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Dec 21, 2014 00:13:53   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
This is one of the best preaching of the Cross from Billy Graham I have seen, he has so much passion for the Gospel that all of us Christians need. The preaching of the cross is just as powerful today as it was back in 1958 and thousands of years before.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp-h4KR7Kco

1 Cor 1:18-
For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.

Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumbling block, and unto the Greeks foolishness; But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

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Dec 21, 2014 00:49:47   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Racmanaz wrote:
This is one of the best preaching of the Cross from Billy Graham I have seen, he has so much passion for the Gospel that all of us Christians need. The preaching of the cross is just as powerful today as it was back in 1958 and thousands of years before.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp-h4KR7Kco

1 Cor 1:18-
For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.

Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumbling block, and unto the Greeks foolishness; But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
This is one of the best preaching of the Cross fro... (show quote)


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Dec 21, 2014 02:48:33   #
slocumeddie Loc: Inside your head, again
 
Racmanaz wrote:
This is one of the best preaching of the Cross from Billy Graham I have seen, he has so much passion for the Gospel that all of us Christians need.

The preaching of the cross is just as powerful today as it was back in 1958 and thousands of years before.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp-h4KR7Kco

Billy Graham's words are just as bigoted today as they were in 1972. In a recorded encounter with Richard Nixon, Graham

openly voiced a belief that Jews control the American media, calling it a "stranglehold" during a 1972 conversation with

President Richard Nixon, according to a tape of the Oval Office meeting released by the National Archives......

****************************************

"This stranglehold has got to be broken or the country's going down the drain," the nation's best-known preacher

declared as he agreed with a stream of bigoted Nixon comments about Jews and their perceived influence in American life.

"You believe that?" Nixon says after the "stranglehold" comment.

"Yes, sir," Graham says.

"Oh, boy," replies Nixon. "So do I. I can't ever say that but I believe it."

"No, but if you get elected a second time, then we might be able to do something," Graham replies.

{Nixon speaking}
"The best Jews are actually the Israeli Jews."

"That's right," agrees Graham, who later concurs with a Nixon assertion that a "powerful bloc" of Jews confronts Nixon

in the media. "And they're the ones putting out the pornographic stuff," Graham adds.

"Well," says Nixon, "it's also, the Jews are irreligious, atheistic, immoral bunch of bastards."

Part of the conversation can be found at.......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wa7HngwBSM

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Dec 21, 2014 02:55:40   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
slocumeddie wrote:
Billy Graham's words are just as bigoted today as they were in 1972. In a recorded encounter with Richard Nixon, Graham

openly voiced a belief that Jews control the American media, calling it a "stranglehold" during a 1972 conversation with

President Richard Nixon, according to a tape of the Oval Office meeting released by the National Archives......

****************************************

"This stranglehold has got to be broken or the country's going down the drain," the nation's best-known preacher

declared as he agreed with a stream of bigoted Nixon comments about Jews and their perceived influence in American life.

"You believe that?" Nixon says after the "stranglehold" comment.

"Yes, sir," Graham says.

"Oh, boy," replies Nixon. "So do I. I can't ever say that but I believe it."

"No, but if you get elected a second time, then we might be able to do something," Graham replies.

{Nixon speaking}
"The best Jews are actually the Israeli Jews."

"That's right," agrees Graham, who later concurs with a Nixon assertion that a "powerful bloc" of Jews confronts Nixon

in the media. "And they're the ones putting out the pornographic stuff," Graham adds.

"Well," says Nixon, "it's also, the Jews are irreligious, atheistic, immoral bunch of bastards."

Part of the conversation can be found at.......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wa7HngwBSM
Billy Graham's words are just as bigoted today as ... (show quote)


LOL oh please, that audio is hard to make out and probably edited, he didn't say anything bigoted anyway, Jews did have a stronghold on many things...it's true, it does not mean he was bigoted at all. Stop trying to misrepresent someone you know nothing about. Why is this even an issue anyway?? this is about the Gospel not about Billy, you will go to any extent to discredit anyone who preaches the gospel....you have a sick mind Eddie and it's not going to work. This is about the Gospel truth, and it's the truth no matter what Billy has said or done.

