Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

RicknJude Loc: Quebec, Canada

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Some humor for the Attic. :lol: :D

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Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

It's ok that you atheist reject real science, it's not unusual for atheists to reject it. :)

OldDoc Loc: New York

The usual doubletalk by preachers masquerading as biochemists. In order for a protein to acquire a new function it might well have to lose its prior function. That happened in the case of the enzymes in the blood clotting cascade as well as in Lenski's experiments in which existing proteins in E. coli acquired the ability to metabolize glucose, a property they lacked prior to selection. Reading the summary at ICR, it looks like McLaughlin et al failed to look for other functions acquired by the mutated proteins. OTOH, they might have, but since I haven't read the primary paper, and am reluctant to rely on an ICR summary, I can't comment further. Take a look at Evolution of the new vertebrate head by co-option of an ancient chordate skeletal tissue

David Jandzik, Aaron T. Garnett, Tyler A. Square, Maria V. Cattell, Jr-Kai Yu & Daniel M. Medeiros
AffiliationsContributionsCorresponding author
Nature (2014) doi:10.1038/nature14000

for a nice example of a protein (FOX3) taking on a new role in the evolution of the vertebrate skeleton.

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

If Lenski's experiments was so ground breaking for evolution don't you think most of the Atheist leaders would be carrying that water bucket with them everywhere they debate? Yet none of them do in all the debates I have seen and I have seen many. So my own conclusion is that it's been so ineffective they decided not to use such a weak support evidence.

I'm very confident Dr Jeffery Tomkins knows what he is talking about and is educated well in his field. I would elect to listen to him than someone on UHH who claims his credentials on here. :) Have a good night

Dr. Jeffrey Tomkins earned a master’s degree in plant science in 1990 from the University of Idaho, where he performed research in plant hormones. He received his Ph.D. in Genetics from Clemson University in 1996. While at Clemson, he worked as a research technician in a plant breeding/genetics program, with a research focus in the area of quantitative and physiological genetics in soybean. After receiving his Ph.D., he worked at a genomics institute and became a faculty member in the Department of Genetics and Biochemistry at Clemson. He had become a Christian as an undergraduate at Washington State University in 1982, with a goal to eventually work as a scientist and author in the creation science field. In 2009, Dr. Tomkins joined the Institute for Creation Research as Research Associate. He is the primary author of The Design and Complexity of the Cell and a contributor to Guide to Creation Basics and Creation Basics & Beyond.

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

Now for this wonderful picture

slocumeddie Loc: Inside your head, again

Doc.....an ICR summary is just that.....an ICR summary. Don't expect any real science to surface. :roll:

slocumeddie Loc: Inside your head, again

Rac.....

All atheists are not evolutionists.....

All evolutionists are not atheists.....

Why are you very confident that Tomkins knows what he is talking about ? ? ?

After all, his academic goal was to eventually work as a scientist and author in the creation science field.

Thus he had already developed his beliefs, and then surrounded himself with pseudoscience to support his beliefs.

It is called confirmation bias, something a true scientist works hard to avoid.....Amen

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

Nope, you can say the same thing about all scientists and their beliefs

OldDoc Loc: New York

Rac: I'm afraid your confidence in Dr. Tomkins may be misplaced. I just finished reading the original article,and he has simply either misunderstood it or misrepresented its finding. What McLaughlin et al reported was that amino acid substitutions remote from binding domains can alter binding affinity. This is neither positive nor negative, it just is, but it may help explain how changes in proteins can result in changed affinity while maintaining the underlying function (i.e., a proteolytic enzyme remaining as such, but binding to a different substrate, causing protein breakdown of a different substrate than is normal).

And while you are disparaging Richard Lenski's work, which resulted in 228 full length, peer-reviewed researchpublications, you might want to compare that to Tomkins' 1 publication, apparently out of his dissertation. The remainder of his published works are theoretical pieces at best, but no experimental science is actually involved.

magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida

I was just going to mention the Hexaribonucleotide Binding Protein but you beat me to it.

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Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

LOL as if YOU knew what that was lol, I can understand Doc knowing about this but you?? LOLOLOL

magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida

I don't reject real science. The earth is an orb and not a cube. Jumping off the Empire State Building will kill ya and you are a bonafide nut job.

magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida

:lol: = sarcasim, joke, etc. LOLOLO

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

Really? atheists scientist thought Earths water came from comets, now they realize it doesn't lol... duh!!!! I challenge you to test the Empire state building theory of gravity ;)