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Sailing into Sunlight
Jan 13, 2015 23:37:08   #
photoninja1 Loc: Tampa Florida
 
Rainy day a little later.


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Jan 14, 2015 09:36:59   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
I like this image. I stared at it a long time though, because something felt "off." Finally I decided it was the sky. There's nothing there of interest and it takes away from the balance of the image. So, I think I'd crop out a LOT of the sky and make the image focus be the whitecaps, which are lovely.

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Jan 14, 2015 10:53:21   #
photoninja1 Loc: Tampa Florida
 
AzPicLady wrote:
I like this image. I stared at it a long time though, because something felt "off." Finally I decided it was the sky. There's nothing there of interest and it takes away from the balance of the image. So, I think I'd crop out a LOT of the sky and make the image focus be the whitecaps, which are lovely.


Thanks for your input. I think I agree.

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Jan 14, 2015 14:22:15   #
magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
AzPicLady wrote:
I like this image. I stared at it a long time though, because something felt "off." Finally I decided it was the sky. There's nothing there of interest and it takes away from the balance of the image. So, I think I'd crop out a LOT of the sky and make the image focus be the whitecaps, which are lovely.
Yes, removing about 3/4 of the sky would result in an improved dynamic. At first I had questions about the ship being centered on the horizon but this seems to be one of those cases where it works best. All three elements in this shot, the pier, the ship and the waves are very important in making this shot interesting. Remove any one of those and you have a boring capture. Good job! Welcome aboard! I'm ready!

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Jan 14, 2015 20:43:16   #
conkerwood
 
I like this pic a lot. Shooting it landscape to provide more space in front so that the boat was not so central may have been an improvement in the eyes of some, and it probably would make a great shot. And of course you could crop a little off the left bottom and top to come up with a landscape with the ship in a better position but you would lose all the lovely detail in the breaking waves. So I am ok with this crop because the vertical format emphasises the depth, from the details of the wave in front to the obviously distant ship and beyond. But I would strongly disagree about any large scale crop of the sky. As it is the horizon is around the thirds line and the balance works well. A small crop of the sky may be ok but make any large scale chop and you lose that balance. But I do like the atmosphere, living by the coast it is a light and feeling that is very familiar to me and it is beautiful.

Peter

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Jan 15, 2015 16:32:13   #
photoninja1 Loc: Tampa Florida
 
conkerwood wrote:
I like this pic a lot. Shooting it landscape to provide more space in front so that the boat was not so central may have been an improvement in the eyes of some, and it probably would make a great shot. And of course you could crop a little off the left bottom and top to come up with a landscape with the ship in a better position but you would lose all the lovely detail in the breaking waves. So I am ok with this crop because the vertical format emphasises the depth, from the details of the wave in front to the obviously distant ship and beyond. But I would strongly disagree about any large scale crop of the sky. As it is the horizon is around the thirds line and the balance works well. A small crop of the sky may be ok but make any large scale chop and you lose that balance. But I do like the atmosphere, living by the coast it is a light and feeling that is very familiar to me and it is beautiful.

Peter
I like this pic a lot. Shooting it landscape to pr... (show quote)


Different viewpoints are what makes this site interesting. Thanks for your comments

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Jan 16, 2015 17:52:36   #
Nightski
 
Photoninjia ... I am curious why you set your camera to:
1/500 sec
f/22
ISO 10,000

You have a heck of a lot of noise and it looks like you tried to correct it in the sky, but you tried to avoid the boat and dock since the areas around those have a pretty wide swath of noisiness.

Why F/22? At 70mm if you would have chosen an aperture of F/8, and if your subject was at least 105 feet away, you would have had focus to infinity. Also, why was a shutter speed of 1/500 of a second necessary? Those big boats don't move that fast. If I am wrong .. please instruct me. But I think you could have shot with a much lower ISO and had a much more detailed image. The detail on the boat is destroyed by noise and the dock could have much more clarity.

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Jan 19, 2015 10:38:25   #
photoninja1 Loc: Tampa Florida
 
It was a windy, turbulent day with light changing every few seconds. I set the camera up a few minutes before, when the clouds were heavy and the morning light was very low. I had been trying to shoot seagulls soaring in the wind and needed broad DOF and high shutter speed to stop the action. When I saw this shot developing, I just forgot about it. In retrospect, I'd have been better off shooting at f8, (Usually my go-to setting) as you suggested, and dropping the ISO. I did need to continue to shoot at a high shutter speed to freeze the wave action. Another problem I caused myself was shooting at -2/3 f stop and thereby exacerbating the noise problem. I'm paranoid about blowing out highlights, and I just have to get over it and start pushing the histogram to the right. The detail on the boat is about a mile away and atmospherics interfere, especially in high wind when it whips ocean spray up between you and the ship. I increased contrast to try to get the illusion of more sharpness, but there is only so much you can do.

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Jan 19, 2015 11:53:12   #
Nightski
 
photoninja1 wrote:
It was a windy, turbulent day with light changing every few seconds. I set the camera up a few minutes before, when the clouds were heavy and the morning light was very low. I had been trying to shoot seagulls soaring in the wind and needed broad DOF and high shutter speed to stop the action. When I saw this shot developing, I just forgot about it. In retrospect, I'd have been better off shooting at f8, (Usually my go-to setting) as you suggested, and dropping the ISO. I did need to continue to shoot at a high shutter speed to freeze the wave action. Another problem I caused myself was shooting at -2/3 f stop and thereby exacerbating the noise problem. I'm paranoid about blowing out highlights, and I just have to get over it and start pushing the histogram to the right. The detail on the boat is about a mile away and atmospherics interfere, especially in high wind when it whips ocean spray up between you and the ship. I increased contrast to try to get the illusion of more sharpness, but there is only so much you can do.
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May I suggest shooting in manual? :-D

I set my camera up in this order:
Aperture
Shutter speed
ISO as needed.

That way I can go with the lowest ISO possible. What's the difference if you are always having to adjust EV or if you are having to adjust your ISO?

The difference is that you make that ISO decision.

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Jan 19, 2015 14:28:54   #
photoninja1 Loc: Tampa Florida
 
I always choose my ISO manually. In this case I had a dumb-ass attack and left it too high. :oops:

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