Blown out Sky
Feb 20, 2012 23:45:31 #
OK so I am out hiking and come across a scene i like ,a scene i may not get back to again in years or ever, weather is not co operating what do you do to make the best of the opportunity? Don ;t take the photo ?
docrob wrote:
quote=Tomphoenix Thanks to those of you who offer... (show quote)
Feb 20, 2012 23:51:26 #
Michael O'
Loc: Midwest right now
Tomphoenix wrote:
Thanks to those of you who offered some C&C.Fo... (show quote)
Tomphoenix, some occasionally on these discussion sites tend to be blunt and crass. That type generally does not help others of us learn. Some just cannot connect the related aspects of "positive" and "attitude" and "learning". Such is life. Pay no mind. Se La Vie.
Michael O'
Feb 20, 2012 23:59:06 #
Thank you for your wisdom Michael O'.I don't mind blunt but being inconsiderate and having a pompass attitude i do mind. You know you can click on a name and see that individuals post. It is amazing how manipulated some photos are.
Michael O' wrote:
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Feb 21, 2012 04:06:28 #
tomphoenix,
In answer to your question (while I wait for the original to be posted) the answer is...no..don't wait to take the pic. Take it; you never know how it will look.
But learn to cull. Cull hard, cull ruthlessly.
That's part of what sets pro's apart from us Joes...they don't show everything they ever shot.
It's hard to not see more merit in a picture in than there really is but it's necessary.
I throw away 95% of what I shoot...I have to. I take a lot of mediocre shots.
Just a thought in dcrobs defense.
In answer to your question (while I wait for the original to be posted) the answer is...no..don't wait to take the pic. Take it; you never know how it will look.
But learn to cull. Cull hard, cull ruthlessly.
That's part of what sets pro's apart from us Joes...they don't show everything they ever shot.
It's hard to not see more merit in a picture in than there really is but it's necessary.
I throw away 95% of what I shoot...I have to. I take a lot of mediocre shots.
Just a thought in dcrobs defense.
Feb 21, 2012 06:52:46 #
Tom, Im delighted to see you out there shooting!
The goal is not nearly so fulfilling as the process, reaching, growing, living.
I give you two bonus points for being willing to expose yourself to criticism. --and even abuse -- in your quest.
Personally, I never mention a blown out sky when someone shows me a picture of their grandchild.
Yes this forum begs for criticism, that's it's reason for being. And on this forum I'd grant no holds barred. But let's ever be aware of and respect the experience of reaching as an end in itself.
Amen.
The goal is not nearly so fulfilling as the process, reaching, growing, living.
I give you two bonus points for being willing to expose yourself to criticism. --and even abuse -- in your quest.
Personally, I never mention a blown out sky when someone shows me a picture of their grandchild.
Yes this forum begs for criticism, that's it's reason for being. And on this forum I'd grant no holds barred. But let's ever be aware of and respect the experience of reaching as an end in itself.
Amen.
Feb 21, 2012 07:36:15 #
photocat
Loc: Atlanta, Ga
English_Wolf wrote:
1From there, How do you expect anyone to have a PP capable of dealing with the sky and the water reflection to maintain a viable image?
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Could be done and has been done, but one has to be very good with PP .
Feb 21, 2012 07:59:47 #
Tomphoenix wrote:
Taken early morning on a cloudy day. I like the first phot except the Sky is blown out. What should i had done or could i do to darken the sky. Shot with Panasonic fz35 bridge camera.
i took the image and done some hdr toning on it. could not put any more color in the sky. but it can be painted in, but i do not know how to go about doing that. but anyway, here is my rendition i hope you like.
Feb 21, 2012 08:00:55 #
I believe this photo analysis section is dedicate to specific questions? Lets all show our best photos here an ask for Praise. The merit of this photo is that it is a scene that I found very interesting. I personally like the content. I could go back on another day who know the weather conditions. What could i had done differently? Maybe zoomed in on the rocks for one photo and then on the tree for a second photo ,taking the sky out of the photo. There are other ways to address this question beside PP answers.
