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Nov 15, 2014 06:42:21   #
Mike Blythe Loc: Newcastle UK
 
I am asking for advice on what method is best for calibrating your monitors colours with your printer.
I have read many articles and to be truthful I get confused.
I have looked at Spyder and Colormunki equipment but they look expensive.
I have no problem in buying either if they will do the job but I thought that I would ask you Ladies and Gents what views you had on this.

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Nov 15, 2014 06:49:35   #
tusketwedge Loc: Nova Scotia Canada
 
i have been using colormunki for the last 3 years and it was had great results on lcd monitors. Bought a led and had to buy the new colormunki that does both monitors. It still works great on the lcd but on the led I find that it is too contrasty.

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Nov 15, 2014 06:53:04   #
gmw12 Loc: Indianapolis & Windsor/UK & Montreux/Switzerl
 
From the way you formulate your question it seems you are new to the topic. Color calibration processes are usually described in 200+ pages technical books...And you haven't even mentioned the calibration of your cameras and the different papers you may use...For a first approach I'd recommend to read this tutorial:
http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/color-management-printing.htm

And the spyders or munkies are rather unexpensive for the work they do...

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Nov 15, 2014 07:27:06   #
Mike Blythe Loc: Newcastle UK
 
You are correct, I am new to the topic.
Thanks for the link, it will hep a lot.

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Nov 15, 2014 09:16:17   #
gmw12 Loc: Indianapolis & Windsor/UK & Montreux/Switzerl
 
BTW, I use the Spyder4Pro and am fully happy with the results.

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Nov 16, 2014 08:59:54   #
flyguy Loc: Las Cruces, New Mexico
 
gmw12 wrote:
From the way you formulate your question it seems you are new to the topic. Color calibration processes are usually described in 200+ pages technical books...And you haven't even mentioned the calibration of your cameras and the different papers you may use...For a first approach I'd recommend to read this tutorial:
http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/color-management-printing.htm

And the spiders or munkies are rather unexpensive for the work they do...


I think that this is excellent advice! :thumbup:

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Nov 16, 2014 13:59:15   #
Picdude Loc: Ohio
 
Perhaps I've been misunderstanding on this topic, but it was always my impression that calibrating your monitor and calibrating your printer for color and paper were two separate procedures that are required for proper color management but not really interdependent.

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Nov 16, 2014 14:02:14   #
tusketwedge Loc: Nova Scotia Canada
 
Mike Blythe wrote:
I am asking for advice on what method is best for calibrating your monitors colours with your printer.
I have read many articles and to be truthful I get confused.
I have looked at Spyder and Colormunki equipment but they look expensive.
I have no problem in buying either if they will do the job but I thought that I would ask you Ladies and Gents what views you had on this.


One thing that I think nobody metioned is that your camera pogram that yoour using and your printer should all be set to the same color profile. I myself use RGB as it has a wider color gamut,sRGB will only give you approamitly 65 percent of what RGB will.Have fun.
At my age the easiest way out was I found a printer that was nice enough to come over to my house and set my comp.and moniter to what his is so what I see here I get when he does the printing.

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Nov 16, 2014 14:18:32   #
tusketwedge Loc: Nova Scotia Canada
 
Picdude wrote:
Perhaps I've been misunderstanding on this topic, but it was always my impression that calibrating your monitor and calibrating your printer for color and paper were two separate procedures that are required for proper color management but not really interdependent.


I to am incline to think it's 2 altogether different issue. The color is a profile done with spyder colormunki or others.
Your profile for the paper you use is something that you get from the manufacturer of the medium that your printing on.(So I think and stand to be corrected)
I know that last year did a B&W show locally and use 5 diff. types of Awagami paper and my printer had to get a profile from the company for each paper.

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Nov 17, 2014 12:35:19   #
romanticf16 Loc: Commerce Twp, MI
 
Picdude wrote:
Perhaps I've been misunderstanding on this topic, but it was always my impression that calibrating your monitor and calibrating your printer for color and paper were two separate procedures that are required for proper color management but not really interdependent.


You are correct. You calibrate the monitor to a given Colorspace and Gama(brightness); then you use those settings in your printer to recalibrate it for each combination of ink and paper you use- all under controlled viewing light conditions.

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Nov 17, 2014 12:36:33   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
I use a Color Munki and I like it.
Mike Blythe wrote:
I am asking for advice on what method is best for calibrating your monitors colours with your printer.
I have read many articles and to be truthful I get confused.
I have looked at Spyder and Colormunki equipment but they look expensive.
I have no problem in buying either if they will do the job but I thought that I would ask you Ladies and Gents what views you had on this.

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Nov 17, 2014 19:04:05   #
romanticf16 Loc: Commerce Twp, MI
 
tusketwedge wrote:
I to am incline to think it's 2 altogether different issue. The color is a profile done with spyder colormunki or others.
Your profile for the paper you use is something that you get from the manufacturer of the medium that your printing on.(So I think and stand to be corrected)
I know that last year did a B&W show locally and use 5 diff. types of Awagami paper and my printer had to get a profile from the company for each paper.


Or you create a custom profile for the printer with a spectrophotometer, which the monitor/printer units are.

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Nov 17, 2014 20:35:00   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
tusketwedge wrote:
One thing that I think nobody metioned is that your camera pogram that yoour using and your printer should all be set to the same color profile. I myself use RGB as it has a wider color gamut,sRGB will only give you approamitly 65 percent of what RGB will.Have fun.
At my age the easiest way out was I found a printer that was nice enough to come over to my house and set my comp.and moniter to what his is so what I see here I get when he does the printing.


When you say RGB, you meanAdobe RGB, right?
Does your printer friend make house calls to other states?
Sweet deal!

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Nov 17, 2014 22:01:49   #
tusketwedge Loc: Nova Scotia Canada
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
When you say RGB, you meanAdobe RGB, right?
Does your printer friend make house calls to other states?
Sweet deal!


Hey Newfie ,probably he would if you paid his trip. Be kind of expensive from Halifax N.S canada to Kan.City .Also I have an in with him,I do all his canvas framing.
He noticed that I would have very odd sizes printed and he asked who did my framing and I told him I did with frames that I make myself. Been doing his framing now going on 21/2 years. Just a nice little side money.Pays for my toys.

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Nov 17, 2014 22:45:40   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
tusketwedge wrote:
Hey Newfie ,probably he would if you paid his trip. Be kind of expensive from Halifax N.S canada to Kan.City .Also I have an in with him,I do all his canvas framing.
He noticed that I would have very odd sizes printed and he asked who did my framing and I told him I did with frames that I make myself. Been doing his framing now going on 21/2 years. Just a nice little side money.Pays for my toys.


Nice barter system you have worked out.

I was on my iPhone when I first responded.
Didn't see where you were from.
Oh man! I'd come up there!
One of my bucket list places to visit.
Closer to where I was born.

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