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Silhouettes, multiple speedlights, and optical transmission.
Jan 29, 2015 14:08:20   #
Anvil Loc: Loveland, CO
 
The other day, I wanted to experiment with silhouettes, where the back light is created by directing speedlights at a rear wall. The technique is simple enough, but I did run into a small snag.

I currently do not have wireless radio transmission capability between my speedlights. I have to rely on optical transmission, which means line of sight between the two speedlights. This limits my freedom of placement. The master is on a 10-meter TTL cord, connected to the camera. Because the slave must see the master, I had to point the lights at an angle to the wall. Ideally, I'd like to position each light horizontally, with the light heads directed straight out. A reflector card on each would direct the light to a large spot on the wall.

As you can see, with this shot, I ended up with uneven lighting on the wall. I started investigating radio wireless systems. I want something affordable, but also able to use TTL metering. I came across the Yongnuo YN-622C system. (I have Canon.) A camera controller plus two transceivers is about $140, on Amazon. It is supposed to handle full TTL functions. Terrific price, if it works.



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Jan 29, 2015 14:18:31   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
Anvil wrote:
The other day, I wanted to experiment with silhouettes, where the back light is created by directing speedlights at a rear wall. The technique is simple enough, but I did run into a small snag.

I currently do not have wireless radio transmission capability between my speedlights. I have to rely on optical transmission, which means line of sight between the two speedlights. This limits my freedom of placement. The master is on a 10-meter TTL cord, connected to the camera. Because the slave must see the master, I had to point the lights at an angle to the wall. Ideally, I'd like to position each light horizontally, with the light heads directed straight out. A reflector card on each would direct the light to a large spot on the wall.

As you can see, with this shot, I ended up with uneven lighting on the wall. I started investigating radio wireless systems. I want something affordable, but also able to use TTL metering. I came across the Yongnuo YN-622C system. (I have Canon.) A camera controller plus two transceivers is about $140, on Amazon. It is supposed to handle full TTL functions. Terrific price, if it works.
The other day, I wanted to experiment with silhoue... (show quote)

Yongnuo also makes an exact replica of the 600 EX RT and the ST-E3-RT, you get both (combo) for under $300. They suppose to work just like the Canon and rumors say, you can even mix them and they still perform fine. Just a thought. I do shoot with Canon's 600 RT's and I'm very happy with them, for my 580's, I use PW's TT5's. In your example shot, did you set your flashes to the widest setting (like 24mm for example)?

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Jan 29, 2015 14:21:24   #
tainkc Loc: Kansas City
 
It looks good. Also, check into the Phottix products. They also have flash units that do not need a receiver. They are 4gz. wireless. I bought their Strato ll set. It was right at $100.00 including tax. I am very happy with them, but I do not think my particular ones do TTL. They do have those that will do TTL.

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Jan 29, 2015 14:21:41   #
twowindsbear
 
With your optical slave devices, if you point the slave's sensor toward the wall, and the wired remote flash toward the same wall, the slave sensor is not sensitive enough to trigger from the reflection? Perhaps placing a small diffusing device on the slave's sensor would help?

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Jan 29, 2015 14:32:41   #
Anvil Loc: Loveland, CO
 
I did set my flashes to the widest setting.

I had a little bit of trouble getting the slave to see the master, with certain placements. In some test firings, the slave actually fired late. I couldn't figure that one out.

Rather than spending too much time trying to solve this, particular line of sight problem, I just compromised on the wall coverage. I have experienced enough of these line of sight problems, before, that I resolved I was going to have to go radio, sooner or later. The Yongnuo looked good, so I went with that.

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Jan 29, 2015 20:37:31   #
ediesaul
 
Anvil wrote:
The other day, I wanted to experiment with silhouettes, where the back light is created by directing speedlights at a rear wall.


I don't mind the uneven light. I think it adds to the photo, not detracts. I like that you got the man's glasses so clearly.

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Jan 29, 2015 20:46:45   #
Anvil Loc: Loveland, CO
 
Thanks. It's actually a self-silhouette.

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Jan 29, 2015 21:58:08   #
tainkc Loc: Kansas City
 
Anvil wrote:
Thanks. It's actually a self-silhouette.
Wouldn't that be a selfoutte?

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Jan 29, 2015 22:05:55   #
Anvil Loc: Loveland, CO
 
Either that, or a silhouie.

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Jan 30, 2015 09:35:58   #
Boone Loc: Groundhog Town USA
 
You will not be unhappy with Yongnuo. Bullet proof! Thanks, Boone. :thumbup:

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Jan 30, 2015 10:52:10   #
amyinsparta Loc: White county, TN
 
I agree with Edie. I think the unevenness adds to the photo. I like it!

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