Gun stats for anti gun people
Jan 24, 2015 10:51:03 #
Jan 24, 2015 13:47:36 #
Jan 24, 2015 13:58:27 #
davidv wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pELwCqz2JfE
people kill people, not guns!!
Jan 24, 2015 14:39:07 #
Jan 24, 2015 14:54:07 #
Bad statistics using nuanced terminology is all this appears to be. He says that the US has a lower murder rate, despite having the highest per capita gun ownership rate in the world. What this guy ignores is that the US also has the highest murder rate with guns than anywhere else in the world. I'm not making a case for or against gun ownership, just pointing out a flawed argument.
Jan 24, 2015 16:40:30 #
OldDoc wrote:
Bad statistics using nuanced terminology is all this appears to be. He says that the US has a lower murder rate, despite having the highest per capita gun ownership rate in the world. What this guy ignores is that the US also has the highest murder rate with guns than anywhere else in the world. I'm not making a case for or against gun ownership, just pointing out a flawed argument.
What counts in the end is murder rate, not method, killers use guns because it is easy. No gun, they will use edged weapons, clubs etc., the army taught me how to use a rolled up newspaper, wire and numerous other things as improvised weapons.
No matter what the killer used, you are just as dead, there is no such thing as deader or deadest, there is just dead
Jan 25, 2015 00:28:18 #
robertjerl wrote:
What counts in the end is murder rate, not method, killers use guns because it is easy. No gun, they will use edged weapons, clubs etc., the army taught me how to use a rolled up newspaper, wire and numerous other things as improvised weapons.
No matter what the killer used, you are just as dead, there is no such thing as deader or deadest, there is just dead
No matter what the killer used, you are just as dead, there is no such thing as deader or deadest, there is just dead
The murder rate is important, but the video misrepresents the story. Yes, the US is mid-range in murder rate, but if you exclude third world countries, and focus only on industrialized nations the story is much different. Among the 21 top industrialized nations the US murder rate is the highest, and not by a little. The murder rate for males 15-24 years of age in the US is 21.9/100,000 (and 4 times as high for black males of the same age bracket). The next highest murder rate in industrialized countries is Scotland, with a rate of 5/100,000. Austria has the lowest rate, 0.3/100,000.
Jan 25, 2015 00:38:08 #
OldDoc wrote:
The murder rate is important, but the video misrep... (show quote)
And the vast majority of those murders are crime related, drugs, gang wars, etc. Most of the "children" killed are gang members killed by other gang members. In some case studies they counted "children" who were legally adults. And many studies count those killed by police, security guards and people defending themselves right in with the other "murder" victims.
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