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Nov 23, 2014 20:25:53   #
edmcdowell Loc: Bonaire, Georgia
 
JimEaco wrote:
We can split words; agree to disagree...
The FX/DX and "Crop Factor" has always seemed a misleading marketing thing to me and I spent a ton of time trying to wrap my head around it.

A DX Sensor is smaller. it uses the middle of an FX lens and all of a DX lens.
An FX sensor is larger it uses all of the FX lens and all of the DX lens, however it (the FX sensor/body) auto adjusts to DX sensor... (uses the DX equivalent/center) of the sensor.

To me... the crop is perfectly clear. The magnification (Crop factor) is not so much that the sensor made the lens a single millimeter longer... it is simply that the smaller captured image has to be enlarged 1.5 times to fill the same print area.

I contend; you are not gaining focal length you are enlarging the captured image more which produces the perception of a longer lens.
have you ever heard the terms Optical Zoom and Electronic Zoom? (also called in-camera zoom, and a few other catchy terms)

It will be difficult for anyone to convince me that a lens gets longer through the process of enlargement of the image.
The focal length of the lens is constant regardless of the sensor, the difference occurs when the image is output/viewed.

Consider it a fact: that when you enlarge a photo on your computer screen, and crop it, the lens in the photographers bag does not magically become longer.
[LOL] Pixel stretching does not and never will effect focal length.

I am anxious to read the arguments that prove a DX Sensor impacts the focal length of any lens: DX or FX.
We can split words; agree to disagree... br The FX... (show quote)


I would say that it increases the apparent focal length of the lens.

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Nov 23, 2014 20:30:03   #
edmcdowell Loc: Bonaire, Georgia
 
MT Shooter wrote:
PCity, sorry you are getting such conflicting, and confusing answers here.
ALL lenses focal length is stated in 35mm film terms, regardless of format or mount. Period.
No matter what the lens says on it, when mounted on a crop sensor body (any camera with a sensor of smaller size than a frame of 35mm film), then that sensors "crop" factor will have to be added in order to get the equivalent field of view when compared to what that lens will yield on a full frame sensored camera, or a 35mm film camera.
NOTHING is ever done to effect the lens' magnification!!! I cannot stress this enough as so many people misunderstand this. A 200mm lens is ALWAYS a 200mm lens regardless. But a smaller sensor cannot capture the entire image circle projected by that lens, the sensor captures a portion out of the center of that projected image circle and that is where the "crop" comes in. The crop factor is the mathematical multiplier to tell the crop sensor user exactly what lens he or she would need to mount on a full frame camera to get the same image view. In your case, and 200mm lens on your Nikon DX body would need to have its focal length multiplied by 1.5 to determine the same image result if using a full frame camera, that being 300mm.
So if you took a picture of a subject with a 200mm lens on a crop sensor Nikon, and a friend took the same picture of the same subject from the same spot, only used a 300mm lens. The two pictures would look identical.
I hope this clears up some of the confusion and answers your question thoroughly.
PCity, sorry you are getting such conflicting, and... (show quote)


Excellent presentation of the question, Shooter.

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Nov 23, 2014 20:33:18   #
edmcdowell Loc: Bonaire, Georgia
 
OddJobber wrote:
Don't know about other FX bodies but my D800 only does that if I go into the menu and tell it to auto crop if a DX lens is attached.


Don't think you have a choice on the 800 series. When you attach a DX lens, the camera automatically goes to the DX mode.

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Nov 23, 2014 20:42:56   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
edmcdowell wrote:
Don't think you have a choice on the 800 series. When you attach a DX lens, the camera automatically goes to the DX mode.


Unless you change the default. Shooting Menu > Image area > Auto DX crop > On or Off

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Nov 24, 2014 04:17:17   #
Ctrclckws
 
Wonderful all the responses to this question that represent individual understanding of the answer to the question. Hopefully one will help the OP get out and take pictures.

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Nov 24, 2014 12:39:09   #
skywalker0627
 
Did it affect the megapixel of the image when using a dx lens on a fx camera????

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Nov 24, 2014 13:02:34   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
skywalker0627 wrote:
Did it affect the megapixel of the image when using a dx lens on a fx camera????


Yes, the camera will automatically select the DX crop area, which is smaller -> fewer pixels.

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Nov 30, 2014 10:56:31   #
J. R. WEEMS Loc: Winchester, Virginia
 
Ok, reading through all the above, I would ask this question of those more learned than myself. :) Two cameras, one DX one FX - which one would you use a 600mm on (Nikon) DX for the crop factor, or FX for the sensor ?? Seems it might depend on just what was being done at the time?? THANKS!! :)

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Dec 4, 2014 12:28:49   #
J. R. WEEMS Loc: Winchester, Virginia
 
WOuls sure like to hear back on the above question. :)

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Dec 4, 2014 14:02:03   #
The Villages Loc: The Villages, Florida
 
J. R. WEEMS wrote:
WOuls sure like to hear back on the above question. :)


Based on your great portfolio pictures, I thnik we should be asking you the qustion.

I'm not the long lens expert, but I think you answered your own question - Depends on the need.

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