Feb 21, 2012 08:01:59 #
Feb 21, 2012 08:12:42 #
rpavich wrote:
tom,
Were you planning on posting the original?
Were you planning on posting the original?
i agree with rpavich. Please post the original and by checking the (store original) box, so that we could see the full res image, Better yet if the original was shot in raw, it will be a lot easier for us to correct the white balance, remove color fringing, recover details in the shadow, etc, etc.
Feb 21, 2012 08:16:31 #
Tomphoenix wrote:
I believe this photo analysis section is dedicate ... (show quote)
Did you shoot this scene in raw? If not next time shoot in raw. Your camera is capable of shooting raw files. Just a thought.
Feb 21, 2012 10:37:53 #
Tom I did a screen capture of the bottom photo to see what I could do using Photoshop Elements. The solution that worked the best for me is to use the replace color comand, but because there is nothing in those pixels you must first paint in some color it doesn't really matter what color because you are going to replace it but I used a light blue. Then replace it using the replace color command picking a color from the good area and adjusting the fuzziness slider for bet results. You may have to repeat this several times to clean up the border. I also used the clone tool at 50% to clean up along the tree line. I also used the unsharp mask in the opposite way from what you would use it to sharpen to give it more clarity. Amount 25,Radius max, and threshold at 4. then autosharpened. Dave
Tomphoenix wrote:
Taken early morning on a cloudy day. I like the first phot except the Sky is blown out. What should i had done or could i do to darken the sky. Shot with Panasonic fz35 bridge camera.
Feb 21, 2012 10:44:53 #
normanhall wrote:
i took the image and done some hdr toning on it. could not put any more color in the sky. but it can be painted in, but i do not know how to go about doing that. but anyway, here is my rendition i hope you like.
Tomphoenix wrote:
Taken early morning on a cloudy day. I like the first phot except the Sky is blown out. What should i had done or could i do to darken the sky. Shot with Panasonic fz35 bridge camera.
i took the image and done some hdr toning on it. could not put any more color in the sky. but it can be painted in, but i do not know how to go about doing that. but anyway, here is my rendition i hope you like.
Norman and Dave - great efforts to salvage the shot. Thanks!
Feb 21, 2012 10:45:25 #
docrob
Loc: Durango, Colorado
[quote=Tomphoenix]OK so I am out hiking and come across a scene i like ,a scene i may not get back to again in years or ever, weather is not co operating what do you do to make the best of the opportunity? Don ;t take the photo ?[quote=docrob][quote=Tomphoenix]
Ok so your out hiking and you come across a scene you like, and you might never get back, but the light sucks - so what do you do?
No clue.
Here's what I'd do. I'd stop. I'd put stuff down. I'd ask myself: what is it that caught my eye? I'd wonder around looking at the scene from different perspectives all the while asking myself do I like this - how might I convey the feeling/mood it gives me. If i realized that the light was just not right at the time and if the scene was important enough I must just watch the clouds, note the wind direction, the time of day and maybe decide "well I've reached my destination for the day" sit down and wait........or maybe just sit down and you take it all in with eyes, mind, and heart. Absorb the moment and go on.
What do you do?
Ok so your out hiking and you come across a scene you like, and you might never get back, but the light sucks - so what do you do?
No clue.
Here's what I'd do. I'd stop. I'd put stuff down. I'd ask myself: what is it that caught my eye? I'd wonder around looking at the scene from different perspectives all the while asking myself do I like this - how might I convey the feeling/mood it gives me. If i realized that the light was just not right at the time and if the scene was important enough I must just watch the clouds, note the wind direction, the time of day and maybe decide "well I've reached my destination for the day" sit down and wait........or maybe just sit down and you take it all in with eyes, mind, and heart. Absorb the moment and go on.
What do you do?
Feb 21, 2012 10:46:35 #
docrob
Loc: Durango, Colorado
HEART wrote:
quote=normanhall quote=Tomphoenix Taken early mo... (show quote)
Yep, salvaging the shot.....salvaging is what one does after the cargo has sank.....so yes, good analogy
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