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Jan 31, 2015 12:24:42   #
NealB Loc: Lowell Indiana
 
I recently stopped at an out of my area camera shop and was checking out the inventory. The salesman was trying to sell me a Tamron lens by telling me the Following. "Tamron buys their chips for the lenses they produce directly from Canon and Nikon. Sigma does not so their lens have more problems and only work with camera bodies produced over 5 year period." I find this hard to believe. I have never heard of a company spending money to develop a product and then sell it to a competitor who is going to undercut them on price in the same market.

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Jan 31, 2015 12:30:29   #
tramsey Loc: Texas
 
I don't know about Tamron or Sigma lens except they are both quality lens IF you buy their top lens. I know the Sony sells their camera sensors to other companies.

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Jan 31, 2015 12:47:19   #
blankmange Loc: down on the farm...
 
sounds like the salesman gets a higher commission from selling Tamrons....

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Jan 31, 2015 12:47:31   #
NealB Loc: Lowell Indiana
 
tramsey wrote:
I don't know about Tamron or Sigma lens except they are both quality lens IF you buy their top lens. I know the Sony sells their camera sensors to other companies.


That is very true. The difference is that Sony has a division that for for years before they went into the camera business developed sensors and operated a foundry as a Teir1 vendor as its only business. This business is larger yet today than their camera sales. Samsung does the same thing, but as we have seen they are running to problems because they decided to compete with their customers. Of course their is more at stake with the Samsung situation than Sony. Sony has also forged many joint ventures with various companies over technology. The camera/lens business by modern business standards is not a Mega-large market business, it considered medium to low end large business. Just from my knowledge of the automotive manufacturing business the smaller the market the less sharing of technology happens. This is way I find this statement hard to believe. The other issue is, if Tamron purchases from Canon and Nikon. Why did they have issues with the firmware on the 150-600mm lens at launch for the Canon mount lens?

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Jan 31, 2015 12:48:54   #
NealB Loc: Lowell Indiana
 
blankmange wrote:
sounds like the salesman gets a higher commission from selling Tamrons....


That may be quite true because they had both brands in stock so you would assume a sale is a sale.

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Jan 31, 2015 13:06:27   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
NealB wrote:
I recently stopped at an out of my area camera shop and was checking out the inventory. The salesman was trying to sell me a Tamron lens by telling me the Following. "Tamron buys their chips for the lenses they produce directly from Canon and Nikon. Sigma does not so their lens have more problems and only work with camera bodies produced over 5 year period." I find this hard to believe. I have never heard of a company spending money to develop a product and then sell it to a competitor who is going to undercut them on price in the same market.
I recently stopped at an out of my area camera sho... (show quote)


Its been a LONG time since I have heard that kind of crap from a salesman.
Even longer since I believed any of it!
What many people do not know about is the Tamron "Whist" program in which the salesman himself gets a bonus check for every lens they personally close a sale on every month. This is over and above the stores meagher profit margin on these products and is paid directly to that salesman by Tamron.

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Jan 31, 2015 13:20:35   #
NealB Loc: Lowell Indiana
 
MT Shooter wrote:
Its been a LONG time since I have heard that kind of crap from a salesman.
Even longer since I believed any of it!
What many people do not know about is the Tamron "Whist" program in which the salesman himself gets a bonus check for every lens they personally close a sale on every month. This is over and above the stores meagher profit margin on these products and is paid directly to that salesman by Tamron.


Any time a salesman starts bashing a product and does not start selling me on the virtues of his product I just leave. I left without spending a dime in the store.

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Feb 1, 2015 05:47:49   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
NealB wrote:
I recently stopped at an out of my area camera shop and was checking out the inventory. The salesman was trying to sell me a Tamron lens by telling me the Following. "Tamron buys their chips for the lenses they produce directly from Canon and Nikon. Sigma does not so their lens have more problems and only work with camera bodies produced over 5 year period." I find this hard to believe. I have never heard of a company spending money to develop a product and then sell it to a competitor who is going to undercut them on price in the same market.
I recently stopped at an out of my area camera sho... (show quote)


Did the guy try to give you a great deal on a bridge that connects Brooklyn to Manhattan before you left the store? Was his name George C. Parker or PT Barnum, or a descendant of either? :)

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Feb 1, 2015 07:50:48   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
NealB wrote:
Any time a salesman starts bashing a product and does not start selling me on the virtues of his product I just leave. I left without spending a dime in the store.

Right! That's a very bad technique.

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Feb 1, 2015 13:14:31   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
NealB wrote:
That may be quite true because they had both brands in stock so you would assume a sale is a sale.


Not necessarily to a salesman. They often get "spiffs" (payoffs) for selling selected products.

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Feb 1, 2015 16:26:02   #
photoman022 Loc: Manchester CT USA
 
I wonder how much the seller on Ebay got for my Tammy 70-300 and 24-70? I can't speak to the quality of the salesman, but I love my Tammys! I could not afford the Nikon equivalents.

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Feb 1, 2015 20:27:35   #
NealB Loc: Lowell Indiana
 
photoman022 wrote:
I wonder how much the seller on Ebay got for my Tammy 70-300 and 24-70? I can't speak to the quality of the salesman, but I love my Tammys! I could not afford the Nikon equivalents.


The issue to me was not the brand of lens, it was just the out and out bashing of the brand lens I inquired about. He should have told me about the lens I inquired about and then offered the Tamron as a option. I own a Tamron lens and am happy with it. Salesmanship is the ability to convince the buyer to buy his product because it has more value that what the buyer had been considering.

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