, was responsible for 300-500 million deaths during the 20th century, alone.

It was eradicated from the earth by vaccination, but smallpox virus is still an ideal bio-weapon for terrorists and it is still stored in some freezers around the world.

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Feb 4, 2015 23:23:13   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Let's hope your boys don't get the mumps and suffer some of the consequences of that disease.

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Feb 5, 2015 00:15:49   #
phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO
 
smith934 wrote:
Hope You have a chin strap for you tinfoil hat. Oh, and a double layer of foil will probably help.

Cute, but unfortunately the only issue it addresses is your fashion sense.

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Feb 5, 2015 00:18:28   #
phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO
 
Los-Angeles-Shooter wrote:
It is indeed very naive to blindly accept everything the medical-drug industry says. Especially so in light of the many scandals involving fraud, defective medicines and "studies," and a long history of horrible effects discovered after widespread use (as with Thalidomide).


You need to understand that anyone who not only supports Barack Obama but believes in him is easily led, and unable to see beyond what is popular.

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Feb 5, 2015 01:51:14   #
gmcase Loc: Galt's Gulch
 
phcaan wrote:
You need to understand that anyone who not only supports Barack Obama but believes in him is easily led, and unable to see beyond what is popular.


I have found this to be true. After all, they are Gruberites, easily duped and useful idiots for the propaganda of their handlers. Even after it was revealed they were duped they still defend the lies they were so easily fed and digested. Now that is double stupid.

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Feb 5, 2015 11:01:55   #
James Shaw
 
phcaan wrote:
You need to understand that anyone who not only supports Barack Obama but believes in him is easily led, and unable to see beyond what is popular.


Gee, is it now Obama that is spreading measles?

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Feb 5, 2015 11:04:28   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
You and your ref are dangerous idiots. You will kill innocents.

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Feb 5, 2015 11:25:30   #
NeilL Loc: British-born Canadian
 
Los-Angeles-Shooter wrote:
Instead of idiotic personal slurs, why not try discussing the facts and issues. There is considerable scientific argument (and evidence) that much of the benefit attributed to vaccines actually came from improvements in sanitation, drinking water, and other societal improvements.

There is plenty of questioning, especially of certain vaccines, in the medical and scientific community. There is also a lot of profit in vaccines, which skews the research and sometimes leads to outright fraud (see OP above). Another issue is intimidation of both the scientific anti-vaccine voices and those in the lay community.

It is an interesting fact that the vaccine industry, via some very accomplished lobbying, has largely "immunized" itself from liability for the harm caused by vaccines.
Instead of idiotic personal slurs, why not try dis... (show quote)


Didn't you know, LAS, that the libturds on this site know everything. They even try to have us believe that God consults with them first before doing anything. One of them made the statement that "He went to college and took a term in Meteorological Science" and "He knows more about the subject than anybody else" - including those scientists who have made this subject a life-long study. How arrogant is that? The proof that they are total intellectual failures is that they elected Obama for A SECOND TERM!!

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