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Nov 15, 2014 12:11:40   #
ka3ciz11 Loc: Maryland
 
Are mirrorless camera's slowly replacing dslr's? Is there an advantage of one over the other?
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Nov 15, 2014 12:18:08   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
I'm still waiting for the price to go down on mirrorless cameras.

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Nov 15, 2014 13:05:51   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
ka3ciz11 wrote:
Are mirrorless camera's slowly replacing dslr's? Is there an advantage of one over the other?
Thanks!

The reports I've seen show very little change over the past few years. I've been expecting mirror-less cameras of various sensor sizes to take over the crop-sensor market, but it just hasn't happened so far.

To get the ball rolling, I'll suggest several advantages of each:

For the DSLR

(1) They are an established technology. Everyone knows what to expect from them, and trusts them on things like focusing on moving objects

(2) Serious established ecology; you can get lenses for a Nikon DSLR mount or Canon DSLR mount from lots of different vendors

(3) People see you holding a DSLR view you as being a serious photographer

(4) Optical viewfinder

(5) Prices start around $400

Advantages for Mirror-less camera

(1) They are smaller

(2) Because of the dimensional facts, you can get an adapter to use almost any legacy lens, especially if you're willing to go completely manual

(3) They don't look like a T-90, so people may be more relaxed around you

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Nov 15, 2014 13:39:52   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
The world is changing.

The resolution and image quality of Electronic View Finders is equal to that of optical view finders with the added benefit of display information that no optical view finder can come close to matching.

And with adaptors, those DSLR lenses that are collecting dust in your camera drawer can be used on that mirrorless camera, ESPECIALLY if it's a Sony... the most established, advanced, and flexible of the mirrorless systems.

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Nov 15, 2014 13:45:23   #
Morning Star Loc: West coast, North of the 49th N.
 
rehess wrote:
Advantages for Mirror-less camera

(1) They are smaller

(2) Because of the dimensional facts, you can get an adapter to use almost any legacy lens, especially if you're willing to go completely manual

(3) They don't look like a T-90, so people may be more relaxed around you


(4) What you see in the viewfinder, is what you get. If you change aperture or exposure while looking through the viewfinder, you'll see the changes happening.

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Nov 15, 2014 13:51:25   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
^^^EXACTLY. :thumbup:

And you apply any effects or filters you see that too.

You also see the results of your exposure, and with some brands (like Sony) you get focus peaking (showing areas in and out of focus) and zebra (showing over exposure).

EVFs are a HUGE advance in photography. People who don't like them just haven't really used them or just don't know the advantages of using them.

But hey... I suppose there are people who just don't want to give up their Brownies either. :lol:

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Nov 15, 2014 14:17:40   #
Shutterbugsailer Loc: Staten Island NY (AKA Cincinnati by the Sea)
 
rehess wrote:
The reports I've seen show very little change over the past few years. I've been expecting mirror-less cameras of various sensor sizes to take over the crop-sensor market, but it just hasn't happened so far.

To get the ball rolling, I'll suggest several advantages of each:

For the DSLR

(1) They are an established technology. Everyone knows what to expect from them, and trusts them on things like focusing on moving objects

(2) Serious established ecology; you can get lenses for a Nikon DSLR mount or Canon DSLR mount from lots of different vendors

(3) People see you holding a DSLR view you as being a serious photographer

(4) Optical viewfinder

(5) Prices start around $400

Advantages for Mirror-less camera

(1) They are smaller

(2) Because of the dimensional facts, you can get an adapter to use almost any legacy lens, especially if you're willing to go completely manual

(3) They don't look like a T-90, so people may be more relaxed around you
The reports I've seen show very little change over... (show quote)


On the whole, I prefer mirrorless technology to DSLR, but the latter has a couple of advantages for outdoor photographers. You can use the optical viewfinder like a telescope with the camera turned off and not worry about draining the battery or overheating internal components. If you like to change lenses in the field, the mirror provides some protection against dirt and dust for the sensor.

