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Nov 22, 2014 09:13:02   #
Jackinthebox Loc: travel the world
 
PrairieSeasons wrote:
You can get some posing ideas by google'ing "Pose heavy people" or something similar. If she's willing to help by posing, the first two things I'd do with her is to have her put her face slightly forward and chin down (no exaggeration - just slight) and then turn so she's facing the camera at about 3/4 full-front rather than straight on.

You might even print out (or show on an iPad) examples like this and ask her to pose that way.

Disclaimer - sample shot is from www.lenaleephotography.com , and I use this to help pose women in single and group shots.
You can get some posing ideas by google'ing "... (show quote)


I was thinking that this is ridiculous but you put some sense into it. Thanks, PrairieSeasons, for showing the 3 shots that explain it so well.

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Nov 22, 2014 09:34:20   #
georgeretired Loc: Manitoba Canada
 
Thanks everyone for their comments. AS the family said to me when I was asked to help and take some pictures, "seems to be the only time all the family gather in one place is at a wedding for funeral". The idea of gathering everyone at the reception after the funeral service was finally changed to having shots at the cemetery only as some American family were caught up in some bad winter weather and could not attend.
Cemetery shots went well as can be expected in -22C/-11F weather and a good wind to boot. Cemetery was a rural location situated on the flat prairie with a spattering of trees and a utility shed with no real protection from the wind. I was able to get some good shots of the piper leading the procession of family and friends over the cold snow cover ground. I had to smile when looking at the people attending in that you couldn't tell how heavy or thin people were as they we all decked out in parkas etc. People formed a tight semi circle around the grave making everyone appear to be a wall of coats and to break the cold wind blowing at the priest. Managed to take 50 shots with a canon 50D and a canon 24-70 lens. My normal outer wear in the winter it a large top coat big enough to carry two lens on my web belt and to sneak the camera under my coat while waiting for another shot.
Thanks again to all that read this post.

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Nov 22, 2014 09:37:24   #
Bear2 Loc: Southeast,, MI
 
I got a little lucky on a high school reunion shot, with a very large but wonderful lady. I positioned the class on a spiral staircase, shot in vertices, with only the head of the large one in the lower right corner. The balance of the class a ending upward and around to the left. Fortunately I had enough light to get the shot.
So we had a larger head lower right without the body.
Hope this helps

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Nov 22, 2014 09:37:57   #
Bear2 Loc: Southeast,, MI
 
I got a little lucky on a high school reunion shot, with a very large but wonderful lady. I positioned the class on a spiral staircase, shot in vertices, with only the head of the large one in the lower right corner. The balance of the class asending upward and around to the left. Fortunately I had enough light to get the shot.
So we had a larger head lower right without the body.
Hope this helps

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Nov 22, 2014 09:58:29   #
ediesaul
 
georgeretired wrote:

Thanks.


I have a suggestion that may not sit well with other Hoggers, but perhaps you may ask if the following would be ok. I have done this with some photos of my friends.

I would pp some of her body outline from the photo to slim her down. I have done this even with sagging chins.

I use Elements 13 and it has a "slim" effect, which I don't like because it seems to elongate everyone in a group photo, not just the person selected.

So, I enlarge the photo and either delete some of the body or clone from whatever is nearest.

I'm not saying take off 100 lbs., but I think you can make her happier.

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Nov 22, 2014 10:44:03   #
skidooman Loc: Minnesota
 
DVJ wrote:
There is a temptation to make a joke about this, but you obviously know better than that.


:thumbup: :thumbup: You are right, making a joke about it wasn't going to help. Thanks.

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Nov 22, 2014 10:44:26   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
Important!

If you use a bench make sure she is in the middle or over one of the supports.



joehel2 wrote:
Definetly use a bladed stance and in group photo use a right to left, short to tall composition. Seated tall people in front and shorter spouses/girlfriends standing behind, if you have chairs/benches.

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Nov 22, 2014 11:05:41   #
cmc65
 
ediesaul wrote:
I have a suggestion that may not sit well with other Hoggers, but perhaps you may ask if the following would be ok. I have done this with some photos of my friends.

I would pp some of her body outline from the photo to slim her down. I have done this even with sagging chins.

I use Elements 13 and it has a "slim" effect, which I don't like because it seems to elongate everyone in a group photo, not just the person selected.

So, I enlarge the photo and either delete some of the body or clone from whatever is nearest.

