One good reason (Page 3): Are you advocating that the children remain here without their parents or are you advocating deportation of US Citizens? It is NOT my understanding that...

chrisscholbe Loc: Kansas City, MO

pounder35 wrote:

They shouldn't be. Their illegal parents come across the border and pop out a tricycle motor and suddenly the whole damn family are US citizens? Drop a baby in the sand just across the border and OMG!!!!! We are American citizens!!!!! Bullshit. :shock:

Are you advocating that the children remain here without their parents or are you advocating deportation of US Citizens?

It is NOT my understanding that Obamas announcement last night made the parents US citizens. It only allows them to stay in this country.
My understanding is that this is consistent with either laws of executive orders from at least 2 previous conservative Presidents.

Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana

user47602 wrote:

just like any illegal immigrant that comes over here and has a kid... a native American.

There is no such thing as an illegal immigrant. These people are illegal aliens... they do not belong here. Their kids do not belong here. They are not immigrants nor are they native Americans by sneaking across the border to have a baby then claim citizenship. That is not how it is done.

A true immigrant is someone who has permission from the host country to enter from another country legally. Even if they have children while waiting in line to become a citizen, they must still go through the process to become a citizen.

idaholover Loc: Nampa ID

chrisscholbe wrote:

Are you advocating that the children remain here without their parents or are you advocating deportation of US Citizens?

It is NOT my understanding that Obamas announcement last night made the parents US citizens. It only allows them to stay in this country.
My understanding is that this is consistent with either laws of executive orders from at least 2 previous conservative Presidents.

Give me a break! These people put their kid ON TOP of a train and sent them unescorted, 4000 miles north through some of the worst countries in the Western Hemisphere! If any parent in this country did that to their kid they'd be taken away and the parent would go to jail.

Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana

chrisscholbe wrote:

Are you advocating that the children remain here without their parents or are you advocating deportation of US Citizens?

It is NOT my understanding that Obamas announcement last night made the parents US citizens. It only allows them to stay in this country.
My understanding is that this is consistent with either laws of executive orders from at least 2 previous conservative Presidents.

Wrong. They are not US citizens. They are children of illegal aliens.

chrisscholbe Loc: Kansas City, MO

idaholover wrote:

Give me a break! These people put their kid ON TOP of a train and sent them unescorted, 4000 miles north through some of the worst countries in the Western Hemisphere! If any parent in this country did that to their kid they'd be taken away and the parent would go to jail.

Some did, but I wasn't referring to them, sorry for the confusion.

I was referring to the people who came here illegally, years ago, and had children, born in this country, which by definition, makes the children US citizens.

Sorry for the confustion.

chrisscholbe Loc: Kansas City, MO

Bangee5 wrote:

Wrong. They are not US citizens. They are children of illegal aliens.

According to US laws........a person born in the US is a US citizen.

Sorry, if you don't agree..... but,that's the way it is.

Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana

chrisscholbe wrote:

According to US laws........a person born in the US is a US citizen.

Sorry, if you don't agree..... but,that's the way it is.

They are citizens of the country of their parents birth...

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2010/08/30/14th-amendment-doesnt-make-illegal-aliens-children-citizens

http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/detail/exclusive-are-children-born-of-illegal-immigrants-us-citizens

http://www.fosterpc.com/are-the-children-of-illegal-immigrants-citizens/

letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.

Sorry but you are right, that is one law that needs changing. There are homes provided at a costly sum here and in many American cities, where women from all over the world live in and give birth to American Citizens.

chrisscholbe wrote:

According to US laws........a person born in the US is a US citizen.

Sorry, if you don't agree..... but,that's the way it is.

BigBear Loc: Northern CT

idaholover wrote:

The Indians are alive and well with special privileges the rest of us don't have!

Maybe for a small group who got the casinos, but for the rest of us, not so much.

chrisscholbe Loc: Kansas City, MO

Bangee5 wrote:

They are citizens of the country of their parents birth...

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2010/08/30/14th-amendment-doesnt-make-illegal-aliens-children-citizens

http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/detail/exclusive-are-children-born-of-illegal-immigrants-us-citizens

http://www.fosterpc.com/are-the-children-of-illegal-immigrants-citizens/

Contrary to the interpretaion of these articles.

Currently, if you're born in this country, you're a citizen.

pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"

chrisscholbe wrote:

Are you advocating that the children remain here without their parents or are you advocating deportation of US Citizens?

It is NOT my understanding that Obamas announcement last night made the parents US citizens. It only allows them to stay in this country.
My understanding is that this is consistent with either laws of executive orders from at least 2 previous conservative Presidents.

No. I don't consider the children U.S. citizens just because they were given birth here by a criminal. Send the children and the parents back and tell them if they want to come back do it by going through the immigration process according to our laws. It's a slap in the face of the immigrants that went through the process.

pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"

chrisscholbe wrote:

Contrary to the interpretaion of these articles.

Currently, if you're born in this country, you're a citizen.

But the parents aren't unless Obama gets his way. If the parents cared for their kids they would leave and take the kids with them. Then follow legal immigration procedures. Or maybe you could take care of the millions of kids while you wait for the parents to return. This country can't afford to be the world's babysitter. So I'm a cold hearted person. I'm also a realist. When your house is full of the "children citizens" let me know. I'll send a few bucks to help on groceries.

dljen Loc: Central PA

chrisscholbe wrote:

Contrary to the interpretaion of these articles.

Currently, if you're born in this country, you're a citizen.

You're right, Chris.

http://www.irs.gov/Individuals/International-Taxpayers/U.S.-Citizens-by-Birth-or-through-a-U.S.-Citizen-Parent

idaholover Loc: Nampa ID

chrisscholbe wrote:

Some did, but I wasn't referring to them, sorry for the confusion.

I was referring to the people who came here illegally, years ago, and had children, born in this country, which by definition, makes the children US citizens.

Sorry for the confustion.

:thumbup:

chrisscholbe Loc: Kansas City, MO

pounder35 wrote:

No. I don't consider the children U.S. citizens just because they were given birth here by a criminal. Send the children and the parents back and tell them if they want to come back do it by going through the immigration process according to our laws. It's a slap in the face of the immigrants that went through the process.

It doesn't really matter what you consider or don't consider.

Let me know how it works for your conservative buddies when they start advocating deporting US Citizens.