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Nov 15, 2014 16:54:02   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
ka3ciz11 wrote:
Are mirrorless camera's slowly replacing dslr's? Is there an advantage of one over the other?
Thanks!


Depends on who you talk to. If you're a birder of fast action photographer, then a traditional DSLR will suit you better. It's not to say that you can't shoot those things with a mirrorless camera, but right now a dslr will do a better job.

For me, I don't do either of those, except for an ocassional BIF. therefore mirrorless has suited me well for the last year, and I don't miss my dslr at all, especially the size and weight.

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Nov 15, 2014 22:01:27   #
Burt Hollen Loc: King of Prussia, Pa
 
One thing I like on the Olympus OMD series is that you can see the depth of field right in the viewfinder as you change F-stops. I converted from 50 years of using DSLR's and pleased that I did.

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Nov 15, 2014 23:54:28   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
Cdouthitt wrote:
Depends on who you talk to. If you're a birder of fast action photographer, then a traditional DSLR will suit you better. It's not to say that you can't shoot those things with a mirrorless camera, but right now a dslr will do a better job.

For me, I don't do either of those, except for an ocassional BIF. therefore mirrorless has suited me well for the last year, and I don't miss my dslr at all, especially the size and weight.


Clint, the Sony SLT cameras do an EXCELLENT job with action photography.

TECHNICALLY speaking, they are mirrorless cameras too you know.

Yeah sure; there is a fixed semi-translucent pellicle mirror that directs about 30% of the light to the autofocus module... but those cameras work EXACTLY like mirrorless cameras do. ;)

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Nov 16, 2014 07:04:37   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
CHOLLY wrote:
Clint, the Sony SLT cameras do an EXCELLENT job with action photography.

TECHNICALLY speaking, they are mirrorless cameras too you know.

Yeah sure; there is a fixed semi-translucent pellicle mirror that directs about 30% of the light to the autofocus module... but those cameras work EXACTLY like mirrorless cameras do. ;)


You're referring to the a77ii and a99? As for form, they're the size and weight of a traditional dslr. None the less, they are great cameras.

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Nov 16, 2014 07:14:22   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
ka3ciz11 wrote:
Are mirrorless camera's slowly replacing dslr's? Is there an advantage of one over the other?
Thanks!

The U. S. is bucking the world trend toward mirrorless. Sales are up 24% world-wide, but down 34% in this country.

http://www.stuckincustoms.com/2013/07/04/sony-nex-review-nikon-vs/

DSLR sales are still at the top of the heap.

http://petapixel.com/2014/02/27/a-look-into-why-dslrs-still-sell-better-than-mirrorless-camera-systems/

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Nov 16, 2014 07:41:18   #
ralphc4176 Loc: Conyers, GA
 
Each take good photos. One advantage of the mirrorless camera is that you can see what you want to shoot on the camera's monitor, something you can't do with a DSLR. But you might not consider that an advantage. Also, mirrorless are smaller and lighter, something you may find beneficial if you carry it often.

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Nov 16, 2014 08:14:43   #
JCGammack Loc: Hayesville, Iowa
 
ka3ciz11 wrote:
Are mirrorless camera's slowly replacing dslr's? Is there an advantage of one over the other?
Thanks!


No they aren't and never will. Each has it's key advantages and weak points. If you want the best of both worlds, invest in both worlds.

Advantage Mirrorless- Size is smaller, Lighter.
Advantage DSLR- Faster , Lens and system flexibility and availability.

This annalists does not include personal preferences or prejudice. Those arguments will go on forever.

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Nov 16, 2014 08:33:05   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
The U. S. is bucking the world trend toward mirrorless. Sales are up 24% world-wide, but down 34% in this country.

http://www.stuckincustoms.com/2013/07/04/sony-nex-review-nikon-vs/

DSLR sales are still at the top of the heap.

http://petapixel.com/2014/02/27/a-look-into-why-dslrs-still-sell-better-than-mirrorless-camera-systems/

For whatever reason, Asians do not seem to value a viewfinder the way we do, and both the Canon EOS-M family and the Pentax Q-family are doing well in Asia.

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