I'm not saying take off 100 lbs., but I think you can make her happier.
I have a suggestion that may not sit well with oth... (show quote)

I'm smiling at this post because years ago when I first learned a little about photoshop I ALWAYS ran pictures of my parents through a little 'de-wrinkle' session before I showed them their pictures or made a copy for them. My brother in law is a professional photographer so he was a little surprised when they mentioned how much better my photos were from holiday gatherings than his (they were both a little vain)!!Of course they didn't know and luckily my brother in law thought it was funny when I told him the truth.Good thing for me he can keep a secret.

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Nov 22, 2014 16:20:06   #
ligneus
 
I find it best to position them behind the camera.

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Nov 22, 2014 16:44:24   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
georgeretired wrote:
I'm sure many of our members have had this challenge of how to position specific people in group shots.
I've been asked to shoot pictures at the funeral for my sons partners mother. My sons partner is extremely heavy (appx 310 lbs and 5'6"). This lady always stands in front centre of pictures and it becomes the first person you see. I have tried folding her into group shots before but she either sulks and hides in the picture of just walks away. Diplomacy is used but it always fails. This time it's her mother and they want pictures of the piper, a few vets that will come along, and with her family of brothers and their families. Expectations are high for a good set of pictures at the grave site. I've gone through all the jokes and ideas given by other so I though our group may have some ideas.
Thanks.
I'm sure many of our members have had this challen... (show quote)


Set up a chair in the middle for her to sit in.

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Nov 22, 2014 18:52:14   #
Reinaldokool Loc: San Rafael, CA
 
cmc65 wrote:
Well said.

:thumbup: :thumbup:


:thumbup: :thumbup:

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Nov 22, 2014 18:57:52   #
Photocraig
 
georgeretired wrote:
WOW...you sure made a lot of assumptions. The lady involved is not "ok" with her weight and usually avoids a camera. According to her family, the people that asked me to do the pictures and explained the situation, she seems to take a prominent position in a photo shoot just to make others not want to take pictures. I'm am not "uncomfortable with it" and don't know why you would say that. It's a challenge like any other photographer would have.
I turned to the Forum to get advice from other photographers on their experience in various positions in group shoots that may compliment this woman who will be in the picture. I'm sure she is disappointed in pictures she has seen of herself and for that reason just doesn't want to be in pictures. Since it is a sad occasion and the fact that I was able to take a picture two years ago with her in it and was successful in positioning her to everyone's satisfaction including this lady, I was asked again to take the pictures.
I have checked the Webb and various sites for ideas, but I was asking the Forum for their feedback on a technical basis.
WOW...you sure made a lot of assumptions. The lad... (show quote)


There are plenty of people who are NOT photogenic for a boat load of reasons. Kodacolor, for years, made olive skinned beauties look like green monsters. I changed to shooting Fuji and Agfa Portraits and they LOVED me.

But I got them to pose and take (minimal direction) by taking it on the chin for ALL of Photography. "Now, I've got some ideas to help us get the best results." Hopefully she'll be wearing Black or a dark solid color. The simple "point the toe, bend the knee and twist "slightly--Just a 'Little' more jest a smidge..." And "chin down just a touch, there ya go, beautiful." Make it just a code between you tow. Don't say Barbara, turn. Just say toe, knee chin twist. With your digital review she'll see how it works in private while you're setting expectations. Rehearsal, what a concept! Maybe do it for Mom cautiously could help. We're making pictures to remember this last moment ffor Mom or something equally Unctious.

You delivered before. You are her friend forever (beyond other connections). Now go make everybody look good on this sad day. You're a photographer and money or not that you JOB!

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Nov 22, 2014 20:00:47   #
greg vescuso Loc: Ozark,Mo.
 
I have shot a few funerals and what I have found is this is a very emotional time and using a 70-200 has worked good to capture all the emotion of the loved ones who have come to grieve. If you capture the pain of your sons partner grieving the loss of their loved one no body is going to be looking at the pose. I know this doesn't answer your question but I find there are not very many posed shots.

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Nov 22, 2014 20:06:38   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
I learned a while back that when doing posed shots, the photographer has to take charge and issue instructions to the subject(s) for best results.

Tell the subjects here straight out in a strong voice and manner that you will pose them for making them look good. People want to look good in a photograph, and they will follow your instructions, believe me.

The obese lady evidently likes attention. In the past, she may've noticed due to her short stature that others taller hide her in the picture, so now she positions herself in front of the group, where viewers will see her for sure. Tell her you will pose her in front but to one side to balance the picture. This instruction may or may not work.

Good luck.

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