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Dec 21, 2014 03:07:56   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Racmanaz wrote:
LOL oh please, that audio is hard to make out and probably edited, he didn't say anything bigoted anyway, Jews did have a stronghold on many things...it's true, it does not mean he was bigoted at all. Stop trying to misrepresent someone you know nothing about. Why is this even an issue anyway?? this is about the Gospel not about Billy, you will go to any extent to discredit anyone who preaches the gospel....you have a sick mind Eddie and it's not going to work. This is about the Gospel truth, and it's the truth no matter what Billy has said or done.
LOL oh please, that audio is hard to make out and ... (show quote)


LOL oh please is right .. you gettin in trouble again :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Dec 21, 2014 03:09:25   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
dirtpusher wrote:
LOL oh please is right .. you gettin in trouble again :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


:shock:

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Dec 21, 2014 03:12:14   #
slocumeddie Loc: Inside your head, again
 
Racmanaz wrote:
LOL oh please, that audio is hard to make out and probably edited, he didn't say anything bigoted anyway, Jews did have a stronghold on many things...it's true, it does not mean he was bigoted at all. Stop trying to misrepresent someone you know nothing about. Why is this even an issue anyway?? this is about the Gospel not about Billy, you will go to any extent to discredit anyone who preaches the gospel....you have a sick mind Eddie and it's not going to work. This is about the Gospel truth, and it's the truth no matter what Billy has said or done.
LOL oh please, that audio is hard to make out and ... (show quote)
That is very forgiving of you, Rac; You brought Billy up.....I didn't know you guys were on a first name basis.

Stop trying to represent someone you know nothing about. Were you even born in 1972 ? ? ?

Words have meaning Rac, even when you don't wan't to hear them.....

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Dec 21, 2014 03:15:19   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
slocumeddie wrote:
That is very forgiving of you, Rac; You brought Billy up.....I didn't know you guys were on a first name basis.

Stop trying to represent someone you know nothing about. Were you even born in 1972 ? ? ?

Words have meaning Rac, even when you don't wan't to hear them.....


Sadly, I was born in 1964 which makes me old :(. Words do have meaning but can be forgiven, besides it may have been out of context and wasn't entirely inaccurate. This does not mean he is a Jew hater or a bigot, he was just telling the truth on how he saw it.

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Dec 21, 2014 03:20:56   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Sadly, I was born in 1964 which makes me old :(. Words do have meaning but can be forgiven, besides it may have been out of context and wasn't entirely inaccurate. This does not mean he is a Jew hater or a bigot, he was just telling the truth on how he saw it.


so if those words were used while know could be wrong with the intention be forgiven. huh :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
could that be considered a mockery???????????// :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

born in 64 old :shock: :shock: :shock: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: you still a kid. lol old lol :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

you haven't even reached retirement :roll: :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD:

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Dec 21, 2014 03:25:42   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
dirtpusher wrote:
so if those words were used while know could be wrong with the intention be forgiven. huh :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
could that be considered a mockery???????????// :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

born in 64 old :shock: :shock: :shock: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: you still a kid. lol old lol :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

you haven't even reached retirement :roll: :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD:
so if those words were used while know could be wr... (show quote)


Ha! are you older than my young man? lol

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Dec 21, 2014 03:35:50   #
slocumeddie Loc: Inside your head, again
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Sadly, I was born in 1964 which makes me old :(. Words do have meaning but can be forgiven, besides it may have been out of context and wasn't entirely inaccurate. This does not mean he is a Jew hater or a bigot, he was just telling the truth on how he saw it.

Right.....there is plenty of documentation, it was not taken out of context, and is entirely accurate.....

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Dec 21, 2014 09:46:56   #
TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails
 
slocumeddie wrote:
"Billy Graham's words are just as bigoted today as they were in 1972."

Bigot: a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

So calling someone a bigot makes you a bigot because you are intolerant of their opinions.

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Dec 21, 2014 11:51:24   #
user47602 Loc: ip 304.0.0.33.32
 
TrainNut wrote:
....Bigot: a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

So calling someone a bigot makes you a bigot because you are intolerant of their opinions.


So calling someone a bigot for calling someone a bigot makes you a bigot because you are intolerant of their opinions...

where will it end :roll:

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Dec 21, 2014 12:08:34   #
LarJgrip Loc: The Fraser Valley
 
user47602 wrote:
So calling someone a bigot for calling someone a bigot makes you a bigot because you are intolerant of their opinions...

where will it end :roll:


It doesn't without the cross. Bigotry is just a small facet in the "where will it end" question.

Hence the O/P and our need for the Cross of Christ. We've been cursed with a sin nature (thanks to Adam) and we need to be purchased backĀ…redeemed.

That's where the cross comes in and that is where it can end for some.

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Dec 21, 2014 12:15:16   #
user47602 Loc: ip 304.0.0.33.32
 
LarJgrip wrote:
It doesn't without the cross. Bigotry is just a small facet in the "where will it end" question.

Hence the O/P and our need for the Cross of Christ. We've been cursed with a sin nature (thanks to Adam) and we need to be purchased backĀ…redeemed.

That's where the cross comes in and that is where it can end for some.



thanks for taking the hit for Adam's sin... but it is not my sin. He was setup by God, snake and woman.

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